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Post by Dekabreak on Dec 31, 2008 19:06:31 GMT -5
Although, it won't happen, because of the retards at creative, I think it is a great idea turning him into a heel. He was actually awesome during his heel days on SmackDown!, and actually wrestled better.
What are your thoughts/suggestions/opinions/etc.?
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Post by team-X-treme on Dec 31, 2008 19:14:04 GMT -5
I think John Cena should turn heel, then Chris Jericho turning back to a clean superstar.  |
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Post by bigvanshefer on Dec 31, 2008 19:18:14 GMT -5
Cena turning heel left the building a LONG time ago, as much as I hate to say it.
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Post by Deadshot on Dec 31, 2008 19:18:28 GMT -5
He doesn't have to be heel to be decent. Just stop with all the crap that caters to 8 year olds...
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Post by jeffhardyrules on Dec 31, 2008 19:47:33 GMT -5
It would be awesome if he went back to his " heel rapper" gimmick.But I doubt it will happen though.I hate his current "the champ" and crap gimmick.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 31, 2008 20:12:16 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, WWE creative is intellectually- disabled because they won't turn someone who makes them a ton of money heel, and because they don't want to please the smarks who are never happy no matter what anyway? I understand your frustration with them not turning him heel, but don't say they're intellectually- disabled, you have to look at it from their perspective. Put yourself in their shoes, just for a second. Here's this top face main event wrestler that sells a ton of if not the most merchandise and makes you a lot of money by selling this merchandise, now you realize that turning him heel his merchandise would not sell so much, therefore you don't make as much money. Now the only people that would really benefit from John Cena turning heel would be the IWC and the smarks that would just find something else to complain about anyway. Creative wouldn't benefit because they would lose money, Cena's fans which are in fact mostly kids (and females) wouldn't benefit because they would lose their "hero" and these are the fans that relatively don't constantly complain, they go to the shows, they watch it on TV and they enjoy it for what it is. Now if you were creative (or Vince) what would you do? Make as much money as possible from one of their top cash cows and please the good majority of WWE fans that enjoy their product and don't complain? Or, lose money and please a small percentage of WWE fans that will probably just find something else to complain about and are never happy anyway? Me, personally I don't care if Cena is a face or heel I still don't like him and he annoys the hell out of me and I don't find him entertaining at all, but he appeals to a good amount of the fans so what can I do? Complain over something so trivial or just be like whatever. IMO John Cena is nothing but a fad anyway and when his popularity starts to die down (which it will) then he will most likely turn heel, until then Cena will be a face and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Post by Dekabreak on Dec 31, 2008 20:17:43 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, WWE creative is intellectually- disabled because they won't turn someone who makes them a ton of money heel, and because they don't want to please the smarks who are never happy no matter what anyway? I understand your frustration with them not turning him heel, but don't say they're intellectually- disabled, you have to look at it from their perspective. Put yourself in their shoes, just for a second. Here's this top face main event wrestler that sells a ton of if not the most merchandise and makes you a lot of money by selling this merchandise, now you realize that turning him heel his merchandise would not sell so much, therefore you don't make as much money. Now the only people that would really benefit from John Cena turning heel would be the IWC and the smarks that would just find something else to complain about anyway. Creative wouldn't benefit because they would lose money, Cena's fans which are in fact mostly kids (and females) wouldn't benefit because they would lose their "hero" and these are the fans that relatively don't constantly complain, they go to the shows, they watch it on TV and they enjoy it for what it is. Now if you were creative (or Vince) what would you do? Make as much money as possible from one of their top cash cows and please the good majority of WWE fans? Or, lose money and please a small percentage of WWE fans that will probably just find something else to complain about? Me, personally I don't care if Cena is a face or heel I still don't like him and he annoys the hell out of me and I don't find him entertaining at all, but he appeals to a good amount of the fans so what can I do? Complain over something so trivial or just be like whatever. IMO John Cena is nothing but a fad anyway and when his popularity starts to die down (which it will) then he will most likely turn heel, until then Cena will be a face and there's nothing we can do about it. Stone Cold. Hogan. The Rock. |
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Post by CMC on Dec 31, 2008 20:23:19 GMT -5
if they turn cena heel then tehy lose theire biggest income on merchndise
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 31, 2008 20:33:55 GMT -5
