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Post by Kyzer on Mar 22, 2008 2:33:23 GMT -5
What is the point of continuing this when Yukio doesn't even seem to give a ****? So we don't have to. No, seriously. Why not just cancel the whole thing? It would be a waste of yours and the other owner's time and it is a waste of the rpers' time since yukio doesn't give a and since this crap doesn't have any kind of crediblity left.
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Post by Swarm on Mar 22, 2008 6:52:37 GMT -5
So we don't have to. No, seriously. Why not just cancel the whole thing? It would be a waste of yours and the other owner's time and it is a waste of the rpers' time since yukio doesn't give a and since this **** doesn't have any kind of crediblity left. Well, there's enough guys on here who came up on House Show and have a sentimental connection to it. I'm making it a point as owner to not come in here and crap on everything the guys before me have done, whether I agree with it or not. So with that, I didn't want to just kill the house show before 50 just because I could. More importantly, we needed time to get the WFWF back together. Now that we have the WFWF rolling, we can get the DC going much smoother than if we had done both immediately.
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Post by recklessmatten on Mar 22, 2008 7:26:12 GMT -5
So we don't have to. No, seriously. Why not just cancel the whole thing? It would be a waste of yours and the other owner's time and it is a waste of the rpers' time since yukio doesn't give a and since this **** doesn't have any kind of crediblity left. They are many guys, myself included, that will disagree with you on the fact that its a waste of time. If you look at the National Title picture, most if not all are HS Guys from the X Breed Era. The HS does have credibility and its with every guy that has been through the HS and are where they are at this point in the WFWF. And its not a waste of time at all. HS's were a great way to develop a character, a good style of RP and for owners to pick out the best of the bunch. I was picked out when i was told i was ready. If i had never been in the HS i would probably not be the RPer that I am today. You might not realize that the HS meant something to people like me, because you were not apart of it at the time when we were. You may hate it, but thats your opinion. My opinion and probably more peoples as well, is that the HS was useful and a great idea. The best time to be in the HS was the X Breed Era as that was the time HS was hot. Enough Said -Reckless-
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 22, 2008 7:37:27 GMT -5
Why not just cancel the whole thing? It would be a waste of yours and the other owner's time and it is a waste of the rpers' time since yukio doesn't give a and since this **** doesn't have any kind of crediblity left. Well, there's enough guys on here who came up on House Show and have a sentimental connection to it. I'm making it a point as owner to not come in here and **** on everything the guys before me have done, whether I agree with it or not. So with that, I didn't want to just kill the house show before 50 just because I could. More importantly, we needed time to get the WFWF back together. Now that we have the WFWF rolling, we can get the DC going much smoother than if we had done both immediately. Was that a shot at Drakz and myself? Why not just cancel the whole thing? It would be a waste of yours and the other owner's time and it is a waste of the rpers' time since yukio doesn't give a and since this **** doesn't have any kind of crediblity left. They are many guys, myself included, that will disagree with you on the fact that its a waste of time. If you look at the National Title picture, most if not all are HS Guys from the X Breed Era. The HS does have credibility and its with every guy that has been through the HS and are where they are at this point in the WFWF. And its not a waste of time at all. HS's were a great way to develop a character, a good style of RP and for owners to pick out the best of the bunch. I was picked out when i was told i was ready. If i had never been in the HS i would probably not be the RPer that I am today. You might not realize that the HS meant something to people like me, because you were not apart of it at the time when we were. You may hate it, but thats your opinion. My opinion and probably more peoples as well, is that the HS was useful and a great idea. The best time to be in the HS was the X Breed Era as that was the time HS was hot. Enough Said -Reckless- But the thing is, you all aren't on the House shows anymore so what does it matter if the these last two shows happen or not? My point is, why waste time, when it is obvious that no one cares enough to rp other than Chaemo and Shields? Why book a card for no apparent reason and waste people's time? Look at HS 48, 2 people rped, what does that tell you? That the house show circuit at the moment is pointless, and people are wasting their time. And for the record, I am the one who turned the House Shows into the training ground they became today. I was the one who got Obo to become the mod and train people. I was on the first house show. I never mentioned I hated it and I never said anything negative about it in regards to its past. I merely why do it if no one is caring at this moment here and now. Read what I write and know what you are talking about before you respond with a profoundly intellectually- disabled answer.
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Post by Swarm on Mar 22, 2008 7:43:04 GMT -5
Now let's keep this civil guys.
Not trying to halt the discussion, just remember to keep it on topic and to refrain from flaming.
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 22, 2008 7:45:33 GMT -5
Now let's keep this civil guys. Not trying to halt the discussion, just remember to keep it on topic and to refrain from flaming. Whose flaming? I am always civil. Just like my hero Mr. Showtime. ;D
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Post by Swarm on Mar 22, 2008 7:46:11 GMT -5
Now let's keep this civil guys. Not trying to halt the discussion, just remember to keep it on topic and to refrain from flaming. Whose flaming? I am always civil. Just like my hero Mr. Showtime. ;D I appreciate flattery. Continue.
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 22, 2008 7:59:33 GMT -5
Whose flaming? I am always civil. Just like my hero Mr. Showtime. ;D I appreciate flattery. Continue. My ego can't take giving out anymore more.
