snoopy13
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Post by snoopy13 on Jan 28, 2011 15:29:12 GMT -5
ok we already talked about shocking heel turns now i want to talk about shocking baby face turn.i throught jimmy hart turn baby face was shocking and teb diabaise turn baby face was shocking.what are everyone else feel were shocking baby face turns are.
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Post by Raine on Jan 28, 2011 15:45:51 GMT -5
Virgil at Royal Rumble 1991 was enjoyable if not predictable.
Undertaker at SNME (Feb 92).
Austin/Bret double turn at WM13 was executed perfectly.
Batista slow burner face turn was brilliance.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jan 28, 2011 18:43:05 GMT -5
Randy Savage after his match with the Ultimate Warrior at WM 7 where Liz runs in.
Does that count? lol
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jan 28, 2011 18:47:04 GMT -5
Macho Man and Razor Ramon.
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Post by Likwid[[Southern]] on Jan 28, 2011 18:51:32 GMT -5
Titus O'Neil or whatever his name was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 11:08:09 GMT -5
ya see Babyface turns are usually slow burners arent they-to build the anticipation of this character going face whereas heels are usually done quickly to suprise folks.
shocking face turns.......that I didnt see coming
Demolition at Suivors 88(of course they had to do this-POP were being booed andDem cheered for months beforehand similar to Austin)
Andre at WM6
Rock at Backlash 99
Lesnar after HIAC with Taker
HBK after WM11
Diesel in late 94
hmm cant really think of any more.......
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 29, 2011 11:37:19 GMT -5
Hand down Mr. Perfect. Most guys Ive seen as good guys or bad guys but Perfect was always a bad guy to me and then BOOM, he's teaming with Macho Man, slapping around Heenan and ready to kill Flair.
And I saw it mentioned above. Taker didnt turn face at Tuesday in Texas, he was still a Heel at the Royal Rumble and heading into The Main Event where he teamed with Flair
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Post by twinn on Jan 29, 2011 19:22:55 GMT -5
Hand down Mr. Perfect. Most guys Ive seen as good guys or bad guys but Perfect was always a bad guy to me and then BOOM, he's teaming with Macho Man, slapping around Heenan and ready to kill Flair. This is probably what I would say too... I despised Mr. Perfect and then I loved him... His turn was done in a fantastic way... |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Jan 29, 2011 19:43:16 GMT -5
I thought Roddy Piper's babyface turn in 1986 was relatively out of the blue. He was always one of the very top heels in the promotion, although similar to Steve Austin years later, Piper oozed so much charisma and was so entertaining that there were always people that cheered him no matter what.
But the way they turned him -- by having Adrian Adonis basically attack him and steal the Piper's Pit gimmick -- it sort of came out of nowhere. And they handled it well in the months afterward, too. They made it perfectly clear that Piper hated Adonis and those he was associated with (Jimmy Hart, Bob Orton, Don Muraco) but they also did a nice job with Piper easing into the babyface role along side guys he used to hate -- namely Hogan.
They didn't just book him and Hogan to suddenly be pals... they teased ongoing distrust between the two and did it in a realistic way.
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Post by Raine on Jan 30, 2011 8:24:04 GMT -5
And I saw it mentioned above. Taker didnt turn face at Tuesday in Texas, he was still a Heel at the Royal Rumble and heading into The Main Event where he teamed with Flair You are correct sir, it was a SNME (possibly the same one that Sid walked out on Hogan on?) its cause Tues in Texas & the SNME in question both had Jake vs Macho as main event, thats what threw me, good spot tho  Joker boy, the Diesel turn at Survivors 94 was easy to spot, the boot in the chops from HBK on Superstars and Summerslam 94, were the clue. It all stemmed from Diesel getting over in 94 Rumble, the crowd were chanting for him big time. Bigger surprise was Big D winning the belt the night after in 8 secs. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jan 31, 2011 3:51:40 GMT -5
Hand down Mr. Perfect. Most guys Ive seen as good guys or bad guys but Perfect was always a bad guy to me and then BOOM, he's teaming with Macho Man, slapping around Heenan and ready to kill Flair. And I saw it mentioned above. Taker didnt turn face at Tuesday in Texas, he was still a Heel at the Royal Rumble and heading into The Main Event where he teamed with Flair Good call, there was literally no build to Perfect. He was heel then Savage made him his partner and he was face. I'm thinking Maxx Pain's turn was a surprise, but I really can't remember anything except when he and Badd shook hands. so there may have been a build before that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2011 7:42:39 GMT -5
You guys are getting Baby face confused with Face, Baby-face is a full-fledged face like Cena, face is like a tweener but almost never acts heel. Like Kane in 2007
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 31, 2011 9:52:43 GMT -5
You guys are getting Baby face confused with Face, Baby-face is a full-fledged face like Cena, face is like a tweener but almost never acts heel. Like Kane in 2007  |
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Post by Raine on Jan 31, 2011 10:09:23 GMT -5
You guys are getting Baby face confused with Face, Baby-face is a full-fledged face like Cena, face is like a tweener but almost never acts heel. Like Kane in 2007 Face is just short for babyface buddy. Perhaps you are getting confused with Uber-face, which is what Cena is. And Hogan was in 1980's WWF. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jan 31, 2011 10:19:31 GMT -5
Eddie G.
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Post by Bandalero on Jan 31, 2011 12:20:57 GMT -5
You guys are getting Baby face confused with Face, Baby-face is a full-fledged face like Cena, face is like a tweener but almost never acts heel. Like Kane in 2007 Best reaction ever! Anyways, if I can bring an NWA/WCW perspective to this thread: - Nikita Koloff turning face to honour his arch-nemesis Magnum T.A. - Ric Flair just being a face whenever the company called for it...weird - Arn Anderson (see Ric Flair) - Bookah T's single's career after being a ruthless tag team rulebreaker - The Hollywood Blondes getting over as faces - |
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Post by Focalin on Jan 31, 2011 15:14:17 GMT -5
How about the time when Dvon dudley randomly dropped the "Brother Dvon" gimmick and reunited the dudley boys in 2002?
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Post by carly1988 on Jan 31, 2011 20:50:22 GMT -5
Best reaction ever! Anyways, if I can bring an NWA/WCW perspective to this thread: - Nikita Koloff turning face to honour his arch-nemesis Magnum T.A. - Ric Flair just being a face whenever the company called for it...weird - Arn Anderson (see Ric Flair) - Bookah T's single's career after being a ruthless tag team rulebreaker - The Hollywood Blondes getting over as faces - Nikita! Never thought of that one. it was at a time where Russians were still bad guys in wrestling and were for many more years. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2011 4:32:54 GMT -5
yeah Nikitas turn was great.
also someone mentioned D-Von.yeah that was great and so well received in MSG too
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Post by LeighD on Feb 8, 2011 11:18:02 GMT -5
You guys are getting Baby face confused with Face, Baby-face is a full-fledged face like Cena, face is like a tweener but almost never acts heel. Like Kane in 2007 Made me LOL Babyface/Face = Good Guy Heel = Bad Guy Betweener/Tweener = Has traits of face and heel *(see above) On topic, Savage at WrestleMania VII is a big one. Mr. Perfect's in late-92 was odd for me. It was too "cut and dry." Add to that I've never like Hennig as a face as he was just a natural heel in my books. |
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