thekaniac
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Post by thekaniac on Aug 12, 2011 13:08:30 GMT -5
I really like the Flashbacks and even though it's obvious they will I hope to see them in the UK.Because you know how Mattel hates the UK and never sends Legends there.But this is the UKs way of getting great legends and awesome past attires of current wrestlers which I would easily take over jobbers....I don't get why people like jobbers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 13:47:35 GMT -5
I really like the Flashbacks and even though it's obvious they will I hope to see them in the UK.Because you know how Mattel hates the UK and never sends Legends there.But this is the UKs way of getting great legends and awesome past attires of current wrestlers which I would easily take over jobbers....I don't get why people like jobbersI dont care if somone wins or loses matchs, if they entertain me, i want their figure. Anyways you cant always have Main event matches, sometimes you need a jobber to beat on altho i would rather legends 100% over currents.... i wouldnt mind some classic jobbers eventually
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Post by 1ultimateman on Aug 12, 2011 14:10:22 GMT -5
Actually, i am okay with the amount of figures because it gives room for 1 legend and a current superstar with a debut look. This i am fine with. The accessories on the other hand, shouldn't be the dumb molded rubber shirt and dull looking belts. I Agree with all this!! If Mattel's going to give us 24 figure a year IMO they should let there be a majority vote Of who should be In Future Lines. Also Give us the Clothe shirts back!!
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 13, 2011 2:42:14 GMT -5
This thread's function is to discuss the future of the Elite figure line from here on out. Please read competely as it is very knowledgeable with current news. The Elite line was originally planned for one wave per month, but since we'll be rounding 2011 off with E12, the Elite line has been trending one set every two months. So 6 series per year, 36 figures per year...but... No it was one wave every other month and they are released every other month. That doen't mean your local stores will have new sets every other month. It mean that they shipped them to the retailers distribution centers. After that it's up to the retailers. No we are still getting the same amount. Just because there's 2 Flashback figures in each wave doesn't mean they aren't counted in the totals. Remember just because YOU only want the current roster there are plenty out there like me who would like 3 Flashbacks per wave as we mainly buy the Legends. Many never cared about the stands (I don't think I ever used one) and Mattel said they needed to cut them to keep the details on the figures. Which they have. The prices are set by the retailers not Mattel. So that the retailers trying to milk as much as they can get out of them. Mattel still charges $15.99 on their website. Shirts - I don't use them but everyone b1tched about them staining the figures. I never liked to use/display them because there were no hems on the sleeves and waist. So they give Orton a rubber shirt and now everyone is complaining about that. And Rey's rubber sleeve-less shirt actually looks much better than they cloth versions they gave HBK & the past Reys. Personally, I would have never given them shirts to begin with as they weren't needed. The belts- Sure some like the WWE and tag tiles look better shiney, but the "duller" shade of gold they've used looks fine. And it's almost perfect for the World title. Not every belt in the WWE should be as shiney as vac-metal makes them. Plus people comlained that only the Elites got them so they give us a Basic 4-pack of belts. Sure it would hvae been nice if they were painted, but again they are Basics which Mattel had originally said wouldn't happen, because they are "Basic". And now we get rubber belts with the details fully molded into them that can curve around the figures waist and has extra set of stems in the back that make it tighter on the smaller guys like Rey & Bourne. Sure it would have been nice it the US belt had the white painted on it and the Would title had the rubys painted red. My main concern as a collector (and I mainly collect Elite) is the limited variability of current character choices in our 24 figures per year (4 new figs/set). There are 50-80 wrestlers on WWE's active roster at any given time, but only 24 FIGURES will be represented throughout the year... and of those 24 we're bound to have doubles, if not triples+ of John Cena's, Rey Mysterio's, and Randy Orton's, etc. So how many CHARACTERS will we actually see per year with these new changes to the Elite line? We'll be seeing less than a quarter of the roster in the Elite series per year with the new rate of production. We are still getting 72 figures planned a year with 60 being modern guys. Guys like Orton, Cena, Rey, Taker, Miz are always going to be there over Hawkin, Ryder, Santino, etc. Because they are the faces of the WWE not the other guys. They are the guys that most people will walk into the stores looking for so they are the guys that the WWE and the retailers are going to want on the pegs. If a Store had 50 figures of either Rey/Cena/ or Orton and another 50 figures of either Ryder or Hawkins on the pegs which figures do you think would move faster with the general public? We aren't the only people who are buying these and there's always new fans every day buying their first figures so there's always going to be more of the main guys. We are still getting highly detailed and high quality figures. Sure things have changed, but they are still highly detailed. And there's still going to be many modern guys released throughout the year for you to purchase. Would I like as detailed titles as possible? Sure and I know some want the accessories, but I'd much rather the cost is still going into the actual figures (scans/tattoos/attire details) and not the accessories as I buy figures because of the figures not the accessories.