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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 9:48:36 GMT -5
I dont understand what is really going on here on this show.... Now before I get well you dont like TNA... Blah blah blah I actually gave TNA a chance I still watch the show I still will but I really gave it a HUGE chance!!!! here are my reasonings for TNA being lack luster OJ: I really dont see the point in using his personal life relationships as a story line.....so hes bi....who cares. Abyss: Is not a monster and is now a joke... Come on a ring giving him powers??? Why not have him come out in a green costume and call him green lantern? Jay Lethal: Come on now the Macho Man thing was cool for a little while but its stale and old and why is he using old stars names? Did he get hit in the head at some showing that I missed? Ric Flair: Sorry I lost a lot of respect for him since he started wrestling again. Mr. Kenn......Anderson: Same gimmick.... I mean I know it was fun but come on reinvent yourself here was a chance for him to use any idea he may have had to start him up and make his mark but he just came into TNA as he went out of WWE. Beer Money Inc. : I love these guys but they need to stop being the new "3 minute warning". Matt Morgan: Heel, Face,Heel, Face Pick one already since he doesnt seem to be a tweener. Samoa Joe: Seriously.... Stop getting kidnapped to reinvent yourself. Its old real old. Tomko: Lose weight. (BTLS): Why is he on TV??? Hogans lacky? Just needs a paycheck??? Nasy Boys: No..... They were heels in the 80's-90's since then there have been more tag teams that were a lot more "Nasty" then they have been. AJ Styles: Now here is a guy who has talent a great wrestler an awesome talent. However.... He lacks charisma he needs to be an all around entertainer to be a HUGE Superstar I mean I know the die hards of TNA know him but he is not anywhere near a showman with the likes of Stone Cold, The Rock, Eddie Guerrero I even dare say Scott Hall in his WCW Hayday and HBK and aligning himself with Flair is also not giving him more charisma its just proves that he needs someone to talk for him.
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Post by CaK on Mar 31, 2010 10:38:52 GMT -5
I agree but there are more there to complain about lol I hope to hear more
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Post by spearjack24 on Mar 31, 2010 11:47:19 GMT -5
I dont understand what is really going on here on this show.... Now before I get well you dont like TNA... Blah blah blah I actually gave TNA a chance I still watch the show I still will but I really gave it a HUGE chance!!!! here are my reasonings for TNA being lack luster OJ: I really dont see the point in using his personal life relationships as a story line.....so hes bi....who cares. Abyss: Is not a monster and is now a joke... Come on a ring giving him powers??? Why not have him come out in a green costume and call him green lantern? Jay Lethal: Come on now the Macho Man thing was cool for a little while but its stale and old and why is he using old stars names? Did he get hit in the head at some showing that I missed? Ric Flair: Sorry I lost a lot of respect for him since he started wrestling again. Mr. Kenn......Anderson: Same gimmick.... I mean I know it was fun but come on reinvent yourself here was a chance for him to use any idea he may have had to start him up and make his mark but he just came into TNA as he went out of WWE. Beer Money Inc. : I love these guys but they need to stop being the new "3 minute warning". Matt Morgan: Heel, Face,Heel, Face Pick one already since he doesnt seem to be a tweener. Samoa Joe: Seriously.... Stop getting kidnapped to reinvent yourself. Its old real old. Tomko: Lose weight. (BTLS): Why is he on TV??? Hogans lacky? Just needs a paycheck??? Nasy Boys: No..... They were heels in the 80's-90's since then there have been more tag teams that were a lot more "Nasty" then they have been. AJ Styles: Now here is a guy who has talent a great wrestler an awesome talent. However.... He lacks charisma he needs to be an all around entertainer to be a HUGE Superstar I mean I know the die hards of TNA know him but he is not anywhere near a showman with the likes of Stone Cold, The Rock, Eddie Guerrero I even dare say Scott Hall in his WCW Hayday and HBK and aligning himself with Flair is also not giving him more charisma its just proves that he needs someone to talk for him. I didn't read your whole post, but I don't have to to solve your problem.....YOU HAVE NO CREATIVITY!!!! This isn't just with you; it's with a lot of people whose been critiquing TNA since Hogan's arrival. You people think too much and are so staunch in what you want TNA and the stars characters to be; you don't see the characters or storylines for what they really are. For couple examples.... Abyss with Hogan's ring....Isn't meant to be portrayed as "magical". The ring is supposed to symbolize courage, strength and belief in himself. Like for those of you who've seen the "Wizard of Oz". It's the same thing with the Scarecrow, Lion, and Tin-Man. They didn't need a heart, brain or courage...They already had them, but the Wizard gave them symbols to make them believe. This HOF ring is doing the same thing. Jay Lethal "Black Machismo".....His Randy Savage impersonation has made him believe that he is Randy Savage. So he thinks he is going to wrestle the greats of the past. You are hoping for what YOU want to happen; to the point that you don't get it, and don't like it. It would help if you just sat back for once and just watch the show. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!
