Post by vampiroporvida on Oct 25, 2017 8:37:42 GMT -5
Mr. @3nwpro , how are you my friend? Thank you for the birthday wishes. What was cool is I got to read this that morning. Brilliant piece as always, especially with my lackluster new q's. I did better this time. Well as they say, on to the main event....vamonos.
The funny thing about my username is that, for awhile, I had no idea I misspelled vampiro. I went to log in one day when I had cleaned my cookies, and I couldn't log on with my info. I had to look at a post to see I was goofy and misspelled it (big thumbs on a little phone going too fast...bad mix). I was only able to change what shows to the board and not the actual login. In short, I was stupid.
What I find so crazy is that we started talking about Justin Credible, and I looked up famous people with my birthday and he has it too. So does Missy Hyatt and Chad Gray (Mudvayne). I was destined to love metal and ECW! Sometimes things come about at the right time...kismet.
It sounds like all the Grammy type shows are for the masses and not the underground, mostly. There are local scene award shows (bay area has one) and a Revolver award show that tends to be for the more maligned or forgotten genres. Not to say they mean much in the grand scheme of things, but more interesting that it is true peers giving them out. *This just hit me. Not a crazy thought. Have you ever thought about trying to do something like Roadie or Manager or some kind of team member with Parkway Drive and traveling the world? Sounds like a good fit for you Once those dudes meet you, how could they say no; you rule!
You make an intriguing question about rapport. I have thought about this, and I have concluded that there is a 2-fold connection with the folks themselves. Outside of musical content, each band has some character trait that bonds them to me. LB has the underdog fight and style. ICP has the care of fans and family aspect. Stroke 9 members have a calmness, almost peace, that I seek for myself, all with a cheeky twist. I can see myself in them. To give you an example of the unique feeling you talk about, I got jittery and electric (shellshock) when I thought Shaggy 2 Dope was feet in front of me outside the venue. He wasn't, but the feeling was there. Too, they are all either hated or just forgotten. Been there. Though, this phases them not, and it is an inspiration. They made it and live life by their terms. I have learned life lessons and been able to live vicariously through these folks, so, even though I never thought about it like this, there is a rapport with the people themselves. I guess that is why I have a want to meet them; maybe this is the same for others and their bands. It is true that there is something extra with these bands. I can't put my finger on it, but just something closer to my heart than the rest. It's a mystery to me, but that is ok.
After careful consideration, and the feelings exuded from the question prior, I think my desert island album is "Nasty Little Thoughts" from Stroke 9. It came down to 5 (2 s9, 2 lb, 1 icp). Limp Bizkit and ICP are loves of mine, but they feed the anger side of me. I have been angry for so long. I want to try and look to the future, be happy, go after certain goals. NLT makes me happy and always look to the future. To the good times I envision for myself. It shows me a side of myself that I want to let grow. I want to let the anger go, and this album helps. But then again, there is 'Little Black Backpack' if I get frustrated by my palapa falling down or no good swell to surf or something.
You hit what I was aiming for with the foreign touring question. I was basically saying that ,when a band is out of the limelight, America forgets they existed. What you said makes perfect sense. I never thought that it was harder for them to get our music, therefore they have less to listen to, while less bands also tour there. I wish I knew how to get Americans to stop the throw-away culture, in music and elsewhere.
The only things I can think that makes metal almost ubiquitously loved there is the unrest (econ and social). Metal breeds from struggle, and thrives by the need to express how you feel (angry), safely. Nothing more epitomizes this than that Iraqi metal band documentary "Heavy Metal in Baghdad."
I am aware of only a few bands that had been cagey about what they classify as, but it doesn't surprise me that bands don't want to label themselves, thus pigeonholing their sound. We already do that for them and say they are ___ . One song detours get a band declared changed, sometimes....we are a fickle bunch. Bands like to experiment, and "grow." Not that we always like it, and in terms of bands like Linkin Park and Papa Roach, pray for the good old days to return, but doing the same thing can get old to the musician. I prefer having an alternate band name if you want to do a new style, instead of experimental sound albums, ie: Green Day's hidden/alternate releases. I guess it is a brand loyalty kind of concept....let us know what we can expect just by the name. Then again a lot of fans don't flock to the side projects, so maybe this is the only way to be heard, even though it comes with a lot of pushback. I guess, to put it succinctly, the music speaks for itself, but maybe make an alternate name if you want to experiment a lot, or for so many songs. I mean, Slayer's Diabolous (I liked what I heard) is so hated, even Kerry would prefer not to acknowledge its existence. That could have been a record under a new name, and people that like nu-metal would have found it and dug it. Slayer fans whom already hated what the genre had become, seeing their band fall into the trend, could have categorized it differently, mentally, accepted it for a try at something new, and its perception might be better today.
