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Post by Thunder on Jan 24, 2009 11:52:20 GMT -5
I thought 2 was the limit from a long time ago, but I looked again and there's nothing listed. Still, posting seven RPs would probably get your opponent pissed off.
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Jan 24, 2009 12:00:36 GMT -5
I thought 2 was the limit from a long time ago, but I looked again and there's nothing listed. Still, posting seven RPs would probably get your opponent pissed off. I remember a time when Crazy Shane did like 8 rps for one match. I also remember a time when the maximum was 4, then switched to 2 and I support the 2 rp max rule. |
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Post by Thunder on Jan 24, 2009 12:11:24 GMT -5
But getting back to what Al said, it's true that we've all got lives that preve nt us from doing 463263 RPs every week. I'm in college, so I've got classes four days out of the week and then i work the days I don't. Factor in a semblance of a personal life and that's not much time.
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Post by Rated R on Jan 24, 2009 13:35:25 GMT -5
One thing that struck me is that the RP's here are messy. Really messy. I've never really liked the principle of having each person start a whole new thread to RP with. I just find it a little more difficult to follow than having a dedicated RP thread per show, in which everyone posts their RP's. This helps two things: 1.) Your E-Fed's forum stays a helluva lot neater. 2.) It encourages people to read each other's promos more. It helps everyone keep in touch with what's going on and thus... encourages responses. I just see a lot more togetherness in a fed this way. I cant imagine anything worse than having one thread for everybody's roleplays. Not only does it make it harder for people to keep up with individual roleplays (I know for a fact that some people read their opponents roleplay before anybody elses), it makes it harder for roleplayers to keep track of who is reviewing their roleplay. It also makes it difficult for myself and Thunder when deciding upon winners, since it would make things a hell of alot harder to compare two roleplays. Also, if you were to do this it would leave your main forum free to be a proper OOC section rather than having a single thread for that purpose, which I have to be honest I found weird. I don't know if you've noticed, but theres not a great deal of out of character talk around here. We get enough to warrant a single thread, but not enough to hope it will fill the majority of the board. Honestly what are we talking here, an RP limit of 2 per show? And most people only get up 1? 1 promo per show. If you're having to put extensions on your deadlines just to get people to write 1 promo, you have to take a look at the way things are being organised. First, theres no limit on the number of roleplays that can be written, people can post as however many they need to per show (to a sensible degree of course), but you fail to think about this being a hobby for everyone who does it. Nobody roleplays as a career. Things such as school, work, girlfriends/ boyfriends, social lives etc. mean most people only have enough time to sit down and work on one roleplay per show. I have classes throughout the week, as well as holding down two jobs, a girlfriend and other friends. Thats the same for alot of people, so I dont see the problem with just writing one roleplay per show. On another note, I'm hoping to get results up tomorrow. I'm just waiting on two things before I do. |
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Post by hyde on Jan 24, 2009 16:33:33 GMT -5
I havew to imagine you have nothing even closely resembling a life outside of your front door. Why? People have work, school, friends, family, girlfriends, boyfriends and hobbies that have nothing to do with this e-fed. Okay. At the end of the day, this is just an e-fed. It's a bunch of people writing fake promos that never happened about a character that doesn't exist with the intention of defeating another promo that never happened about a character that doesn't exist. I think in the grand scheme of things, real life deserves a little more priority. So let me see if I understand your logic; me raising the question of why you guys are having to extend deadlines translates to demanding the complete abandonment of real life and suggesting the utter dedication of your souls to fake internet wrestling? Okay, so this is a fed full of globe trotting lion tamers that simply can't squeeze in more than 1 rp a show. (BTW I find it interesting how there's never a middle ground between "1 promo" and "345213 promos" when these discussions come up.) And me with my clear calendar, apart from my dedicated weight training, my college work as I look towards University this year, my job and my friends, I have all the time in the World to enjoy this as a recreational thing. I apologise in that respect for not seeing it as a chore to play this game. All I'm saying is that if people aren't managing to work to the guidelines why not redifine the guidelines. If a show that should be out in one week takes two why not just set the date for two weeks in the first place. EDIT - By the way, I'm NOT trying to sound like a dick here. It's just that my early impression is that some of you guys are finding this fed to be more like hard work than a game you want to play. If I'm way off? I'll keep it shut. I'm only talking because I want to be part of this fed anyway. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 24, 2009 16:51:59 GMT -5