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Post by Nix Hex on Mar 31, 2010 11:56:55 GMT -5
I agree with most of that..I don't know why tna had to sign OJ..He was one of the most boring guys ever in WWE..AJ is one of the only good things left in tna.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 12:14:18 GMT -5
I didn't read your whole post, but I don't have to to solve your problem.....YOU HAVE NO CREATIVITY!!!! This isn't just with you; it's with a lot of people whose been critiquing TNA since Hogan's arrival. You people think too much and are so staunch in what you want TNA and the stars characters to be; you don't see the characters or storylines for what they really are. For couple examples.... Abyss with Hogan's ring....Isn't meant to be portrayed as "magical". The ring is supposed to symbolize courage, strength and belief in himself. Like for those of you who've seen the "Wizard of Oz". It's the same thing with the Scarecrow, Lion, and Tin-Man. They didn't need a heart, brain or courage...They already had them, but the Wizard gave them symbols to make them believe. This HOF ring is doing the same thing. Jay Lethal "Black Machismo".....His Randy Savage impersonation has made him believe that he is Randy Savage. So he thinks he is going to wrestle the greats of the past. You are hoping for what YOU want to happen; to the point that you don't get it, and don't like it. It would help if you just sat back for once and just watch the show. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!! I never asked you to solve anything thats why its call a rant... As for my creativity I think I have a pretty creative mind I mean I work for a video game company so I have to be creative enough to work on games that people enjoy. I never once said it had anything to do with Hogans arrival to TNA I mainly left Hogan out of my piece only because it isnt Hogans fault I cant blame him for the Jay Lethal persona nor can I blame him for the way Abyss was such a huge wuss before the "magical" ring these things were a problem before he got there. Just like I dont blame him for Tomko gaining weight. As for your examples Abyss: If he is proclaimed a monster why go see a therapist and change back into the monster and then go back again to being a wuss? Whats the point of that??? The ring symbolizes nothing because it makes his character less developed meaning he is lost without it. So why even use a prop like that to develop a character? Because it is Hogans ring?!?!?! Please.... if thats the case lose the mask because at this point he could be any other wrestler in the back. If they want a monster build him like one dont make an excuse for him to be one. Jay Lethal: Now here is our problem... His persona is to be "like" Macho Man not "BE" Macho man and if they are going to use this as a way for him to "BE" Macho man they should have had him get hit in the head and wake up that way at least creatively that makes sense since no hit on the head he just took it and decided to play an 80's wrestler is not what a normal person would do no actor plays a role and believes that role for a whole year let alone allow it to go for almost 2 years. Bottom line is the story is still very stale. If they continue to use him this way I see him honestly getting let go not because of talent but because of lack of creativity.
