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Post by hollywoodscene on Feb 9, 2011 14:43:10 GMT -5
In general I'm glad censorship is in place, I'm glad when I go to the movies I know I wont be surprised with a scene of two guys explicitly having intercourse or something like that. But a guy and girl explicitly having intercourse is ok? No, I would hate that as well. I hate how much nudity is getting in films these days as is. Not exactly something you can take a girl on a date anymore. Lots of movies seem to rely on shock value instead of producing real jokes anymore. Its why I watch Pixar movies these days to get a good laugh.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 5:24:32 GMT -5
I've always looked at it as they're just words. I mean I was raised in a family where if you said a "bad word" you were disciplined, but I never understood why. They're just words and everyone says them or at one point has said them.
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 10, 2011 5:28:33 GMT -5
But a guy and girl explicitly having intercourse is ok? No, I would hate that as well. I hate how much nudity is getting in films these days as is. Not exactly something you can take a girl on a date anymore. Lots of movies seem to rely on shock value instead of producing real jokes anymore. Its why I watch Pixar movies these days to get a good laugh. Pffft, I hate how ass backwards this country is on nudity as opposed to violence. It's fine to see someone get decapitated, burned alive, etc... but god forbid a little vagina is shown.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 5:35:12 GMT -5
No, I would hate that as well. I hate how much nudity is getting in films these days as is. Not exactly something you can take a girl on a date anymore. Lots of movies seem to rely on shock value instead of producing real jokes anymore. Its why I watch Pixar movies these days to get a good laugh. Pffft, I hate how ass backwards this country is on nudity as opposed to violence. It's fine to see someone get decapitated, burned alive, etc... but god forbid a little vagina is shown. Because this country thrives on violence. It's one of the many things that has got this country all ed up. Now I'm not saying I don't mind a good violent movie or television show but these days you can watch a tv show or a movie and learn how to kill someone, the best way to do it, and how to get away with it.
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Post by M on Feb 10, 2011 5:37:34 GMT -5
No, I would hate that as well. I hate how much nudity is getting in films these days as is. Not exactly something you can take a girl on a date anymore. Lots of movies seem to rely on shock value instead of producing real jokes anymore. Its why I watch Pixar movies these days to get a good laugh. Pffft, I hate how ass backwards this country is on nudity as opposed to violence. It's fine to see someone get decapitated, burned alive, etc... but god forbid a little vagina is shown. It's hard to believe that my video rental store had a huge poster of the movie 'Dead Snow'. That is far worse than someone completely naked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 8:09:37 GMT -5
Censorship is all relevant to the eye of the beholder. Sure in the past twenty five years or so the country has changed into a more violence and shock based society then it was before but now you have the internet and kids have a lot more access to things they didnt have before. When i was little they actually enforced the R rating at movie theatres, just for an example. Was that censorship? sure probably but whos to say. Only when it is blatant just for the sake of censorship that I have a problem with it. As society changes so does its sense of right and wrong.
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Post by extreme on Feb 10, 2011 15:23:00 GMT -5
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Post by hollywoodscene on Feb 10, 2011 16:00:24 GMT -5
What people fail to argue is that its simulated violence and REAL nudity. Id honestly rather have my kid watch Rambo than Shortbus. There is less likely a chnace he will simulate what he saw in Rambo than in the other film.
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Post by slappy on Feb 10, 2011 16:06:37 GMT -5
What people fail to argue is that its simulated violence and REAL nudity. Id honestly rather have my kid watch Rambo than Shortbus. There is less likely a chnace he will simulate what he saw in Rambo than in the other film. Nudity hurts no one.
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Post by Halloween King on Feb 10, 2011 16:53:32 GMT -5
I have to say im all for censoring swear words. When I was a child I did not really know what most swear words meant. So Censoring swear words to protect kiddies seems fine to me.
What I do dislike is being censored on these forums. I've never really used cuss words on here but I have stated my Opinions on a few threads only to have them deleted. From what I understand my posts were deleted because I was....... IDK? I can only guess they weren't liked by whoever has the task of being a mod on here. My posts being deleted and the warnings I see posted on here make me cautious when ever I post anything now. It makes me fear I'll be banned from here which I seriously do not want to happen.
I love these forums and dont really come on here to troll or to fight with anyone. That said I have to also say the censorship on these forums seems a little too much.
I mean I could see if they were censoring out cuss words. But deleting someones posts because you dont agree? Really? Wow that's going to far IMHO.
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Post by hollywoodscene on Feb 10, 2011 17:00:37 GMT -5
What people fail to argue is that its simulated violence and REAL nudity. Id honestly rather have my kid watch Rambo than Shortbus. There is less likely a chnace he will simulate what he saw in Rambo than in the other film. Nudity hurts no one. In that argument, neither does watching simulated violence.
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Post by slappy on Feb 10, 2011 17:08:01 GMT -5
In that argument, neither does watching simulated violence. True.
