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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2009 15:46:21 GMT -5
Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Mostly because they were very good leaders, and supported civil rights.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Aug 28, 2009 17:18:39 GMT -5
Clinton.
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Post by joker123 on Aug 29, 2009 3:52:56 GMT -5
I'd say Bill Clinton or John F. Kennedy.
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Post by Ben on Aug 29, 2009 11:46:29 GMT -5
Clinton. He was a "playa"
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 29, 2009 12:06:24 GMT -5
Not entirely true. If we hadn't dropped the bomb, the Japs would've fought to the last man, fought house to house in the cities and staged guerilla warfare up until the very last second. It would've been extremely costly and extremely bloody and extremely difficult. Not at all. We had already bombed Japan into submission. By rationality the atomic bomb was not needed. Japan already had been defeated militarily by June 1945. Almost nothing was left of the once mighty Imperial Navy, and Japan's air force had been all but totally destroyed. Against only token opposition, American war planes ranged at will over the country, and US bombers rained down devastation on her cities, steadily reducing them to rubble. Even before the Hiroshima attack, American air force General Curtis LeMay boasted that American bombers were "driving them [Japanese] back to the stone age." Henry H. ("Hap") Arnold, commanding General of the Army air forces, declared in his 1949 memoirs: "It always appeared to us, atomic bomb or no atomic bomb, the Japanese were already on the verge of collapse." This was confirmed by former Japanese prime minister Fumimaro Konoye, who said: "Fundamentally, the thing that brought about the determination to make peace was the prolonged bombing by the B-29s." I don't know what web site you're cutting and pasting that from without crediting them, but it's just not historically true. In late July, the US issued an ultimatum to Japan demanding their surrender and promising to destroy both the army and the country if they didn't comply. The Japanese responded by telling the US to go screw themselves and a week before the bombing of Hiroshima, the emperor himself issued an order that the country be defended at all costs. I don't see how this could be construed as anything other than a determination to fight to the last man. In fact, after bombing Hiroshima, the government took steps to make sure that no one from Japan tried to initiate peace talks. Only after Nagasaki was bombed and the Soviets launched their own invasion of Japan did they surrender. Please get your facts right.
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Post by KMIS™ on Aug 29, 2009 12:14:06 GMT -5
President David Palmer.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Aug 30, 2009 23:24:38 GMT -5
I'm with President Ford.
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Post by Gnewt32 on Aug 30, 2009 23:51:40 GMT -5
REAGAN!
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Post by Mizz Lola on Aug 31, 2009 1:20:43 GMT -5
Thomas Jefferson...there's something oddly sexy about him...
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Post by Mizz Lola on Aug 31, 2009 1:26:42 GMT -5
Not entirely true. If we hadn't dropped the bomb, the Japs would've fought to the last man, fought house to house in the cities and staged guerilla warfare up until the very last second. It would've been extremely costly and extremely bloody and extremely difficult. Not at all. We had already bombed Japan into submission. By rationality the atomic bomb was not needed. Japan already had been defeated militarily by June 1945. Almost nothing was left of the once mighty Imperial Navy, and Japan's air force had been all but totally destroyed. Against only token opposition, American war planes ranged at will over the country, and US bombers rained down devastation on her cities, steadily reducing them to rubble. Even before the Hiroshima attack, American air force General Curtis LeMay boasted that American bombers were "driving them [Japanese] back to the stone age." Henry H. ("Hap") Arnold, commanding General of the Army air forces, declared in his 1949 memoirs: "It always appeared to us, atomic bomb or no atomic bomb, the Japanese were already on the verge of collapse." This was confirmed by former Japanese prime minister Fumimaro Konoye, who said: "Fundamentally, the thing that brought about the determination to make peace was the prolonged bombing by the B-29s." Wow...the historical inaccuracies in your information made my eyes burn. Please do some more research on this topic. You can tell the site you got this from didn't use too many books.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Aug 31, 2009 4:08:06 GMT -5
Morgan Freeman in Deep Impact...
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Post by layton on Aug 31, 2009 10:02:47 GMT -5
Dave.
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 31, 2009 11:41:15 GMT -5
Ronald Reagan. And Ulysses S. Grant. I loved Horace Grant when I was younger, and they shared the same last name, so it was an automatic pick. :-D
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Post by Quanthor on Aug 31, 2009 12:34:48 GMT -5
Trail of Tears is pretty unforgivable despite his other accomplishments. It's one of the most despicable acts in American history.
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Post by wf13 on Aug 31, 2009 13:43:12 GMT -5
REAGAN SMASH! REAGAN SMASH! I pick Reagan.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Aug 31, 2009 14:32:27 GMT -5
John Henry Eden. His speeches were insparational, and his suicide unfortunate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2009 16:15:52 GMT -5
It's between Reagan, Obama, and Kennedy. Since I'm Canadian I barely know that much about U.S.A Presidents.
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Post by miserere on Aug 31, 2009 16:37:37 GMT -5
John Henry Eden. His speeches were insparational, and his suicide unfortunate. As much as I liked the other guy's post with "24's" David Palmer, I'm going to quote this one as it is somewhat more obscure, but twice as hilarious. Well done, sir.
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Post by wf13 on Aug 31, 2009 16:49:18 GMT -5
It's between Reagan, Obama, and Kennedy. Since I'm Canadian I barely know that much about U.S.A Presidents. You think he is a good president.
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Post by brm on Aug 31, 2009 16:50:26 GMT -5
William Taft is the obvious choice. Exactly. Any man who gets stuck in his own bath tub gets my vote.
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