I personally want to know what metal bands wrestlers like. Like you, I watched both segments. I understand why they do such content, trying to get cross views and bring in new fans. It works to bring metal heads to wrestling too. I mean, interview Aleister Black, show a clip, and some metalhead might become a fan of something previously unknown to them. There is also the aspect of creating a deeper connection between the celeb (best term I could think of) and the fan, which produces more investment, whether monetarily or just care of the product. If nothing else it is another way to help people feel a part of something grand. Granted not a lot of people watch the content, probably, but it is low cost and fun for a couple of people and surely the host. Has to be kind of nice to be asked a different question than the regular questions these wrestlers/celebs get blasted with. I do prefer the "Joe Goes" crazy interviewing of celebs though. That man is a legend. \m/
*On a side note, you talked about the silly questions, did you see the Pantera hair burning cartoon that Loudwire did? That is the silly stuff I need to know about.
New Qs:
Knowing your affinity for the genre, if you were to, in a distant world, create a metal band, what member would you be and what would be the subgenre? Any band names spring to mind?
What is missing in metal, in any sense (lyrics, sound, culture, etc.), that you wish would happen? Anything you would change? (I know before you said the metal culture [fans] had problems that drew you away)
Well buddy, thanks again for the birthday wishes. It has been a long couple of weeks with being sick, stressing, and dealing with all the misery that jobs are. The year is closing, the weather is cooling. and the sadder days are here. Hard time of year for a lot of reasons. Holidays.... Trying myself to focus on making my dreams a reality and helping others. Gotta get free. I know how bad it is for you too. No worries if you don't want to reply for awhile. I am always around for when you want to converse. I dig it. Here's to peace and happiness finding you. Til' we speak again. Horns high! \m/
Your friend,
VPV
The funny thing about my username is that, for awhile, I had no idea I misspelled vampiro. I went to log in one day when I had cleaned my cookies, and I couldn't log on with my info. I had to look at a post to see I was goofy and misspelled it (big thumbs on a little phone going too fast...bad mix). I was only able to change what shows to the board and not the actual login. In short, I was stupid.
What I find so crazy is that we started talking about Justin Credible, and I looked up famous people with my birthday and he has it too. So does Missy Hyatt and Chad Gray (Mudvayne). I was destined to love metal and ECW! Sometimes things come about at the right time...kismet.
It sounds like all the Grammy type shows are for the masses and not the underground, mostly. There are local scene award shows (bay area has one) and a Revolver award show that tends to be for the more maligned or forgotten genres. Not to say they mean much in the grand scheme of things, but more interesting that it is true peers giving them out. *This just hit me. Not a crazy thought. Have you ever thought about trying to do something like Roadie or Manager or some kind of team member with Parkway Drive and traveling the world? Sounds like a good fit for you Once those dudes meet you, how could they say no; you rule!
You make an intriguing question about rapport. I have thought about this, and I have concluded that there is a 2-fold connection with the folks themselves. Outside of musical content, each band has some character trait that bonds them to me. LB has the underdog fight and style. ICP has the care of fans and family aspect. Stroke 9 members have a calmness, almost peace, that I seek for myself, all with a cheeky twist. I can see myself in them. To give you an example of the unique feeling you talk about, I got jittery and electric (shellshock) when I thought Shaggy 2 Dope was feet in front of me outside the venue. He wasn't, but the feeling was there. Too, they are all either hated or just forgotten. Been there. Though, this phases them not, and it is an inspiration. They made it and live life by their terms. I have learned life lessons and been able to live vicariously through these folks, so, even though I never thought about it like this, there is a rapport with the people themselves. I guess that is why I have a want to meet them; maybe this is the same for others and their bands. It is true that there is something extra with these bands. I can't put my finger on it, but just something closer to my heart than the rest. It's a mystery to me, but that is ok.