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 11, 2011 0:51:36 GMT -5
In that argument, neither does watching simulated violence. If this country didn't have such a problem with shootings in schools, I might be quicker to agree with you. With either nudity or violence, the person watching should have a certain level of maturity, especially in the violence aspect. ...but I don't even know how you can argue that seeing a pair of breasts is worse than seeing someone get their head brutally bashed in.
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Post by hollywoodscene on Feb 11, 2011 14:41:13 GMT -5
In that argument, neither does watching simulated violence. If this country didn't have such a problem with shootings in schools, I might be quicker to agree with you. With either nudity or violence, the person watching should have a certain level of maturity, especially in the violence aspect. ...but I don't even know how you can argue that seeing a pair of breasts is worse than seeing someone get their head brutally bashed in. heres how I'll argue it. This is from personal experience. If i hadn't seen so many perfect breasts in movies and such my standards for how a womans body would look wouldn't be so extreme, same goes for many people. Plus even now I doubt my girlfriend is particularly thrilled when we see a movie and naked women are running around, same goes for me with all these movies that think a dick needs to be in all of them now. Also shootings etc have been proven to have no links whatsoever to video games or movies. The violence is simulated. If it was real murders like snuff film stuff I would be just as appalled-more so even than nudity. All these porn and torrent sites get shut down yet stuff like rotten.com remain afloat is disgusting to me. Fake Violence=Cool Real Violence=Disgusting Nudity=Awesome, but lets keep it out of everyday everything.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Feb 12, 2011 1:29:06 GMT -5
What Mole said. Seriously, if you don't like it, there's the door. We have to abide by ProBoards rules first, or the site gets shut down. Secondly, we have our own rules, which are in place because we have an extremely high population of under 18 users. Most of you were kids when you signed up here, even if you are an adult now. Sure, you're more grown up, but not everyone here has. And can you not communicate with others without cursing? It shows a lack of maturity and intelligence if you can't, and yet you want to be considered an adult? Words to live by there, buddy. Leave well enough alone.
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Post by slappy on Feb 12, 2011 11:03:15 GMT -5
If this country didn't have such a problem with shootings in schools, I might be quicker to agree with you. With either nudity or violence, the person watching should have a certain level of maturity, especially in the violence aspect. ...but I don't even know how you can argue that seeing a pair of breasts is worse than seeing someone get their head brutally bashed in. heres how I'll argue it. This is from personal experience. If i hadn't seen so many perfect breasts in movies and such my standards for how a womans body would look wouldn't be so extreme, same goes for many people. Plus even now I doubt my girlfriend is particularly thrilled when we see a movie and naked women are running around, same goes for me with all these movies that think a dick needs to be in all of them now. Also shootings etc have been proven to have no links whatsoever to video games or movies. The violence is simulated. If it was real murders like snuff film stuff I would be just as appalled-more so even than nudity. All these porn and torrent sites get shut down yet stuff like rotten.com remain afloat is disgusting to me. Fake Violence=Cool Real Violence=Disgusting Nudity=Awesome, but lets keep it out of everyday everything. Because you are shallow the rest of us have to live under some sort of strict censorship?
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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 12, 2011 18:26:54 GMT -5
If this country didn't have such a problem with shootings in schools, I might be quicker to agree with you. With either nudity or violence, the person watching should have a certain level of maturity, especially in the violence aspect. ...but I don't even know how you can argue that seeing a pair of breasts is worse than seeing someone get their head brutally bashed in. heres how I'll argue it. This is from personal experience. If i hadn't seen so many perfect breasts in movies and such my standards for how a womans body would look wouldn't be so extreme, same goes for many people. Plus even now I doubt my girlfriend is particularly thrilled when we see a movie and naked women are running around, same goes for me with all these movies that think a dick needs to be in all of them now. Also shootings etc have been proven to have no links whatsoever to video games or movies. The violence is simulated. If it was real murders like snuff film stuff I would be just as appalled-more so even than nudity. All these porn and torrent sites get shut down yet stuff like rotten.com remain afloat is disgusting to me. Fake Violence=Cool Real Violence=Disgusting Nudity=Awesome, but lets keep it out of everyday everything. ...so you're telling me that movies influenced you to look at women a certain way, but movies cannot influence someone to be violent? If seeing some swingin' boobies got in your subconscious that bad, you honestly believe gore filled movies can't have the same effect for the sole reason that it's simulated? Riiiiiiight.
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Post by hollywoodscene on Feb 13, 2011 11:41:47 GMT -5
Find me proof of violence in movies ever causing violence in real life.
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Post by slappy on Feb 13, 2011 12:00:50 GMT -5
Find me proof of violence in movies ever causing violence in real life. I don't believe he is saying it does. I think he's saying that you think nudity corrupts but the violence doesn't, how could that be. Neither hurts in my opinion.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Feb 13, 2011 12:15:22 GMT -5
lol f word belt buckle
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