In my opinion, you should really only write a second RP if you think it will be/is better that the first. Results should be great.  |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 24, 2009 17:05:08 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm new here, in fact so new I haven't even been booked yet but so far I'm seeing a lot of talk about no showing and RP extensions due to no showing... if I can offer a few thoughts in that respect because I've been fedding for several years and seen a lot of different style of fed maybe I could help in some way. One thing that struck me is that the RP's here are messy. Really messy. I've never really liked the principle of having each person start a whole new thread to RP with. I just find it a little more difficult to follow than having a dedicated RP thread per show, in which everyone posts their RP's. This helps two things: 1.) Your E-Fed's forum stays a helluva lot neater. 2.) It encourages people to read each other's promos more. It helps everyone keep in touch with what's going on and thus... encourages responses. I just see a lot more togetherness in a fed this way. Also, if you were to do this it would leave your main forum free to be a proper OOC section rather than having a single thread for that purpose, which I have to be honest I found weird. On the subject of a double no show, it depends entirely on the willingness of your match writers. If no one's going to put up their hand and write a kick ass double DQ, then scrap the match. If no one wants to write it then why waste energy even talking about it. Honestly what are we talking here, an RP limit of 2 per show? And most people only get up 1? 1 promo per show. If you're having to put extensions on your deadlines just to get people to write 1 promo, you have to take a look at the way things are being organised. No one will read rps, or if they read them, they wont reply, because it'd get confusing as to who they were replying too if all rps were in one thread. They would also make it REALLY hard on thunder and trace to find the rps they are looking for since well, they would have to scroll to find it. I've never liked the idea of one thread for the show. |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 24, 2009 17:14:42 GMT -5
I havew to imagine you have nothing even closely resembling a life outside of your front door. Why? Okay. At the end of the day, this is just an e-fed. It's a bunch of people writing fake promos that never happened about a character that doesn't exist with the intention of defeating another promo that never happened about a character that doesn't exist. I think in the grand scheme of things, real life deserves a little more priority. So let me see if I understand your logic; me raising the question of why you guys are having to extend deadlines translates to demanding the complete abandonment of real life and suggesting the utter dedication of your souls to fake internet wrestling? Okay, so this is a fed full of globe trotting lion tamers that simply can't squeeze in more than 1 rp a show. (BTW I find it interesting how there's never a middle ground between "1 promo" and "345213 promos" when these discussions come up.) And me with my clear calendar, apart from my dedicated weight training, my college work as I look towards University this year, my job and my friends, I have all the time in the World to enjoy this as a recreational thing. I apologise in that respect for not seeing it as a chore to play this game. All I'm saying is that if people aren't managing to work to the guidelines why not redifine the guidelines. If a show that should be out in one week takes two why not just set the date for two weeks in the first place. EDIT - By the way, I'm NOT trying to sound like a dick here. It's just that my early impression is that some of you guys are finding this fed to be more like hard work than a game you want to play. If I'm way off? I'll keep it shut. I'm only talking because I want to be part of this fed anyway. writing a second roleplay risks lowering your chances to win. Because if its worse then your first rp, then you just basically showed that your skill has gone down so to speak. So it wouldn't even help you in the matters of winning the match. You can write how many ever rps you want, but its ONLY really your best rp that gets looked at. As everyone always said quality will always beat quantity. As to you saying this is just a chore, well thats why I am currently not rping, because I wasn't really enjoying it that much at the time. I also gotta give you props but being able to still rp even though you have a busy life, but some people can't put something together as fast as others. Some people NEED a few good days to put something together. I know when I actually sit down and plan out a rp it takes me a few days to put it together. There are days however where I'll just sit and write.. and my best work will come out. (ie the rp against meg where I defended my title). I actually have been beginning to want to come back.. I have a couple ideas in my head, but I gotta figure out what all is going on before I make any actions. |
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Post by hyde on Jan 24, 2009 18:02:45 GMT -5
That's cool, you know, I can see what you're talking about in regards to lowering the quality of your first RP. I honestly never even considered that a second promo could be damaging the way things are run here.