(shirts/chairs/briefcases) Are you serious, bro? , lol no pun intended. 1. I surmised that the Elite series were 1/month since we got series 1 in January, 2 in February, 3 in March, 4 in April... and then it went down from there... So I'd like to say Mattel started and planned the line to release a wave per month, but once the distribution started sucking everything got backed up. 2. It doesn't matter my figure preferences of current figures or "legends". It doesn't change the fact that a line once devoted entirely to NEW stars will now only be 66% NEW. You're right, I'm not happy about that. It sucks. The glorious Legends line was so amazing that it flopped on its ass, but I'm wrong for wanting the line I've been collecting now for two years to be cut down to 66% of what it was? 3. Just like CM Punk said, "Do I want an ice cream bar with my face on it? You're damn right." Do I want to get what I'm paying for? You're damn right! Mattel's claim to fame when they started the WWE brand was the "display value" of including stands and nametags for each of their figures. Hell, they even released some that played music! The price point for Elites continue to rise (You say Mattel has them for $15.99 if they're even lucky to be in stock- in case you only want shelf-warmers- which used to be $14.99, btw). It's the LEAST Mattel could do to include extra goodies to justify the high price point for Elites. Are a few more points of articulation (which don't even work properly if we're lucky or are loose and break) really worth an extra $5-$8!?! That money is INTENDED to go towards quality accessories, but slowly but surely, they are being cheapened, whether or not you want to admit it. 4. You said "We are still getting 72 figures planned a year with 60 being modern guys". Please explain your math here. Mattel is releasing 1 set every 2 months which is 6 sets per year. 6 sets X 6 figures per set = 36 figures total. 2 of 6 figures per set are not current new figures, so that leaves us with 24 potential "new" figures. Please explain your reasoning behind these because maybe I'm not getting it...
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Post by christianedge on Aug 13, 2011 2:56:20 GMT -5
I think if they put one new addition from the current roster to the elite roster, that'd be good.
I'd like for mattel to end shirts all together, unless they are entrance jackets. Jackets should be done like edge n taker's jackets, but easier to put on and remove.
I'd like to see weapons eventually becoming the accessories for elites.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 4:38:28 GMT -5
I don't think things are so bad with the Elite line. Also, the logic behind the premise of never being able to complete the roster is flawed in that it isn't counting the first 12 series. Mattel has already produced the majority of the roster. If they were just starting in 2012 with this new strategy, it would be different. Also, the "less than a quarter of the roster a year" claim is off. Forgive me for being a bit OCD with the numbers (It's my job to be like this, heheh!)...But, as of today, the current male roster is made up of 51 Superstars. So 24 out of 51 is only barely less than half. I'm not counting Divas because they're made as Basics and I'm discounting the additional TV staff because, let's face it, an Elite Justin Roberts is overkill. I feel that staff characters, like Ranjin Singh and Theodore Long, would be best reserved for the Basics series. Anyway, out of the current 51 Superstars, only 18 haven't been made or announced yet. Even if all of them were going to get made, which I doubt, this falls well within the 24 available slots for 2012 alone. At this point, Mattel should be able to keep up with any new acquisitions. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a third slot is allocated to Flashback figures by 2013. I'd rather get more Legends than unnecessary multiples of Cena/Orton/Undertaker. Regarding skimping out on accessories, I feel that some people are over-reacting about the belts. So far, the only dull belts in the Elite series are the WHC and the WWE Championship. On both occasions, Bill has already stated why they weren't vac-metalized and, to me, they were sound and acceptable business decisions. Also, both of those belts were already made available in their full, shiny, vac-metalized glory so we didn't lose out on anything. Granted, if you spent $50 on the TLC playset just for the shiny WHC, that's excessive. Bill already told us that this belt will be appearing again in future sets, though, so it's not like we missed our chance. Be patient; It took a year to get championship belts and they are amazingly well done...Even the dull ones! Until the first figures with rubber shirts arrive, and I have a chance to see and test the final product, I'm not going to worry about them. Yes, the cloth shirts are cool but, honestly, I keep all my figures' shirts in a Ziploc bag. I can't display them wearing their gear for fear of permanently staining them. I'll only bring out the shirts for some quick pics and then put them back in the storage