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Post by spearjack24 on Mar 31, 2010 13:41:50 GMT -5
I didn't read your whole post, but I don't have to to solve your problem.....YOU HAVE NO CREATIVITY!!!! This isn't just with you; it's with a lot of people whose been critiquing TNA since Hogan's arrival. You people think too much and are so staunch in what you want TNA and the stars characters to be; you don't see the characters or storylines for what they really are. For couple examples.... Abyss with Hogan's ring....Isn't meant to be portrayed as "magical". The ring is supposed to symbolize courage, strength and belief in himself. Like for those of you who've seen the "Wizard of Oz". It's the same thing with the Scarecrow, Lion, and Tin-Man. They didn't need a heart, brain or courage...They already had them, but the Wizard gave them symbols to make them believe. This HOF ring is doing the same thing. Jay Lethal "Black Machismo".....His Randy Savage impersonation has made him believe that he is Randy Savage. So he thinks he is going to wrestle the greats of the past. You are hoping for what YOU want to happen; to the point that you don't get it, and don't like it. It would help if you just sat back for once and just watch the show. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!! I never asked you to solve anything thats why its call a rant... As for my creativity I think I have a pretty creative mind I mean I work for a video game company so I have to be creative enough to work on games that people enjoy. I never once said it had anything to do with Hogans arrival to TNA I mainly left Hogan out of my piece only because it isnt Hogans fault I cant blame him for the Jay Lethal persona nor can I blame him for the way Abyss was such a huge wuss before the "magical" ring these things were a problem before he got there. Just like I dont blame him for Tomko gaining weight. As for your examples Abyss: If he is proclaimed a monster why go see a therapist and change back into the monster and then go back again to being a wuss? Whats the point of that??? The ring symbolizes nothing because it makes his character less developed meaning he is lost without it. So why even use a prop like that to develop a character? Because it is Hogans ring?!?!?! Please.... if thats the case lose the mask because at this point he could be any other wrestler in the back. If they want a monster build him like one dont make an excuse for him to be one. Jay Lethal: Now here is our problem... His persona is to be "like" Macho Man not "BE" Macho man and if they are going to use this as a way for him to "BE" Macho man they should have had him get hit in the head and wake up that way at least creatively that makes sense since no hit on the head he just took it and decided to play an 80's wrestler is not what a normal person would do no actor plays a role and believes that role for a whole year let alone allow it to go for almost 2 years. Bottom line is the story is still very stale. If they continue to use him this way I see him honestly getting let go not because of talent but because of lack of creativity. Oh ok...WORKING for a video game company makes you creative! Well then you suck at your job; if you can't figure something as simple as a wrestling storyline out! Again you're putting too much thought into the characters; thats evident by your explanation of Abyss and Lethal.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 14:19:03 GMT -5
Oh ok...WORKING for a video game company makes you creative! Well then you suck at your job; if you can't figure something as simple as a wrestling storyline out! Again you're putting too much thought into the characters; thats evident by your explanation of Abyss and Lethal. Your comment is quite entertaining because it contradicts itself only because you tell me I am bad at my job because I am not creative enough but yet I put too much thought into a character which means I am creative enough to have a an idea and stand point. Yeah I believe that it helps when you are brainstorming that being creative helps a Million dollar game and sells more than its fair share and has had multiple sequels. I consider that a success. And there is a story behind every "storyline" no matter how bad it may be and that is exactly what I meant. Me putting too much thought into a character is better than throwing an idea and keeping it for so long without development or a lame excuse for a development. I would rather sit in a meeting and come up with a better way to run a storyline than to just throw a "ring" on a big wrestler and expect it to be a great idea to showcase his strengths or the idea of using a old gimmick from the 80's and have them just "run with it"for a year and a half. Its as simple as this.... A story is supposed to grab your attention and make you want to know more not bore or confuse your audience.
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Post by Lewscher on Mar 31, 2010 15:57:11 GMT -5
did'nt lethal start that with paparazzi productions? if so AGES! ago, should have died when his affiliation with nash simmered,
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Mar 31, 2010 16:17:55 GMT -5
This is nothing to fight about. AJ needs a personality. I don't know if he has any hope of developing one at this point. It's like Benoit (is that taboo?) He can be champion, but he should never be within 100 feet of a mic. I understand why WheelFlair is with him, but it isn't really helping. Flair has a place there, possibly with AJ, but he is overshadowing AJ.
I have never liked the Black Machismo thing. Come on, he is being Randy Savage. He had his interaction with Hogan, now it's time to end it. The X division needs more credibility in the form of personalities, not 80's stars
It's pretty clear that they have no idea how to use Joe unless he is a killer. TNA doesn't need a killer right now. Having him kidnapped just to get him out of the way for awhile is sorta lame.
Brian Kendrick has potential, he shouldn't be jobbing to Kaz and Shannon Moore for God's sake.
Abyss.............I have never liked Abyss. Since 2003 or whenever he started I always looked at him as a cheap Kane knockoff. A poor man's Kane, if you will. He went to an institution and became paranoid. Now he is an 80's caricature of a wrestler, in the Hogan/Beefcake/Warrior sort of way. I can honestly say that he has never had a good gimmick. The ring thing is weak. The alliance with Hogan is also weak. I see what they are doing, polar opposites, AJ and WheelFlair vs Abyss and Hogan. I think Abyss was a terrible choice. I would have rather seen Hogan pimpin' it with Pope as his charge. Sure, Pope doesn't need Hogan, but it would have worked. Things are starting to even out a bit, finally. I sort of like where they are going, and it's something different for a change.