So let me get this straight, WWE creative is intellectually- disabled because they won't turn someone who makes them a ton of money heel, and because they don't want to please the smarks who are never happy no matter what anyway? I understand your frustration with them not turning him heel, but don't say they're intellectually- disabled, you have to look at it from their perspective. Put yourself in their shoes, just for a second. Here's this top face main event wrestler that sells a ton of if not the most merchandise and makes you a lot of money by selling this merchandise, now you realize that turning him heel his merchandise would not sell so much, therefore you don't make as much money. Now the only people that would really benefit from John Cena turning heel would be the IWC and the smarks that would just find something else to complain about anyway. Creative wouldn't benefit because they would lose money, Cena's fans which are in fact mostly kids (and females) wouldn't benefit because they would lose their "hero" and these are the fans that relatively don't constantly complain, they go to the shows, they watch it on TV and they enjoy it for what it is. Now if you were creative (or Vince) what would you do? Make as much money as possible from one of their top cash cows and please the good majority of WWE fans? Or, lose money and please a small percentage of WWE fans that will probably just find something else to complain about? Me, personally I don't care if Cena is a face or heel I still don't like him and he annoys the hell out of me and I don't find him entertaining at all, but he appeals to a good amount of the fans so what can I do? Complain over something so trivial or just be like whatever. IMO John Cena is nothing but a fad anyway and when his popularity starts to die down (which it will) then he will most likely turn heel, until then Cena will be a face and there's nothing we can do about it. Stone Cold. Hogan. The Rock. Hulk Hogan didn't turn heel in the WWE it was WCW that turned him heel, he was never a heel in the WWE until he returned years later and it didn't really last that long I don't think. As for Stone Cold and The Rock, the PG-13 rated Attitude Era was in full force so a lot of things were mixed up a bit. And since the product is now PG things are similar to when Hulk Hogan was popular, and although I despise comparing current wrestlers to older ones I do admit that if there are any comparisons to be made John Cena would be the current Hulk Hogan. |
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Post by Dekabreak on Dec 31, 2008 20:49:45 GMT -5
Stone Cold. Hogan. The Rock. Hulk Hogan didn't turn heel in the WWE it was WCW that turned him heel, he was never a heel in the WWE until he returned years later and it didn't really last that long I don't think. Hulkamania dude. It was universal. I do see your point though. Oh also, enjoy your ban CMC. |
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Post by markallenkellner on Dec 31, 2008 20:53:35 GMT -5
I thought he was great as a heel. He's not great, but he's not as bad as everyone makes him out to be.
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Post by Chicago on Dec 31, 2008 20:56:30 GMT -5
Turning heel...didn't do wonders for Austin and it definitely hurt his career more than it did help or rejuvenate.
You may not be able to tolerate Cena as a face, but the majority of WWE's fans do and wouldn't have him any other way. Cena turning heel right now, or any time soon, would make zero sense and would be a terrible move on WWE's part.
I'm by no means a fan of Cena, but the fact is that he makes the company loads of money as a face and, as the old saying goes, if it ain't broke, why fix it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2008 21:47:02 GMT -5
Although I would love to see a heel John Cena, it will never happen, not because of the so called retards on the creative team, but because the fans wont allow it. He is too much a face right now, that if he would turn heel, the fans wouldn't buy it. Also, he is a big money maker for the business, that it could be terrible for WWE and ratings would drop. It would be a terrible move.
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Post by The Future on Dec 31, 2008 21:49:05 GMT -5
I think you got my hopes up with this topic title.
Like it was confirmed to happen.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Dec 31, 2008 21:57:02 GMT -5
Turning him heel would be fun to watch, but WWE makes so much money off him from children, it just simply wouldnt be worth it for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 0:09:05 GMT -5
Don't worry, it will happen eventually...I never thought Hogan or Austin would turn heel after being the loved face for so long and they went on to be two of the greatest heels ever following there face runs. I would love for him to just turn on the crowd one night and rip them new bungholes.
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Post by instant classic on Jan 1, 2009 0:34:27 GMT -5
he needs to go back to his Word Life gimmick...
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Post by Dekabreak on Jan 1, 2009 0:38:33 GMT -5
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Post by Gussy on Jan 1, 2009 2:12:05 GMT -5
Cena sells to much merchandise. Most of it bought by little girls and boys and even some teens. If cena turns heel, no kids will buy merchandise thus sales for wwe go down.
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Post by Hollywood QJD on Jan 1, 2009 2:32:03 GMT -5
DAMN YOU! the tile mislead me....  |
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