bag. Also, all the shirts I have are frayed or rough on the edges. If Mattel solves this by making rubber shirts that won't stain the figures, while still looking crisp and clean, can you really call it cheapening out on us? I think it's fair to see how this actually turns out before going on the offensive about it. Finally, here's my take on the issue of rising costs; It's going to happen! Ever hear old people talking about gas being less than a dollar a gallon and soda costing a nickel? Well, it's our turn now. Anyone still remember 99¢ Whoppers, new video games at $29.99, or when 3.75" scale figures only cost $3? Well, guess what? The next generation will be dealing with action figures that will cost $30+ each! Hey, some of our European members are already dealing with those type of prices for their WWE collection...And they still want more than just 2 figures per series!In conclusion, I'm not worried that it's all going downhill. Basic figures are now getting belts and accessories, Legends are being incorporated into Elite and Basic Heritage lines, headsculpts are getting better and better, we're still getting lots of accessories in the Elite series, and the MDT is actually interacting with us a lot on this forum. There's a lot to be grateful for and Mattel is still making great WWE figures for us! Same thing here in Australia, I'm kinda dissapointed with those points, I would rather that Mattel just release about 12 legends on MattyCollecter.com, rather then in the Elite line, as well as the fact that a few on this board don't collect legends. Overall, dissapointing, but hey, their just toys.
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Post by PJ on Aug 13, 2011 5:25:01 GMT -5
No it was one wave every other month and they are released every other month. That doen't mean your local stores will have new sets every other month. It mean that they shipped them to the retailers distribution centers. After that it's up to the retailers. No we are still getting the same amount. Just because there's 2 Flashback figures in each wave doesn't mean they aren't counted in the totals. Remember just because YOU only want the current roster there are plenty out there like me who would like 3 Flashbacks per wave as we mainly buy the Legends. Many never cared about the stands (I don't think I ever used one) and Mattel said they needed to cut them to keep the details on the figures. Which they have. The prices are set by the retailers not Mattel. So that the retailers trying to milk as much as they can get out of them. Mattel still charges $15.99 on their website. Shirts - I don't use them but everyone b1tched about them staining the figures. I never liked to use/display them because there were no hems on the sleeves and waist. So they give Orton a rubber shirt and now everyone is complaining about that. And Rey's rubber sleeve-less shirt actually looks much better than they cloth versions they gave HBK & the past Reys. Personally, I would have never given them shirts to begin with as they weren't needed. The belts- Sure some like the WWE and tag tiles look better shiney, but the "duller" shade of gold they've used looks fine. And it's almost perfect for the World title. Not every belt in the WWE should be as shiney as vac-metal makes them. Plus people comlained that only the Elites got them so they give us a Basic 4-pack of belts. Sure it would hvae been nice if they were painted, but again they are Basics which Mattel had originally said wouldn't happen, because they are "Basic". And now we get rubber belts with the details fully molded into them that can curve around the figures waist and has extra set of stems in the back that make it tighter on the smaller guys like Rey & Bourne. Sure it would have been nice it the US belt had the white painted on it and the Would title had the rubys painted red. We are still getting 72 figures planned a year with 60 being modern guys. Guys like Orton, Cena, Rey, Taker, Miz are always going to be there over Hawkin, Ryder, Santino, etc. Because they are the faces of the WWE not the other guys. They are the guys that most people will walk into the stores looking for so they are the guys that the WWE and the retailers are going to want on the pegs. If a Store had 50 figures of either Rey/Cena/ or Orton and another 50 figures of either Ryder or Hawkins on the pegs which figures do you think would move faster with the general public? We aren't the only people who are buying these and there's always new fans every day buying their first figures so there's always going to be more of the main guys. We are still getting highly detailed and high quality figures. Sure things have changed, but they are still highly detailed. And there's still going to be many modern guys released throughout the year for you to purchase. Would I like as detailed titles as possible? Sure and I know some want the accessories, but I'd much rather the cost is still going into the actual figures (scans/tattoos/attire details) and not the accessories as I buy figures because of the figures not the accessories.(shirts/chairs/briefcases) Are you serious, bro? , lol no pun intended. 