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Post by Gangrel-Brood on Dec 21, 2008 8:24:35 GMT -5
At first I wasn't crazy about it but, one of the other aspects of this that later I absolutely loved was moving Kurt Angle to ECW. The wrestling machine bit fit rather well. I liked Big Show and Hardcore Holly there, too.  |
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Post by flying-shorty on Dec 21, 2008 8:52:14 GMT -5
ONS is/was great because it was a one time thing. the way the wwe tackled ecw as a brand was a huge waste of possibilities and money. I mean it had so many options, but instead they made it into Heat. Had they kept some of the originals and actually made an extreme show. It wud have been great, but there is nothing Extreme about WWE-ECW
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Post by ericbischoff on Dec 21, 2008 9:06:12 GMT -5
They need get originals wrestlers from ECW at every One Night Stand, instead use most of WWE superstars. So we can see One Night Stand more extreme. But now ECW just suck
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2008 9:24:23 GMT -5
ECW is a part of the WW'E' ENTERTAINMENT , for kids. It isnt meant to be hardcore & extreme no more.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Dec 21, 2008 11:50:19 GMT -5
The minute Van Dam was caught was the moment ECW changed, RVD was in for a long title reign I understand, but after he was caught, that was it, bye bye Sabu, bye bye Rob's push, and in the end, Rob himself, bring in Lashely, Test, Holly, bye bye to all of those within 6months, now they have Matt, and I expect him going to SD soon
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Dec 21, 2008 12:11:16 GMT -5
At first, ECW looked like it was going to be almost as the original, but it got ruined like most of people here said. I mean, they lost Sabu & RVD, Big Show needed time off, Benoit's death, Angle left and The Sandman was moved to RAW, Roadkill was sent to OVW or FCW forgot which one, that left us with Dreamer, Richards and Nunzio, and I know, they're good wrestlers, but they're just jobbers in WWE's eyes.
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Post by LtD73 on Dec 21, 2008 12:18:26 GMT -5
Team 3ds fire table spot at ons 05 sucked compared to the fire table spot at bound for glory
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Dec 21, 2008 19:16:46 GMT -5
The minute Van Dam was caught was the moment ECW changed, RVD was in for a long title reign I understand, but after he was caught, that was it, bye bye Sabu, bye bye Rob's push, and in the end, Rob himself, bring in Lashely, Test, Holly, bye bye to all of those within 6months, now they have Matt, and I expect him going to SD soon Nail in the coffin right there. RVD & Sabu were caught with weed then WWE cleaned house. |
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Post by HugoOne on Dec 21, 2008 19:37:15 GMT -5
In all honesty, there was no way it could've stayed like that and coexisted with RAW and SmackDown!. I love the original ECW as much as the next guy--if not more, but I'm glad they did away with it instead of trying to recreate the good days and doing a poor job. ECW has taken on a new life and has given us some of the best the WWE currently has to offer as far as new talent goes (i.e. CM Punk, John Morrison, the Miz, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder [as the Major Brothers], Kelly Kelly, etc.), so I'm actually really happy with the currect ECW. I completely agree with you. It would have been horrible if they tried to keep that aura going, with the original ECW. It was brilliant the first time, and they're incredibly lucky it worked the second, but if they kept going, it would have failed. This way, they can build up-and-coming stars and get them more air time. And since both RAW and SD! have a "talent exchange" with ECW, the new superstars can pop in and out of the two main shows and gain exposure. It's great. They have some fantastic matches too that no one watches. |
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Post by Angel Beast on Dec 21, 2008 20:19:42 GMT -5
The aftermath of December to Dismember is when i lost faith in the new ECW
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Dec 21, 2008 20:57:42 GMT -5
The aftermath of December to Dismember is when i lost faith in the new ECW OH MY BROTHER!!!!! TESTIFY!!!! |
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Post by KMIS™ on Dec 21, 2008 21:51:39 GMT -5
ECW = Guns N' Roses
People complain and bitch about how the old ECW/GNR was so much better, they don't bother acknowledging how great the current version is too.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Dec 21, 2008 21:56:33 GMT -5