Morgan I agree with you about. He is a heel one month, then he's a sarcastic face for a couple of months. The fans get behind him, and he turns again...for no reason. This is why Lex Luger had so much trouble getting over.
I would like to end on a positive note, though, so...here goes
I have truly enjoyed TNA's shows more than Raw since Hogan took over, with the exception of maybe one. I like what they are doing, they just need to smooth things over a bit.
I love the way that Anderson is being used. He came up with the gimmick, I don't see what the problem with him using it is. It had massive potential, and it's likely that, if anything Anderson said is true (about Orton lying, and getting in trouble when Cena injured himself) he has a chance to prove it. He is doing great as a heel and I have no idea why people think he sucks. He has personality coming out of his ears. If only AJ could get some.
Angle is special. He can turn left and right, and have a damn good reason, and be successful every time. Why? because he is that good. People will always respect him, and he deserves it. He can be a hilarious heel, a serious heel, a psychotic heel, a creepy heel, a serious face, a sarcastic face, a patriotic face...he has it all. I could go on and on. As long as TNA has him, he is the franchise.
Sting as a heel is something different, for a change. He has done all he has to do as a face, and they could build to where Sting convinced AJ to turn on the fans. He has a natural feud in place with Hogan as power-wielding figurehead.
Pope is great. I love everything he is doing, and he seems to be pretty over. Another miss for WWE.
Desmond Wolfe, a great wrestler. He is an upper mid-carder now. Let's see if he can get any higher.
The potential for future stories is pretty much endless, if they play their cards right. We will see what happens with Jeff Hardy, but , provided he stays, they have RVD and Jeff as a tag team, in friendly matches against each other, and eventually in a feud. Besides, these are two of the top stars in wrestling.
Hogan can open doors that NO other wrestler can for TNA. He got the whole show moved to Mondays.
Bischoff is a great on-air character. I am enjoying the slow build to Hogan vs Bischoff.
Sorry this is all so long, but I really wanted to address what I feel TNA's strenghths and weaknesses truly are. I would like to end with a question. Why is everybody so pissed off at Flair? He didn't retire. So what? Who retires once and for all? Terry Funk retired in 1983 for the first time. He is probably still wrestling somewhere right now. Is everyone that loyal to WWE? You realize they forced him out, right? He has been through 28 divorces, and just can't hold onto money. What do you want him to do? Flip burgers? Buy a bike and get a paper route with his hat turned backwards? WWE didn't want him, TNA can use him. Don't take it so personally. It's not real. Same with Jeff Hardy. Everybody hates him because he didn't come back to the WWE. Come on. Stop acting so immature. It's not like he slapped you across the face. If you liken someone leaving WWE to a personal insult, you really need to gain some perspective.
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Post by deskjet on Mar 31, 2010 18:15:39 GMT -5
I dont understand what is really going on here on this show.... Now before I get well you dont like TNA... Blah blah blah I actually gave TNA a chance I still watch the show I still will but I really gave it a HUGE chance!!!! here are my reasonings for TNA being lack luster OJ: I really dont see the point in using his personal life relationships as a story line.....so hes bi....who cares. Abyss: Is not a monster and is now a joke... Come on a ring giving him powers??? Why not have him come out in a green costume and call him green lantern? Jay Lethal: Come on now the Macho Man thing was cool for a little while but its stale and old and why is he using old stars names? Did he get hit in the head at some showing that I missed? Ric Flair: Sorry I lost a lot of respect for him since he started wrestling again. Mr. Kenn......Anderson: Same gimmick.... I mean I know it was fun but come on reinvent yourself here was a chance for him to use any idea he may have had to start him up and make his mark but he just came into TNA as he went out of WWE. Beer Money Inc. : I love these guys but they need to stop being the new "3 minute warning". Matt Morgan: Heel, Face,Heel, Face Pick one already since he doesnt seem to be a tweener. Samoa Joe: Seriously.... Stop getting kidnapped to reinvent yourself. Its old real old. Tomko: Lose weight. (BTLS): Why is he on TV??? Hogans lacky? Just needs a paycheck??? Nasy Boys: No..... They were heels in the 80's-90's since then there have been more tag teams that were a lot more "Nasty" then they have been. AJ Styles: Now here is a guy who has talent a great wrestler an awesome talent. However.... He lacks charisma he needs to be an all around entertainer to be a HUGE Superstar I mean I know the die hards of TNA know him but he is not anywhere near a showman with the likes of Stone Cold, The Rock, Eddie Guerrero I even dare say Scott Hall in his WCW Hayday and HBK and aligning himself with Flair is also not giving him more charisma its