The Boglin
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Post by The Boglin on Jul 4, 2011 12:24:59 GMT -5
I will never in my life get why hardcore holly gets so much hate. I always loved his work in the ring, and she seemed to get better with age. Loved his match with RVD. During the attitude era he didn't mind sacrificing his body in hardcore matches and his gimmic was a badass redneck, sorta like Stone Cold. Now I understand he shouldn't of been as big as Steve Austin but I just don't get why he seems so hated.
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Post by done on Jul 4, 2011 12:28:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I wanna know this too, I loved it when he team with Crash Holly(who was 400lbs lol)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 15:12:43 GMT -5
Hardcore Holly is a legend end of . I didnt hear of any hate? I am dissapointed to be told this
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Rob7274
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Post by Rob7274 on Jul 4, 2011 15:25:31 GMT -5
Yeah Ive always liked him.
Heard he worked really stiff in-ring though especailly on newcomers.
Not the greatest guy outside the ring (rumor) but I always liked his work and image.
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Arik Cannon
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Post by Arik Cannon on Jul 4, 2011 16:59:05 GMT -5
I thought he was boring . Plus after hearing all the bad things about him and how he was basically a bully backstage and a dick to fans it affected how I felt about him. Same thing goes for JBL.
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The Boglin
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Post by The Boglin on Jul 4, 2011 17:18:07 GMT -5
He's actually pretty cool to fans, thats another good rumor about him that isn't true
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 18:54:37 GMT -5
nevber minded Holly in the ring but his backstage antics are a different story..... take Public Enemy in WWF for instance......Holly and JBL(who viewed themselves as Vince loyalists  was bisch after them?NO.)took it upon themselves to harass Public Enemy because they signed with WCW in 95 instead of WWF.of course it was nothing to do with Holly and JBL wanting to hold onto their tag positions.......and who could blame PE?they went for nearly twice the cash. cue PEs push being diminished and eliminated.it should be noted they tried similar tactics with the Dudleys but by that time Vince knew he needed to jizz up the tag division with new guys. pity he didnt wake the  up when PE were getting harrassed.and yes this story has been confirmed by guys who liked and disliked PE. |
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Post by candygallows on Jul 4, 2011 20:09:53 GMT -5
I liked Hardcore Holly
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 4, 2011 23:27:57 GMT -5
The guy was always average in the ring IMO. And him being a total jackass for real didn't do him any favors. He literally beat the crap out of Rene Dupree for real and his broken neck from Brock Lesnar was just as much his fault as it was Lesnars, considering that Holly purposly dead-weighted him.
In the backstage, he was known as a bully and was eventually fired for stealing things from the other guys. He was also given a shot at the main event w/ his feud w/ Lesnar for the WWE Title in 2003/2004 and bombed horribly. Holly is not a legend.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Jul 5, 2011 1:06:29 GMT -5
The guy was always average in the ring IMO. And him being a total jackass for real didn't do him any favors. He literally beat the crap out of Rene Dupree for real and his broken neck from Brock Lesnar was just as much his fault as it was Lesnars, considering that Holly purposly dead-weighted him.
In the backstage, he was known as a bully and was eventually fired for stealing things from the other guys. He was also given a shot at the main event w/ his feud w/ Lesnar for the WWE Title in 2003/2004 and bombed horribly. Holly is not a legend. That sums it up. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 5, 2011 3:43:48 GMT -5
Persona:
Zero charisma. Poor mic skills. Average, at best, in the ring. It also didn't help him to have poor gimmicks.
Real-life:
Overly truculent. Stupid enough to actually try to shoot on Brock Lesnar.
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Post by steel on Jul 5, 2011 8:21:56 GMT -5
I used to think that he was a jerk back in the day with his handling of new guys.
However, I look now at some of the new guys and their immediate expectations of greatness without paying dues-let's take Any from NXT for example.
Now, years later, I see he was actually ahead of his time, making the new jacks pay their dues prior to acceptance in a business that is built on hard work and proving your self as a draw.
He took the business personally and maybe if more followed suit it would be in a better place now.
Good topic, thanks for posting this.
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 5, 2011 11:02:18 GMT -5
He wasn't bad in the ring apart from being stiff, just not the best out of the ring!
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 5, 2011 14:13:36 GMT -5
Meh, never loved him and never hated him, infact I actually kinda liked him in 99/00, he had some of the most exciting hardcore matches ever.
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Rob7274
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Post by Rob7274 on Jul 5, 2011 15:35:44 GMT -5
The guy was always average in the ring IMO. And him being a total jackass for real didn't do him any favors. He literally beat the crap out of Rene Dupree for real and his broken neck from Brock Lesnar was just as much his fault as it was Lesnars, considering that Holly purposly dead-weighted him.
In the backstage, he was known as a bully and was eventually fired for stealing things from the other guys. He was also given a shot at the main event w/ his feud w/ Lesnar for the WWE Title in 2003/2004 and bombed horribly. Holly is not a legend. That sums it up. Hmmmm I dont like arseholes or bullys....Looks like I may have changed my mind. He does'nt sound nice at all. |
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jul 5, 2011 18:12:07 GMT -5
He wasn't bad in the ring apart from being stiff, just not the best out of the ring! Good way to look at it. I was never his biggest supporter. Even London & Kendrick made him sound like an a$$bag. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 18:17:26 GMT -5
I had forgotten that he sandbagged Lesnar too.....
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Post by Kemp2k on Jul 5, 2011 23:31:25 GMT -5
He had a great mullet.
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Post by sean™ on Jul 5, 2011 23:38:34 GMT -5
I have an interesting story......somewhat offensive, so i apologize for the content matter.
At over the edge 99 in Kansas City, Al Snow and Hardcore Holly had a Hardcore match for the title. As they were making their way up the stairway in the crowd, someone near them began to cheer "HARD-CORE HO-MO". And apparently we were in a festive mood that night, because the next 5 minutes was an arena-wide chant of "HARD-CORE HO-MO."
If I remember, he won.......so I suppose the joke was on us.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jul 6, 2011 0:25:19 GMT -5
The fact he wrestled Brock for the title at the Royal Rumble still makes me laugh.
I guess rewards come from sandbagging.
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