1. I surmised that the Elite series were 1/month since we got series 1 in January, 2 in February, 3 in March, 4 in April... and then it went down from there... So I'd like to say Mattel started and planned the line to release a wave per month, but once the distribution started sucking everything got backed up. 2. It doesn't matter my figure preferences of current figures or "legends". It doesn't change the fact that a line once devoted entirely to NEW stars will now only be 66% NEW. You're right, I'm not happy about that. It sucks. The glorious Legends line was so amazing that it flopped on its ass, but I'm wrong for wanting the line I've been collecting now for two years to be cut down to 66% of what it was? 3. Just like CM Punk said, "Do I want an ice cream bar with my face on it? You're damn right." Do I want to get what I'm paying for? You're damn right! Mattel's claim to fame when they started the WWE brand was the "display value" of including stands and nametags for each of their figures. Hell, they even released some that played music! The price point for Elites continue to rise (You say Mattel has them for $15.99 if they're even lucky to be in stock- in case you only want shelf-warmers- which used to be $14.99, btw). It's the LEAST Mattel could do to include extra goodies to justify the high price point for Elites. Are a few more points of articulation (which don't even work properly if we're lucky or are loose and break) really worth an extra $5-$8!?! That money is INTENDED to go towards quality accessories, but slowly but surely, they are being cheapened, whether or not you want to admit it. 4. You said "We are still getting 72 figures planned a year with 60 being modern guys". Please explain your math here. Mattel is releasing 1 set every 2 months which is 6 sets per year. 6 sets X 6 figures per set = 36 figures total. 2 of 6 figures per set are not current new figures, so that leaves us with 24 potential "new" figures. Please explain your reasoning behind these because maybe I'm not getting it... So sue me my math was wrong. ;D (I seriously don't know what I was thinking there lol) But anyway before the first figures ever hit retail. Mattel had said in a Lee's magazine Elites would be released every other month. So yeah THAT'S what the game plan was. With your logic we should we expect 3 Basics series a Month, because Jan 2010 I found Basic series 1, 2 & WMH all on the pegs. That was never their gamplan. They were pumped out faster in the first few months because they already had them produced and ready to go for once Jan hit. (Hell I found Series 1 at TRU before Jan hit) I love your F@ck off to everyone else's attitude. Some of us only liked the Legends which was dropped. So yeah I too want my figures that I was collecting for 2 years. You are still getting 4 modern guys to my 2 Legends. (which aren't really Legends) Now I may be wrong here, but what I'm reading from you is you don't care that we lost our Legends you just want your figures and could give a rat's @$$ about all of use who also have been collecting for 2 years and lost our core Legends line. (Legends & EG) DM isn't a true Legends line as a Modern HBK and Cena are in it. So that tell's me there will be more Modern guys in that series as well. After the first 3 or 4 series the Elites line was never going to release 6 new wrestlers each series. After that you might get 1 or 2 in a set, but there's always going to be repaints of the "Big" guys as that's who the WWE wants on the pegs and that's who the retailers want on the pegs. Look at Elite 5 with the exception of Rey that was all new "mid-card" guys and that Series (minus Rey) still sits at TRU & WalMart (Target just got rid of theire on clearance) There's a WalMart about an hour north of me that the last time I was there still had 10 Series 4 Finley figures on the pegs mixed in with a few Series 8 Regal & Bourne figures. Not everyone on the roster is going to sell. In the long run who do you think your local TRU will sell out of quicker? 100 Rey's (Someone I personally don't like) or 100 Hawkins? (someone people on this board keep asking for) Retailers don't care if there's pegwarmers as long as they are familiar characters that they know will move over the year. Why should Mattel add more to the figures and blow their budget? It they were to do that then there'd be no more Elite line. They dropped the bases to keep the production costs the same while keeping the figures at the same level of detail. The MSRP is $14.99 or $15.99 that is what Mattel puts them on their website at. They have no control what TRU/Target/WalMart set the prices at. I'd rather get a fully deco-ed figure with a dull painted belt over a figure that missing logos on the back so he can come with shiny belt and a base and name-tag that I'd never use. And I would think everyone would rather that as well. Am I wrong about that? People sit there and say how much does it cost to throw such and such into a package? Well, they aren't factoring in the labor & operation cost need to stitch the shirts together, print the tags, and everything else needed to produce those items. That all costs and needs to be factored into their budgets. And if they did that they'd need a higher budget to produce them which would mean a higher MSRP which would mean TRU/Target/WalMart would also raise their prices more as they'd need to recoup that money to run their business and keep their profit margins where they're at.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 9:25:55 GMT -5
All In All, Mattels Popularity Grows Everytime One Kid or Adult walks into a Store and Says "Holy crap! A Sheamus Figure... now i dont collect these but i gotta have Sheamus" then later thinks " Well I Have Sheamus But i gotta Have someone Sheamus can Fight, Maybe ill go buy.... "
Maybe now its only 4 Elites, 2 Flashbacks but next year i'll be willing to bet it will be a different story one way or another. The Way Mattel Handles and Handled Legends i Dont see much good in the future of those but im betting elites will be doing fine.
