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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 3, 2009 20:21:43 GMT -5
I can't believe this is even an argument. I think Badnewz is just a closet case. Arguing and hating gay people won't change anything, come out and accept it already. Being gay is not a choice no more than being straight is. I'm straight and I could tell you right now that there's no way I could ever flip a switch and be gay. As far as "natural" goes a lot of sex now-a-days is far from it. Walk into an adult store and take a look around. Gay people should be treated with dignity and have all the rights us straight people have, don't try and water down their sexuality by referring to it as a "choice" that's just plain ignorant. WTF? I'm a closet case? First of all, you have no right to disrespect me based on my personal views. I've been debating this topic with Slappy for years now and he has yet to do so. I have gay friends. Does that mean I have to agree with the life that they live? Absolutely not. I treat everyone with the same level of respect and dignity across the board. But still, it doesn't change what I believe. But don't call me stupid for believing what I do. I |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 3, 2009 20:23:45 GMT -5
What about the whole baby making issue? There are other ways to make babies than a man and a woman having sex. Other natural ways? BTW: If at any point you feel like I'm stepping outside this discussion or many others that we've had on the same issue, to disrespect you o your sexuality then by all means let me know. Because I'll just leave it alone. |
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Post by slappy on Dec 3, 2009 20:27:31 GMT -5
You're fine.
You can take the dad's stuff and an egg donors stuff and put them into another woman and it's still going to make a baby.
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Post by c14rock on Dec 3, 2009 20:46:36 GMT -5
I can't believe this is even an argument. I think Badnewz is just a closet case. Arguing and hating gay people won't change anything, come out and accept it already. Being gay is not a choice no more than being straight is. I'm straight and I could tell you right now that there's no way I could ever flip a switch and be gay. As far as "natural" goes a lot of sex now-a-days is far from it. Walk into an adult store and take a look around. Gay people should be treated with dignity and have all the rights us straight people have, don't try and water down their sexuality by referring to it as a "choice" that's just plain ignorant. WTF? I'm a closet case? First of all, you have no right to disrespect me based on my personal views. I've been debating this topic with Slappy for years now and he has yet to do so. I have gay friends. Does that mean I have to agree with the life that they live? Absolutely not. I treat everyone with the same level of respect and dignity across the board. But still, it doesn't change what I believe. But don't call me stupid for believing what I do. I So someone thinking you're gay offends or disrespects you? Interesting... |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 3, 2009 20:51:15 GMT -5
WTF? I'm a closet case? First of all, you have no right to disrespect me based on my personal views. I've been debating this topic with Slappy for years now and he has yet to do so. I have gay friends. Does that mean I have to agree with the life that they live? Absolutely not. I treat everyone with the same level of respect and dignity across the board. But still, it doesn't change what I believe. But don't call me stupid for believing what I do. I So someone thinking you're gay offends or disrespects you? Interesting... Oh! You meant closet as in gay? I thought you were just calling me a wack job. But to answer your question, no. You calling me gay doesn't offend me one bit. Why? Because I know I'm not. |
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Post by WCWA Online on Dec 3, 2009 20:58:23 GMT -5
keep in mind, it's not like Uganda is the most advanced civilization in the world.  I rest my case |
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Post by c14rock on Dec 3, 2009 21:11:12 GMT -5
I meant no real offense in what I said...Living in the bible belt I just deal with all of this hatred for homosexuals, it just gets tiring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2009 21:27:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure what my thoughts are on homosexuality, though I do have many gay friends. Some people say that Jews are successful as doctors, lawyers, etc. because in the middle ages since Jews weren't allowed to own land or property, or be farmers, etc., they were allowed only to take up jobs as money lenders, bankers, etc. and other jobs that require heavy intelligence, and that they passed the ability to do well and be intelligent onto their children, and their children passed it to their children, etc.
How does this relate to homosexuality? Well, most (not all, but most) gay people I know are from bigger cities and are always intelligent and creative. I'm sure there are quiet, small town farmers who are gay, but it doesn't seem to be common. I have not met many quiet, farming-type, small town gay people. Maybe their ancestors (the ancestors of today's gay people) were intelligent, creative, etc., and always ahead of the times, and that trait was passed on from generation to generation, all the way to the current generation in the family, where one family member was intelligent enough to realize that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality and so, that person was homosexual. This, however, would imply that in order to be intelligent one must be gay and that isn't true at all. Also, it's different than saying it's completely biological and genetic, but rather maybe a genetic adaptation of the mind (the general intelligence in the family line) over centuries of time.
I also wonder why some gay people are feminine, and some aren't. Some lesbians are masculine, and some aren't. And though writings of ancient empires and countries did talk about gay people (always in a negative light), it never mentions them having been feminine necessarily. Were gay people in ancient times just attracted to the same sex, or were the lesbians then actually often times "butchy," as some are today, and gay men during that time frame "feminine" as some are today? Then again, what did it mean to be feminine in ancient times? All women were allowed to do then anyway was nurture children and have sex with their husbands, I suppose there were primitive versions of feminine fashion and jewelry, but did gay men in ancient times "act" feminine, or were they all manly men who just had sex with men? And again with lesbians, did the lesbians then try to jump out and fight with the men, or were they feminine and simply attracted to other women? That's not to say that all masculine women are lesbians or all feminine guys are gay in this day and age, or that all gay guys are feminine or that all lesbians are masculine, but it's just something to wonder...