But what about responding to things that've been said in your opponent's promo? Don't you appreciate some good back and forth between two players. It really makes a match sometimes.
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Post by Thunder on Jan 24, 2009 18:15:03 GMT -5
Okay, here's the thing I've always found with people doing two or more RPs (and some of you have probably heard this from me several times).
I've noticed that there's almost always a correlation between the quality of the RPs when there's more than one. You end up with two RPs that really aren't as good as one solid one could be. In the time you could take what you've already written and refine it more or expand on it. Instead, you just post it and then suddenly you find yourself with another RP that doesn't say much. If you spent that whole time on one, you get one great RP instead of one blah RP. I know if I tried to do two a week, one would probably end up being utter crap and the other one would be brought down too because I didn't devote as much time to that one.
But like Calvin said, I don't think many of us have a three hour block or something to write an RP from start to finish so we can write one or two more later. I need to work it out first in my head and then after that the actual writing can take a few days in itself.
The problem isn't people doing only one RP a week. It's the people doing none.
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Post by sonstuds on Jan 24, 2009 19:01:18 GMT -5
The problem isn't people doing only one RP a week. It's the people doing none. Indeed. And if you were to go week-to-week you'll notice majority of the no shows come from the same people. |
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Post by Swarm on Jan 24, 2009 19:09:03 GMT -5
That's cool, you know, I can see what you're talking about in regards to lowering the quality of your first RP. I honestly never even considered that a second promo could be damaging the way things are run here. But what about responding to things that've been said in your opponent's promo? Don't you appreciate some good back and forth between two players. It really makes a match sometimes. That's sort of one of these unanswerable questions of e-fedding; Does your RP actually get seen by the general public or, more importantly, your opponent? The only somewhat definitive answer is some do and some don't. In the case of my match this week, I took it as if Sean saw Ashton's so my RP was a response to his. But for some people they do RPs that are moreso sections of their lives outside of the ring than a typical monologue format. I won't get into the pros and cons or my personal opinions but there are people who RP that way, so it's kind of a blurry line altogether. Just to throw this in, I actually typically only spend like, 45 minutes to an hour writing a standard monologue RP. I'll usually run through the monologue in my head before writing it but when I get to the actual writing, it only takes me about an hour or so. I rule. |
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Post by Revvie® on Jan 24, 2009 20:22:19 GMT -5
That's cool, you know, I can see what you're talking about in regards to lowering the quality of your first RP. I honestly never even considered that a second promo could be damaging the way things are run here. But what about responding to things that've been said in your opponent's promo? Don't you appreciate some good back and forth between two players. It really makes a match sometimes. That's sort of one of these unanswerable questions of e-fedding; Does your RP actually get seen by the general public or, more importantly, your opponent? The only somewhat definitive answer is some do and some don't. In the case of my match this week, I took it as if Sean saw Ashton's so my RP was a response to his. But for some people they do RPs that are moreso sections of their lives outside of the ring than a typical monologue format. I won't get into the pros and cons or my personal opinions but there are people who RP that way, so it's kind of a blurry line altogether.Just to throw this in, I actually typically only spend like, 45 minutes to an hour writing a standard monologue RP. I'll usually run through the monologue in my head before writing it but when I get to the actual writing, it only takes me about an hour or so. I rule. Thats right...haha..you better not say a bad word about it hehe...  |
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Post by Rated R on Jan 25, 2009 13:08:37 GMT -5
I'm guarenteeing that results will be up within a few hours. I'm waiting on one match, but if I've not recieved that match by the time I have to go out to work, then I'm putting results up without the match writeup, and just it's result.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Jan 25, 2009 13:22:52 GMT -5
Sounds good, looking forward to results.
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