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Post by thekaniac on Aug 13, 2011 10:09:24 GMT -5
I really like the Flashbacks and even though it's obvious they will I hope to see them in the UK.Because you know how Mattel hates the UK and never sends Legends there.But this is the UKs way of getting great legends and awesome past attires of current wrestlers which I would easily take over jobbers....I don't get why people like jobbersI dont care if somone wins or loses matchs, if they entertain me, i want their figure. Anyways you cant always have Main event matches, sometimes you need a jobber to beat on altho i would rather legends 100% over currents.... i wouldnt mind some classic jobbers eventually You have a point and if it wasn't for mr Cena changing his attire 24 damn 7 we would get more jobbers lol
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Post by jfinnomore on Aug 13, 2011 10:50:45 GMT -5
the title of this thread says good read, that couldn't be further from the truth. there is no pleasing some of you guys i swear.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 11:59:43 GMT -5
the title of this thread says good read, that couldn't be further from the truth. there is no pleasing some of you guys i swear. Well it started as a good read but slowly went down hill lol... I'm not concerned cuz it will just help my wallet and allow me the time to catch up on the ones I missed... I'm just hoping Trent Baretta is still employed by the WWE for when his fig is gettin released next year ;D
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Post by bkbrawler on Aug 13, 2011 20:54:07 GMT -5
Elites were originally and still are planned for shipment every other month with basics shipping in the months in between. That can vary based on demand, meaning we accelerate or slow that cycle down based on how fast the figs are moving at retail.
As far as Flashbacks go, they are an opportunity to use either legends or current roster wrestlers in a significant outfit or moment in history. Flashbacks address collectors concerns about not getting legendary superstars such as Cane or Taker in past significant personas and matches while they are still on the roster. So current roster superstars will be used in a majority of the flashback slots. In addition, we will be putting a legends fig in most if not every series. Overall we think most elite buyers will like the new mixes.
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Post by BØRNS on Aug 13, 2011 22:05:25 GMT -5
Are you serious, bro? , lol no pun intended. 1. I surmised that the Elite series were 1/month since we got series 1 in January, 2 in February, 3 in March, 4 in April... and then it went down from there... So I'd like to say Mattel started and planned the line to release a wave per month, but once the distribution started sucking everything got backed up. 2. It doesn't matter my figure preferences of current figures or "legends". It doesn't change the fact that a line once devoted entirely to NEW stars will now only be 66% NEW. You're right, I'm not happy about that. It sucks. The glorious Legends line was so amazing that it flopped on its ass, but I'm wrong for wanting the line I've been collecting now for two years to be cut down to 66% of what it was? 3. Just like CM Punk said, "Do I want an ice cream bar with my face on it? You're damn right." Do I want to get what I'm paying for? You're damn right! Mattel's claim to fame when they started the WWE brand was the "display value" of including stands and nametags for each of their figures. Hell, they even released some that played music! The price point for Elites continue to rise (You say Mattel has them for $15.99 if they're even lucky to be in stock- in case you only want shelf-warmers- which used to be $14.99, btw). It's the LEAST Mattel could do to include extra goodies to justify the high price point for Elites. Are a few more points of articulation (which don't even work properly if we're lucky or are loose and break) really worth an extra $5-$8!?! That money is INTENDED to go towards quality accessories, but slowly but surely, they are being cheapened, whether or not you want to admit it. 4. You said "We are still getting 72 figures planned a year with 60 being modern guys". Please explain your math here. Mattel is releasing 1 set every 2 months which is 6 sets per year. 6 sets X 6 figures per set = 36 figures total. 