just proves that he needs someone to talk for him. I didn't read your whole post, but I don't have to to solve your problem.....YOU HAVE NO CREATIVITY!!!! This isn't just with you; it's with a lot of people whose been critiquing TNA since Hogan's arrival. You people think too much and are so staunch in what you want TNA and the stars characters to be; you don't see the characters or storylines for what they really are. For couple examples.... Abyss with Hogan's ring....Isn't meant to be portrayed as "magical". The ring is supposed to symbolize courage, strength and belief in himself. Like for those of you who've seen the "Wizard of Oz". It's the same thing with the Scarecrow, Lion, and Tin-Man. They didn't need a heart, brain or courage...They already had them, but the Wizard gave them symbols to make them believe. This HOF ring is doing the same thing. Jay Lethal "Black Machismo".....His Randy Savage impersonation has made him believe that he is Randy Savage. So he thinks he is going to wrestle the greats of the past. You are hoping for what YOU want to happen; to the point that you don't get it, and don't like it. It would help if you just sat back for once and just watch the show. IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!! I dont often agree with Voyager and I'm not necessarily doing so here in refence to the other poster, however I do believe that the wrestling community as a whole just doesnt give TNA any credit for anything they do. If WWE does the same exact thing one week then they are labled as cool, edgey, funny, or it's just called dumb and people move on. TNA uses a variety of things to get fans interested as well as put on some quality wrestling and what do they have to show for it? .6 rating? While WWE RAw shows us a night full of recaps, and half naked guys in a hot tub sitting around all night long, with promos galore and it draws a 3.7. Saying that what TNA tries to do causes the ratings drop is, I think, unfair to them when WWE does the same thing. I think it's become clear that TNA can not compete with WWE on Mondays or any night of the week as far as ratings are concerned because the interest is just not there. They've done everything under the sun aside from have Cena, batista, HHH, taker, and Stone cOld show up on their show, and I doubt even that would help them beat RAW. Point is, Ya cant blame the drop in ratings on TNA not trying or their lack of creativity/storylines. In the past, they were a train wreck, but of late I've been able to follow more of their storylines, and be more entertained by the new things they throw at me each week, then watching the same old stuff over and over again on RAW. DOnt get me wrong, I do enjoy RAW, and WWE does alot of things right from an entertainment standpoint, however, of late TNA has captured my interest more. As anoying as it is, admittedly, it takes you as a viewer to sit down and really get into what TNA is offering for you to enjoy/understand in. In other words, ya kinda have to peer down the line in anticipation of what might/could happen and also allow yourself and TNA the time to see where things are headed. In WWE most people can predict whats gonna happen a mile away. TNA, unfortunately for some, takes some thought. And that's probably why most people tune out, because they cant just turn the tv on and be entertained, they actually have to figure something out. To TNA's misfortune, that's not a good thing, but to their credit, it keeps people who are willing to do that hooked in and coming back. The problem is again, the wrestling fanbase doesnt want to sit and figure stuff out, they wanna sit, watch a few moves, see the finisher and watch their hero win or the villain lose, etc, etc. And there's nothing wrong with that, but that's not TNA. Unfortunatley for them, either you like that type of programming or you dont. So what can TNA do against an established company and fanbase? Nothing, but just continue to put out their product with focus on divsions, championships, storylines, and good wrestling...in that area, i think they're making some strides...for now
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 19:08:01 GMT -5
I dont often agree with Voyager and I'm not necessarily doing so here in refence to the other poster, however I do believe that the wrestling community as a whole just doesnt give TNA any credit for anything they do. If WWE does the same exact thing one week then they are labled as cool, edgey, funny, or it's just called dumb and people move on. TNA uses a variety of things to get fans interested as well as put on some quality wrestling and what do they have to show for it? .6 rating? While WWE RAw shows us a night full of recaps, and half naked guys in a hot tub sitting around all night long, with promos galore and it draws a 3.7. Saying that what TNA tries to do causes the ratings drop is, I think, unfair to them when WWE does the same thing. I think it's become clear that TNA can not compete with WWE on Mondays or any night of the week as far as ratings are concerned because the interest is just not there. They've done everything under the sun aside from have Cena, batista, HHH, taker, and Stone cOld show up on their show, and I doubt even that would help