And what about transgenderism? That opens up a whole new list of questions...
The world may never know.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 3, 2009 21:31:27 GMT -5
I meant no real offense in what I said...Living in the bible belt I just deal with all of this hatred for homosexuals, it just gets tiring. No problem. Though I don't agree with the lifestyle, I harbor hatred for no particular race or group of people. Live your life the way you want to. It's your right to do so. But I don't have to exept it or agree with it. That's my view on the issue. I'm a Christian, but religious freaks who fight "sin" with more hatred make me sick. It really gives a terrible stigma to a religion that, honestly is full of more nice, well to do people than bible thumping gay bashers. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 3, 2009 21:47:08 GMT -5
As someone pointed out several pages ago and everyone completely and totally ignored, why does it matter if people choose to be gay or not? Even if, for the sake of argument, we say that people choose to be gay. Does that mean it's still right to discriminate against them? No, it's not. So whether they choose to be gay or are born that way, it doesn't make it right to discriminate against them.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 3, 2009 21:52:20 GMT -5
As someone pointed out several pages ago and everyone completely and totally ignored, why does it matter if people choose to be gay or not? Even if, for the sake of argument, we say that people choose to be gay. Does that mean it's still right to discriminate against them? No, it's not. So whether they choose to be gay or are born that way, it doesn't make it right to discriminate against them. Yeah, but the only one arguing that is that kid who can't type to save his life. I don't think anyone's taking that seriously. |
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Post by stlcardinalsfan on Dec 3, 2009 22:55:34 GMT -5
guys i was just messing with all the gay stuff earlier and me being racist
yeah i dont like people being gay , im not down with it but hey theyre human
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Post by Angel Beast on Dec 4, 2009 0:51:08 GMT -5
What does an artist from the middle ages have to do with the church? Just because he painted it doesn't mean that it's right. Because people say the church has always been against same sex relations which is false. The painting is case in point if they were so against it they would have not allowed it and either destroyed it or covered it up. At that point in time same sex relations was not frowned upon like it is today. back then many artists, writers, even some leaders/rulers had same sex relations. |
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Dec 4, 2009 3:06:56 GMT -5
What about the whole baby making issue? I love this argument for homophobia, because it opens a wide open door for so much. Ever used a condom, been with a girl on the pill, pulled out, etc, etc. ad nauseum. Then you are guilty of leading a deviant lifestyle, just as much as gay people. God did not create a latex sheath over your junk, so if you have ever used any form of contraceptive, you are comiting an unnatural sexual act. In addition, we can throw every other form of sex outside of vaginal intercourse, including masturbation, oral sex, and toys. Why? Because none of those acts are designed to create a baby. Not saying you are homophobic, I just see similar arguments come up on here, and it makes me laugh. |
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Post by gavamobile on Dec 4, 2009 4:12:32 GMT -5
I believe in a beautiful thing called Karma. Some of these replies make me with karma would give homophobes a gay child. Then we'll see if the parent in you accepts your child for who they are or the homophobe in you disowns your child.
I have gay friends... and one of which was incidentally the biggest homophobe ever before he came out (which was a shocker to me).
I somewhat believe homosexuality is partially based on Freud's psycho-sexual development when you're obviously anywhere between birth and say the age of 5. It's been said that homosexuality stems from not having a parent of the same sex as yourself around in childhood.
The other half of me? I can't explain it. I think you just are who you are... I mean... think about what you like in the opposite sex. You might prefer a great set, or brown hair, or a fantastic personality, someone who is fun to be with.
But then think about other people's preferences. They might prefer an average girl with blonde hair, who is easy and so on. So... really... homosexuals are no different from heterosexuals AT ALL other than the fact that, as anybody else, their preferences are different than yours.
Gay people are gay. Straight people are straight. Bisexual people are indecisive. Learn to accept it or you're the one who is actually less accepted than they are.
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Post by CM Poor on Dec 4, 2009 8:13:01 GMT -5
guys i was just messing with all the gay stuff earlier and me being racist yeah i dont like people being gay , im not down with it but hey theyre human Nope. You're a bigot and a hypocrite now. Congrats, and welcome to the internet. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Dec 4, 2009 10:56:34 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing again?.
Edit: Why are you all arguing again?
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Post by Parchandri on Dec 4, 2009 10:58:03 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing again? Because "The Love Fox" Barry White is an ignorant fool. |
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Post by CM Poor on Dec 4, 2009 11:04:07 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing again? Because "The Love Fox" Barry White is an ignorant fool. Pretty much. |
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Post by stlcardinalsfan on Dec 4, 2009 16:14:05 GMT -5
people like to start sh*t *cough sye cough*
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I dont know good luck 