ECW = Guns N' Roses People complain and bitch about how the old ECW/GNR was so much better, they don't bother acknowledging how great the current version is too. Nice analogy except I don't think the new ECW is all that great. |
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Post by wwfhasbrowwf on Dec 21, 2008 23:53:04 GMT -5
i hate how ecw is just the exact same thing now as raw and smackdown except without the stars. what's the point of it having it's own brand? Exactly. All you guys hype these jobbers but they have no talent. Yeah I don't want Cena and Batista (or even Triple H) with the belts, I want Jericho, Jeff Hardy, HBK, Edge, or even Orton or Taker with the belts, but these jobbers are not talents just cause you guys are so up to hype the underdogs and hate gimmicks. They have no wrestling talent, no talent at all. Shelton Benjamon, now yes, HE has talent. But the other guys you guys hype are just torment. CM Punk is decient , but he is not a world title guy. He's an IC guy, and he's no where near Shelton Benjamon. The new ECW is crap. It doesn't even have Joey Styles and Sandman,RVD, Sabu, Raven aren't even working in any company (tna or wwe) and besides HBK and Edge they're the biggest talents in wrestling (alongside jeff hardy and christian and kurt angle) why the he|| do they not have jobs? Get them in the ecw on sci fi along with joey styles or cancel the show, the show is just a joke. Smackdown is pretty bad too with no talents, but ECW is even worse. I wish there was no brands, TNA was sold to WWE and they only kept the TNA NWA title, WWE and World title as no other belts mean anything to someone winning it (does it really matter if someone wins the IC or tag belts for their career, after the attitude era it means nothing?) and we had all the talents under one roof and they fired all these jobbers that you people hype. Keep all the X Division guys. keep cm punk. keep shelton benjamon. but these $hit guys like mvp, John Morrison, the Miz, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Curt Hawkins , Zack Ryder, and all the others need to be fired . and theres like 20 others. which includes great khali, cryme tyme, etc and you people hype these guys!!!!!!!!!! Where are the ecw originals? they arent working for any promotion and neither is joey styles? its an absoloute f-ing joke!!!! And you people complain about john cena being champ? (which is really bad, but look at how poorly wrestling is being run. we have a great khali kiss cam, festus and jesse or whatever do the most disgusting things, and all they dont have the best talents in wrestling hired, hbk whos the best in wrestling never wins anything, edge is the only guy who's used anywhere near right as they do give him the belt, but he is with a fat 500lb vickie guerrero... what is the people who are running wrestling doing??!!?!?!?!?! what kind of sick mind wants to see a 5,000lb nagging house wife vickie guerrero mmarried to the best talent and rueining edge??? i mean wrestling is ran so poor its not even funny and complaing about cena being champ is the last thing that should be complained about even though he shouldn't always be champ. but batista is even worse. he has less talent, cena actually does sell, and they give him the title almost as much.. if you give cena the belt atleast keep it off triple h and batista |
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Post by MX5 on Dec 22, 2008 2:09:31 GMT -5
I can kinda agree with this, where as I don't think it should have been all out PPV style like ECW ONS 1/2, but it should be something different from RAW and Smackdown, besides being developmental. I actually popped in ONS 2 earlier today and I had forgot how good it was. FBI vs. Crazy/Tajiri, Rey/Sabu, Cena/RVD. All amazing matches.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Dec 22, 2008 2:22:36 GMT -5
i hate how ecw is just the exact same thing now as raw and smackdown except without the stars. what's the point of it having it's own brand? Exactly. All you guys hype these jobbers but they have no talent. Yeah I don't want Cena and Batista (or even Triple H) with the belts, I want Jericho, Jeff Hardy, HBK, Edge, or even Orton or Taker with the belts, but these jobbers are not talents just cause you guys are so up to hype the underdogs and hate gimmicks. They have no wrestling talent, no talent at all. Shelton Benjamon, now yes, HE has talent. But the other guys you guys hype are just torment. CM Punk is decient , but he is not a world title guy. He's an IC guy, and he's no where near Shelton Benjamon. The new ECW