them beat RAW. Point is, Ya cant blame the drop in ratings on TNA not trying or their lack of creativity/storylines. In the past, they were a train wreck, but of late I've been able to follow more of their storylines, and be more entertained by the new things they throw at me each week, then watching the same old stuff over and over again on RAW. DOnt get me wrong, I do enjoy RAW, and WWE does alot of things right from an entertainment standpoint, however, of late TNA has captured my interest more. As anoying as it is, admittedly, it takes you as a viewer to sit down and really get into what TNA is offering for you to enjoy/understand in. In other words, ya kinda have to peer down the line in anticipation of what might/could happen and also allow yourself and TNA the time to see where things are headed. In WWE most people can predict whats gonna happen a mile away. TNA, unfortunately for some, takes some thought. And that's probably why most people tune out, because they cant just turn the tv on and be entertained, they actually have to figure something out. To TNA's misfortune, that's not a good thing, but to their credit, it keeps people who are willing to do that hooked in and coming back. The problem is again, the wrestling fanbase doesnt want to sit and figure stuff out, they wanna sit, watch a few moves, see the finisher and watch their hero win or the villain lose, etc, etc. And there's nothing wrong with that, but that's not TNA. Unfortunatley for them, either you like that type of programming or you dont. So what can TNA do against an established company and fanbase? Nothing, but just continue to put out their product with focus on divsions, championships, storylines, and good wrestling...in that area, i think they're making some strides...for now I have no argument about the not taking in the show as a whole but I merely pointed out that those factors alone do not show a lot of promise and if it continues down the line there will be no TNA. It wont make it out for long not because they arent smart TV. Its because they arent "smart" enough to carry a stronger idea. I like to think or else I wouldnt be able to point out at least 8 characters on the show to prove my point.
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Post by raabhimselffanv2 on Mar 31, 2010 19:15:09 GMT -5
To people bashing OJ: He has charisma, and how is he boring? People crap over a amtch that consists of 4 arms bars, 3 knee drops and 17 headlocks and the finish is a ing fist drop just because its from the 80's. Thats BORING, not Orlando coming out to the ring with something FRESH
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Post by sicknicholas on Mar 31, 2010 20:28:55 GMT -5
Long rant blah blah blah!
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Post by carly1988 on Mar 31, 2010 20:34:37 GMT -5
I stopped reading after "I lost respect for Flair after he started wrestling again"
Seriously people get over it. NOBODY stays retired
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 20:55:43 GMT -5
To people bashing OJ: He has charisma, and how is he boring? People poop over a amtch that consists of 4 arms bars, 3 knee drops and 17 headlocks and the finish is a ing fist drop just because its from the 80's. Thats BORING, not Orlando coming out to the ring with something FRESHIts not fresh... Hes bi we get it... Its not interesting nobody cares that he is bi. If he was talented then why use his personal life as a gimmick? Charisma isnt coming out of the closet. Charisma is grabbing someones attention and have them not change the channel.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 20:59:07 GMT -5
Long rant blah blah blah! Lame post useless blah blah blah..... At least I posted points and had a valid argument.
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Post by Edgeacution on Mar 31, 2010 21:07:52 GMT -5
I stopped reading after "I lost respect for Flair after he started wrestling again" Seriously people get over it. NOBODY stays retired If you stopped reading then why bother to post??? Its a rant get over it. Theres more to my rant other the Flair and if thats all you read then get over yourself. No one has respect for someone who made a big deal about a retirement and just comeback less than a year to the competition.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 31, 2010 21:26:00 GMT -5
Mr. Anderson is nowhere near the same guy (character wise), he was at the end of his WWE stint. He's ten times better than anything he had done in WWE, because he has FREEDOM. There's no way saying "Nope, can't do that" or "Do this instead". He's driving his own promos and it's working.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Mar 31, 2010 21:32:22 GMT -5
I'd love for TNA to succeed, but it's getting to the point of being unbearably bad.
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Post by sicknicholas on Mar 31, 2010 22:02:52 GMT -5
Long rant blah blah blah! Lame post useless blah blah blah..... At least I posted points and had a valid argument. telling people not to say pointless stuff, in a pointless thread. Your opinions don't matter to me. SO I decided to post a angry rant like everyone else.
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