2 of 6 figures per set are not current new figures, so that leaves us with 24 potential "new" figures. Please explain your reasoning behind these because maybe I'm not getting it... So sue me my math was wrong. ;D (I seriously don't know what I was thinking there lol) But anyway before the first figures ever hit retail. Mattel had said in a Lee's magazine Elites would be released every other month. So yeah THAT'S what the game plan was. With your logic we should we expect 3 Basics series a Month, because Jan 2010 I found Basic series 1, 2 & WMH all on the pegs. That was never their gamplan. They were pumped out faster in the first few months because they already had them produced and ready to go for once Jan hit. (Hell I found Series 1 at TRU before Jan hit) I love your F@ck off to everyone else's attitude. Some of us only liked the Legends which was dropped. So yeah I too want my figures that I was collecting for 2 years. You are still getting 4 modern guys to my 2 Legends. (which aren't really Legends) Now I may be wrong here, but what I'm reading from you is you don't care that we lost our Legends you just want your figures and could give a rat's @$$ about all of use who also have been collecting for 2 years and lost our core Legends line. (Legends & EG) DM isn't a true Legends line as a Modern HBK and Cena are in it. So that tell's me there will be more Modern guys in that series as well. After the first 3 or 4 series the Elites line was never going to release 6 new wrestlers each series. After that you might get 1 or 2 in a set, but there's always going to be repaints of the "Big" guys as that's who the WWE wants on the pegs and that's who the retailers want on the pegs. Look at Elite 5 with the exception of Rey that was all new "mid-card" guys and that Series (minus Rey) still sits at TRU & WalMart (Target just got rid of theire on clearance) There's a WalMart about an hour north of me that the last time I was there still had 10 Series 4 Finley figures on the pegs mixed in with a few Series 8 Regal & Bourne figures. Not everyone on the roster is going to sell. In the long run who do you think your local TRU will sell out of quicker? 100 Rey's (Someone I personally don't like) or 100 Hawkins? (someone people on this board keep asking for) Retailers don't care if there's pegwarmers as long as they are familiar characters that they know will move over the year. Why should Mattel add more to the figures and blow their budget? It they were to do that then there'd be no more Elite line. They dropped the bases to keep the production costs the same while keeping the figures at the same level of detail. The MSRP is $14.99 or $15.99 that is what Mattel puts them on their website at. They have no control what TRU/Target/WalMart set the prices at. I'd rather get a fully deco-ed figure with a dull painted belt over a figure that missing logos on the back so he can come with shiny belt and a base and name-tag that I'd never use. And I would think everyone would rather that as well. Am I wrong about that? People sit there and say how much does it cost to throw such and such into a package? Well, they aren't factoring in the labor & operation cost need to stitch the shirts together, print the tags, and everything else needed to produce those items. That all costs and needs to be factored into their budgets. And if they did that they'd need a higher budget to produce them which would mean a higher MSRP which would mean TRU/Target/WalMart would also raise their prices more as they'd need to recoup that money to run their business and keep their profit margins where they're at. PJ, I agree with most of what you're saying and I understand where you're coming from. I'm truly sympathetic to the Legends collectors now that the Legends line will not be in retail and will have significantly less figures available online. I don't understand why the failure of the Legends line at retail will now be negatively affecting the Elite line, which is a successful line (If it ain't broke, don't fix it). The Elite line was intended for new releases, while the Legends line was for obvious past wrestlers. I think both parties (collectors of current and past figures) have been screwed by Mattel's recent decisions, and it's unfortunate because we really liked how Mattel was going.
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Post by Micro on Aug 13, 2011 23:31:36 GMT -5
The Elite line was intended for new releases, while the Legends line was for obvious past wrestlers. I think both parties (collectors of current and past figures) have been screwed by Mattel's recent decisions, and it's unfortunate because we really liked how Mattel was going. As a collector of both Elite & Legends figures, I actually like how Mattel is going with this shift in lineups. Given that Legends are now only available online and 6 per year, I feel that the Flashback figures greatly enhances the Elite line. We've been asking for classic versions of HBK, Undertaker, Kane, Jericho, HHH, etc. only to find out that WWE's policy prevents them from appearing in the Legends line. Now that we can get these figures, I don't see how it's diminishing the line. "But we're only getting 4 current Superstars instead of 6, we're losing out on available slots!" At this point, we're mostly getting repaints/updates with only an occasional debut figure. The roster is nearly complete so the lineups for 2013-2014 might be 90% repaints if nothing changes. I'd rather see Debut Kane, Papa Shango, and more Flashbacks to freshen up the line and give us, as you said, new releases.
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