After careful consideration, and the feelings exuded from the question prior, I think my desert island album is "Nasty Little Thoughts" from Stroke 9. It came down to 5 (2 s9, 2 lb, 1 icp). Limp Bizkit and ICP are loves of mine, but they feed the anger side of me. I have been angry for so long. I want to try and look to the future, be happy, go after certain goals. NLT makes me happy and always look to the future. To the good times I envision for myself. It shows me a side of myself that I want to let grow. I want to let the anger go, and this album helps. But then again, there is 'Little Black Backpack' if I get frustrated by my palapa falling down or no good swell to surf or something.
You hit what I was aiming for with the foreign touring question. I was basically saying that ,when a band is out of the limelight, America forgets they existed. What you said makes perfect sense. I never thought that it was harder for them to get our music, therefore they have less to listen to, while less bands also tour there. I wish I knew how to get Americans to stop the throw-away culture, in music and elsewhere.
The only things I can think that makes metal almost ubiquitously loved there is the unrest (econ and social). Metal breeds from struggle, and thrives by the need to express how you feel (angry), safely. Nothing more epitomizes this than that Iraqi metal band documentary "Heavy Metal in Baghdad."
I am aware of only a few bands that had been cagey about what they classify as, but it doesn't surprise me that bands don't want to label themselves, thus pigeonholing their sound. We already do that for them and say they are ___ . One song detours get a band declared changed, sometimes....we are a fickle bunch. Bands like to experiment, and "grow." Not that we always like it, and in terms of bands like Linkin Park and Papa Roach, pray for the good old days to return, but doing the same thing can get old to the musician. I prefer having an alternate band name if you want to do a new style, instead of experimental sound albums, ie: Green Day's hidden/alternate releases. I guess it is a brand loyalty kind of concept....let us know what we can expect just by the name. Then again a lot of fans don't flock to the side projects, so maybe this is the only way to be heard, even though it comes with a lot of pushback. I guess, to put it succinctly, the music speaks for itself, but maybe make an alternate name if you want to experiment a lot, or for so many songs. I mean, Slayer's Diabolous (I liked what I heard) is so hated, even Kerry would prefer not to acknowledge its existence. That could have been a record under a new name, and people that like nu-metal would have found it and dug it. Slayer fans whom already hated what the genre had become, seeing their band fall into the trend, could have categorized it differently, mentally, accepted it for a try at something new, and its perception might be better today.
I personally want to know what metal bands wrestlers like. Like you, I watched both segments. I understand why they do such content, trying to get cross views and bring in new fans. It works to bring metal heads to wrestling too. I mean, interview Aleister Black, show a clip, and some metalhead might become a fan of something previously unknown to them. There is also the aspect of creating a deeper connection between the celeb (best term I could think of) and the fan, which produces more investment, whether monetarily or just care of the product. If nothing else it is another way to help people feel a part of something grand. Granted not a lot of people watch the content, probably, but it is low cost and fun for a couple of people and surely the host. Has to be kind of nice to be asked a different question than the regular questions these wrestlers/celebs get blasted with. I do prefer the "Joe Goes" crazy interviewing of celebs though. That man is a legend. \m/
*On a side note, you talked about the silly questions, did you see the Pantera hair burning cartoon that Loudwire did? That is the silly stuff I need to know about.
New Qs:
Knowing your affinity for the genre, if you were to, in a distant world, create a metal band, what member would you be and what would be the subgenre? Any band names spring to mind?
What is missing in metal, in any sense (lyrics, sound, culture, etc.), that you wish would happen? Anything you would change? (I know before you said the metal culture [fans] had problems that drew you away)
Well buddy, thanks again for the birthday wishes. It has been a long couple of weeks with being sick, stressing, and dealing with all the misery that jobs are. The year is closing, the weather is cooling. and the sadder days are here. Hard time of year for a lot of reasons. Holidays.... Trying myself to focus on making my dreams a reality and helping others. Gotta get free. I know how bad it is for you too. No worries if you don't want to reply for awhile. I am always around for when you want to converse. I dig it. Here's to peace and happiness finding you. Til' we speak again. Horns high! \m/
Your friend,
VPV