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Post by HardyHeft on Feb 18, 2010 15:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by LtD73 on Feb 18, 2010 15:08:13 GMT -5
I wonder what they'll do for Homicide
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bigtaurus78
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Feb 18, 2010 15:29:03 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't add all the details on Suicide. I bet there's a lot more people that find Triple H's iron cross more offensive than the name "Suicide". After all, the iron cross has been a symbol of racist Nazis and KKK for decades. The reason people don't find Triple H's iron cross offensive is because the iron cross existed more than a century before Hitler used it and it has been used as a military award dating all the way back to 1813. The word Suicide, on the other hand, only really has one meaning and that is to intentionally kill oneself. I'm not saying Jakks shouldn't include it, I'm just saying that there is a broader interpretation of the cross' meaning as opposed to the meaning of the word suicide. |
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Post by doctorwholigan79 on Feb 18, 2010 15:32:44 GMT -5
If Midway can include it in a game which kids could easily pick up and play then a figure with the word 'Suicide' on it shouldn't be much of a bother.
It's not like it says 'DIE KIDS DIE!' on it is it?
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Post by TotalValenz on Feb 18, 2010 15:37:55 GMT -5
I don't understand why they don't add all the details on Suicide. I bet there's a lot more people that find Triple H's iron cross more offensive than the name "Suicide". After all, the iron cross has been a symbol of racist Nazis and KKK for decades. The reason people don't find Triple H's iron cross offensive is because the iron cross existed more than a century before Hitler used it and it has been used as a military award dating all the way back to 1813. The word Suicide, on the other hand, only really has one meaning and that is to intentionally kill oneself. I know the iron cross has a history prior to Nazi Germany. The same can be said about the Swastika. However, both the iron cross and the Swastika have been the artifacts of a new movement and history. Both now represent racism and hate. |
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 15:38:57 GMT -5
says the 28 year old criticizing some one new to this site. Dick |
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Post by bigtaurus78 on Feb 18, 2010 15:41:52 GMT -5
The reason people don't find Triple H's iron cross offensive is because the iron cross existed more than a century before Hitler used it and it has been used as a military award dating all the way back to 1813. The word Suicide, on the other hand, only really has one meaning and that is to intentionally kill oneself. I know the iron cross has a history prior to Nazi Germany. The same can be said about the Swastika. However, both the iron cross and the Swastika have been the artifacts of a new movement and history. Both now represent racism and hate. I'm going to have to respectfully agree to disagree with you as, at least in the case of the iron cross, not everyone associates it as such. The swastika on the other hand is far more easily recognizable as a symbol of hate as it was introduced to the west as such. |
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 15:45:23 GMT -5
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 15:48:09 GMT -5
This logo is the same as triple h's and the one Germany used but isnt offensive as Suicide  |
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Post by sandmanecw on Feb 18, 2010 15:51:09 GMT -5
NOOOOO!!!!!!!! I need this figure!!!!!!!!!!!! I could really careless if the figure has Suicide on the chest or not I could always paint it on myself. I hope they don't scrap him. i hope they scrap him just to piss this guy off lol |
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Post by TotalValenz on Feb 18, 2010 15:51:49 GMT -5
I know the iron cross has a history prior to Nazi Germany. The same can be said about the Swastika. However, both the iron cross and the Swastika have been the artifacts of a new movement and history. Both now represent racism and hate. I'm going to have to respectfully agree to disagree with you as, at least in the case of the iron cross, not everyone associates it as such. The swastika on the other hand is far more easily recognizable as a symbol of hate as it was introduced to the west as such. See for yourself Triple H  KKK  |
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Post by 1992 on Feb 18, 2010 15:52:34 GMT -5
I still can't believe Ringside jobbed clean to Daniels. Very respectable. |
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Post by sandmanecw on Feb 18, 2010 15:54:56 GMT -5
I'm going to have to respectfully agree to disagree with you as, at least in the case of the iron cross, not everyone associates it as such. The swastika on the other hand is far more easily recognizable as a symbol of hate as it was introduced to the west as such. See for yourself Triple H  KKK lol, love how the first pic showed up |
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 16:18:47 GMT -5
how did we get from a figure coming out in 3 months to the kkk lol
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Post by jfinnomore on Feb 18, 2010 17:06:43 GMT -5
how did we get from a figure coming out in 3 months to the kkk lol that i don't know, but i do know you need to downsize your signature. |
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 20:01:04 GMT -5
i did
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Post by kayfabefan on Feb 18, 2010 21:15:28 GMT -5
I agree that something like "suicide" should not be marketed to children.
But anyway, it is a stupid gimmick I could care less about, would never buy this fig.
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Post by T1 on Feb 18, 2010 23:17:40 GMT -5
Don't blame Jakks, blame TNA. Naming one of their wrestlers "Suicide" is easily one of the dumbest and most unprofessional things a company could do. It was  ing stupid to give a marketable character such a controversial term. You can't honestly blame Jakks for not including his name. Blame TNA for their genius idea... |
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Post by WCW-Figure-Fan on Feb 18, 2010 23:31:50 GMT -5
Toy buyers would reject this on sight. How stupid are you people. Even making it as an online exclusive would be a huge risk for contraversy. Jakks has been there and is understandable eager to avoid it. This is too big of a risk. Be happy they are making the figure at all and get over the lack of a bizarrely tacky name logo. He looks WAY better without it. It always looked hideous designed in what looks like the eternally boring impact font. The only place Impact works as a font is with LOLcats. Using it on his costume just made him look like a walking, somewhat morbid LOLcat. What's to mourn about that? This is a clear example of us either dealing with the lack of that ugly name logo or not getting the figure at all. If you'd rather not get it all, just don't buy it. Problem solved.
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Post by kidkrazy15 on Feb 18, 2010 23:55:13 GMT -5
Without any probs with the text this is how it would look
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