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Post by sonstuds on Mar 22, 2008 11:19:44 GMT -5
And its not a waste of time at all. HS's were a great way to develop a character, a good style of RP and for owners to pick out the best of the bunch. I was picked out when i was told i was ready. If i had never been in the HS i would probably not be the RPer that I am today. 1. Guys were on the HS for like 3-4 months. If RPers are still in a developmental side-forum for 3+ months I have to really begin to question how effective it is. 2. People would be booked on the HS and Loaded/FDS. If that's the case then what's the point? That's why I'm confused about your "I was picked out when I was told I was ready". You were always on the main show anyways. 3. It wasn't a great way to improve. The emphasis was never on how to improve here, it was about storylines, titles, and new matches. The people who would end up giving advice and replying to RPs were fellow HS guys and Burton and Thunder. 4. The fact that someone like Turdler left because he was forced to be on the HS pretty much tells the story of how trivial it became. I've read the RPs from just about every HS guy who was either on the main show or was moved up. Honestly, a lot of those people are putting out the same type of RPs with the same problems from when they were in the HS. Again, have to question how effective it ever actually was.
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Post by Thunder on Mar 22, 2008 11:34:53 GMT -5
And its not a waste of time at all. HS's were a great way to develop a character, a good style of RP and for owners to pick out the best of the bunch. I was picked out when i was told i was ready. If i had never been in the HS i would probably not be the RPer that I am today. 1. Guys were on the HS for like 3-4 months. If RPers are still in a developmental side-forum for 3+ months I have to really begin to question how effective it is. 2. People would be booked on the HS and Loaded/FDS. If that's the case then what's the point? That's why I'm confused about your "I was picked out when I was told I was ready". You were always on the main show anyways. 3. It wasn't a great way to improve. The emphasis was never on how to improve here, it was about storylines, titles, and new matches. The people who would end up giving advice and replying to RPs were fellow HS guys and Burton and Thunder. 4. The fact that someone like Turdler left because he was forced to be on the HS pretty much tells the story of how trivial it became. I've read the RPs from just about every HS guy who was either on the main show or was moved up. Honestly, a lot of those people are putting out the same type of RPs with the same problems from when they were in the HS. Again, have to question how effective it ever actually was. E just explained how crapty the HS has been right here. If you were there to improve, then why is that Yukio never once replied to any RP? How are you improving when the owner can't even give you feedback? Really good guys were stuck down in HS forever doing nothing while some of the worst people were moving up. There's a reason why so many guys haven't improved at all over the last several months. The HS is part of it. No one improved here. All they did was get booked twice a week doing the same RP over and over. Yukio wouldn't so much as give the guys the time of day, so they haven't improved the least. Some of you won't like to hear that, but the fact is almost everyone that came out of HS is doing exactly the same thing they've always done. And when nobody on the HS improves because of how its run then it starts to mean jack crap. All these HS alumni or whatever are the same as when they came in. And in most cases, they stayed in far too long anyway. Want proof? Months back I joined under a new character as sort of a test of the system. I got booked and RPed for a little bit, but Yukio didn't say anything to me. No ways to improve, nothing. I just gave up with that knowing I'd be in the same spot forever. Basically, I was proven right. In conclusion, the HS sucked once Yukio took over.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Mar 22, 2008 14:58:44 GMT -5
Who was your test character Thunder? Me, I handled Ayn Guish. And I put out a decent RP, and was jobbed out to the Queen of incoherence Kagura Himecho, who knows my girlfriend in real life. SHE was shocked that she beat me, even though she did not know it was me at the time.
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Post by sonstuds on Mar 22, 2008 15:05:34 GMT -5
Who was your test character Thunder? Me, I handled Ayn Guish. And I put out a decent RP, and was jobbed out to the Queen of incoherence Kagura Himecho, who knows my girlfriend in real life. SHE was shocked that she beat me, even though she did not know it was me at the time. He was Aaron Hamilton (I think?). And man, there were so many wacky decisions in the HS in terms of calling matches that you could barely count. Anything not involving JV or Deville was pretty much a toss up. I remember there was a Kraig vs. Napoleon match that somehow Napoleon won despite the fact it was intentional incoherent and had every wrong thing to do in a RP. At least the Kraig RP had good spelling. And speaking of, Kat Hamilton is the perfect example why the HS never worked. She was better than 85% (random number) of the HS and was stuck on it for no reason. Is anyone honestly gonna make the case that she wasn't "ready" to be taken off?
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Post by Thunder on Mar 22, 2008 16:00:07 GMT -5
Who was your test character Thunder? Me, I handled Ayn Guish. And I put out a decent RP, and was jobbed out to the Queen of incoherence Kagura Himecho, who knows my girlfriend in real life. SHE was shocked that she beat me, even though she did not know it was me at the time. He was Aaron Hamilton (I think?). And man, there were so many wacky decisions in the HS in terms of calling matches that you could barely count. Anything not involving JV or Deville was pretty much a toss up. I remember there was a Kraig vs. Napoleon match that somehow Napoleon won despite the fact it was intentional incoherent and had every wrong thing to do in a RP. At least the Kraig RP had good spelling. And speaking of, Kat Hamilton is the perfect example why the HS never worked. She was better than 85% (random number) of the HS and was stuck on it for no reason. Is anyone honestly gonna make the case that she wasn't "ready" to be taken off? Yeah, I was Aaron Hamilton.
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Mar 22, 2008 16:00:54 GMT -5
This can get locked now.
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Post by Thunder on Mar 22, 2008 16:08:25 GMT -5
As the discussion here interests me, I'm reluctant to lock it.
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Post by Swarm on Mar 22, 2008 16:12:59 GMT -5
I agree. But as I said before, keep it civil ya'll.
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Post by Drakz on Mar 26, 2008 11:50:29 GMT -5
Proof that this place isn't here to help people improve is my last match. I RPed and didn't get a single response to my RP not that I'm bothered but I think this shows that no one from the main show ventures in here to help the new people
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Post by sonstuds on Mar 26, 2008 12:51:20 GMT -5
Proof that this place isn't here to help people improve is my last match. I RPed and didn't get a single response to my RP not that I'm bothered but I think this shows that no one from the main show ventures in here to help the new people I won't deny that. I'll reply when it becomes my jurisdiction.
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