is crap. It doesn't even have Joey Styles and Sandman,RVD, Sabu, Raven aren't even working in any company (tna or wwe) and besides HBK and Edge they're the biggest talents in wrestling (alongside jeff hardy and christian and kurt angle) why the he|| do they not have jobs? Get them in the ecw on sci fi along with joey styles or cancel the show, the show is just a joke. Smackdown is pretty bad too with no talents, but ECW is even worse. I wish there was no brands, TNA was sold to WWE and they only kept the TNA NWA title, WWE and World title as no other belts mean anything to someone winning it (does it really matter if someone wins the IC or tag belts for their career, after the attitude era it means nothing?) and we had all the talents under one roof and they fired all these jobbers that you people hype. Keep all the X Division guys. keep cm punk. keep shelton benjamon. but these $hit guys like mvp, John Morrison, the Miz, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, Curt Hawkins , Zack Ryder, and all the others need to be fired . and theres like 20 others. which includes great khali, cryme tyme, etc and you people hype these guys!!!!!!!!!! Where are the ecw originals? they arent working for any promotion and neither is joey styles? its an absoloute f-ing joke!!!! And you people complain about john cena being champ? (which is really bad, but look at how poorly wrestling is being run. we have a great khali kiss cam, festus and jesse or whatever do the most disgusting things, and all they dont have the best talents in wrestling hired, hbk whos the best in wrestling never wins anything, edge is the only guy who's used anywhere near right as they do give him the belt, but he is with a fat 500lb vickie guerrero... what is the people who are running wrestling doing??!!?!?!?!?! what kind of sick mind wants to see a 5,000lb nagging house wife vickie guerrero mmarried to the best talent and rueining edge??? i mean wrestling is ran so poor its not even funny and complaing about cena being champ is the last thing that should be complained about even though he shouldn't always be champ. but batista is even worse. he has less talent, cena actually does sell, and they give him the title almost as much.. if you give cena the belt atleast keep it off triple h and batista good points on the generic wrestlers in particular. |
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Post by robby.blade on Dec 22, 2008 2:30:15 GMT -5
The first ONS would have been perfect if they wouldn't have done the WWE Invasion angle of it. The second was pretty cool too though, as it was pretty much all WWE Vs. ECW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2008 4:43:26 GMT -5
The first ONS would have been perfect if they wouldn't have done the WWE Invasion angle of it. The second was pretty cool too though, as it was pretty much all WWE Vs. ECW. I actually enjoyed it , and if i was to watch the dvd again i would STILL enjoy it. Only thing tho is that they kinda messed up ONS 06 by doing the same thing , but only this time ECW were the invaders. |
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Post by rockbottom42385 on Dec 22, 2008 11:10:30 GMT -5
I loved the '05 edition. Every match was solid and I loved the brawl at the end. When Austin's music hits the crowd goes nuts. Plus, Awesome-Tanaka was greatness. Every match had something to it, and I thought Rey-Psicosis was good, they shouldn't just be jumping around. ECW fans do get on my nerves sometimes, a sleeper is put on when it is part of a standard match. Benoit-Guerrero was the only match I would consider weak.
I HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE '06. I know this whole site loves it, but I couldn't stand it the two main events were great matches, I just hated the outcome of the title match. BS having Paul Heyman count. Cena is my favorite, I was cursing at the screen, I know it's all scripted but come on, you guys must lose it sometimes, even though it is scripted. The only time I didn't like RVD was when he was champ, he should have won in at No Mercy '01.
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Post by fdamage: Elite Trader on Dec 22, 2008 18:19:56 GMT -5
If the WWE put on shows like ONS05 and 06 every week, we'd soon tire of them. How? you ask? Well it'd get to a point where the epic shows became a weekly staple and after a while we'd get sick of it and crave the brand do something new. Eg. If they did a flaming table spot every week for 2 months, we'd get sick of it. True but it doesn't have to be that either. ONS was well scripted. God I miss Heyman. |
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