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Post by carling27 on Aug 17, 2011 18:32:16 GMT -5
He's not that important.
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Post by TurboEddie on Aug 17, 2011 18:40:18 GMT -5
Great idea. I'd like to see Kane win the Royal Rumble and earn that opportunity.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 17, 2011 18:40:46 GMT -5
No, the Rumble is a chance to face a champion, don't change the prize now.
Cena/Rock should not have the title involved.
They could do a a triple threat for the WWE title.
If the World Title can open Mania then the WWE title doesn't have to be in the main event, you could even build a story on the Rumble winner and WWE champion not being in the spotlight for Mania because there champion and Rumble winner, have a big tag match at Elimination Chamber for the right to the main event at Mania with Rumble/WWE champ vs. Cena/Rock.
Give the younger guys like Del Rio, Ziggler etc.. a chance to "main event" Wrestlemania with the WWE title. Show off their talent to those just watching for the Rock and try and get them hooked on the current roster.
Imagine the buy rates with:
Undertaker vs. CM Punk/some returning legend
CM Punk vs. Stone Cold/HHH
World Title match: Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes/Christian/Sheamus (this one needs to be a triple threat)
WWE title: Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Sin Cara (huge for Mexico buy rates)
John Cena vs. The Rock
Space it all with a dodgy divas match, have a tag title and intercontinental/US title matches and your good to go.
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Post by TurboEddie on Aug 17, 2011 18:42:06 GMT -5
The rules don't have to change. The winner could simply state that he'd rather use his opportunity to face The Undertaker.
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Post by extreme on Aug 17, 2011 18:45:45 GMT -5
Firstly, John Cena vs The Rock at WrestleMania 28 MUST be for the WWE Championship - Why? Because any WWE title match under this on the card will be useless. I will be really disappointed if Rock/Cena is for the WWE Champion. There's no need to have this match be a title match. The story behind this feud goes far beyond that of the title. Rock/Hogan didn't need the title. Why should this match be any different? Besides, we all know Rock isn't going to be a full-time wrestler after Mania. That means Cena would have to win the belt and this indirectly spoils who's going to win at WM28 potentially before the match even begins. There is just no point. |
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Post by user9327 on Aug 17, 2011 18:53:40 GMT -5
I was listening to the ‘I Want Wrestling’ Podcast and Dave Lagana came up with an interesting idea for the Royal Rumble 2012 that I’d like to share with you guys and get your thoughts on. Firstly, John Cena vs The Rock at WrestleMania 28 MUST be for the WWE Championship - Why? Because any WWE title match under this on the card will be useless. Secondly, Daniel Bryan has already stated that he will be cashing in his Money in the Bank briefcase at WrestleMania 28 versus whoever the World Heavyweight Champion will be at that time. So, with both RAW and SmackDown’s World title matches already provisionally booked this leaves Royal Rumble 2012 useless? Yes - The Rumble winner could add themselves to either World title match making it a Triple threat, But what about this... How about the winner of the Royal Rumble next year earns the right to face the Undertaker in his final match and has a chance to break the streak. If WWE plan on another 40-Superstar Rumble match this leaves the door open for some fun cameos of past superstars who have faced Undertaker at Mania, we could perhaps see surprise entrants such as Jimmy Snuka, Jake the Snake, Diesel, HBK, Sid, A-Train, Bundy and maybe more. With WWE making the winner someone who they find worthy of wrestling Undertakers final match and maybe even being the guy that breaks the streak. So I thought that was an awesome idea - Not mine, Dave Lagana’s but I would be totally up for it… Royal Rumble 2012 - 40 Superstars with the winner going on to WrestleMania to face the Undertaker in his final ever match. Thoughts? I heard this podcast while doing some work today. It does sound like a really great idea for his last match. Lagana's podcast was pretty good in general. I'm going to subscribe. I also like Smart Wrestling Fan sometimes, but it's waaaaay too long and way too hokey more times than not. |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 17, 2011 19:04:48 GMT -5
It's an interesting idea, but it kind of kills the entire point of the Royal Rumble. I know Undertaker's streak is a big deal, but we're supposed to believe people care more about winning the WWE/World Title than anything else. Winning an opportunity to face Undertaker would make the title matches seem secondary if you have a whole PPV based around it.
Also, let's be honest. Do you really see a ton of people ordering a PPV just to see who will face the Undertaker?
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Aug 17, 2011 19:27:55 GMT -5
It's an interesting idea, but it kind of kills the entire point of the Royal Rumble. I know Undertaker's streak is a big deal, but we're supposed to believe people care more about winning the WWE/World Title than anything else. Winning an opportunity to face Undertaker would make the title matches seem secondary if you have a whole PPV based around it. Also, let's be honest. Do you really see a ton of people ordering a PPV just to see who will face the Undertaker? I think there are only a few people who can justify wanting to face the undertaker more than winning the WWE title and that would be a former champion who can do the whole "I've done everything but this" line, or Ted Dibiase, who's father bought the Undertaker in and has made it his sons legacy to take him out. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 17, 2011 19:34:42 GMT -5
The Rock lost at 3 straight WMs(15,16,17), so it wouldn't be the worst thing ever for Punk to loose 3 in a row, especially to Taker, considering he is 19-0 right now.
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Post by cordless2016 on Aug 17, 2011 19:42:23 GMT -5
I'm actually all for this idea. If they announce before hand that this will be Taker's last match, then the Rumble winner should get the right to choose between a world title shot or the last match of Taker's career. Considering the prestiege of Taker's undefeated streak, it is totally believeable that the possibility of ending the streak in Taker's last match is much bigger than any world title match. Right now I see the top matches at WM28 going as...
WWE Championship - The Rock vs John Cena
World Championship - Daniel Byan vs Randy Orton vs Christian
The Undertaker vs CM Punk or Alberto Del Rio or Kane
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Post by slappy on Aug 17, 2011 19:43:37 GMT -5
I'd love to see Punk vs Taker with Punk being the one to end the streak. Punk doing the whole I don't give a poop character would be awesome against Taker who is so serious all the time. It would just make sense "You ended HBK's career, if you're so confident you'll win at 'Mania you put yours on the line, Deadman" and lo the story writes itself. lol no. I like the idea of the Rumble winner facing Taker. Anybody can be champion. Only one person can break Taker's streak. |
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Post by Barrett on Aug 17, 2011 19:47:54 GMT -5
No because then Punk would be jobbing in his 3rd straight WM. 26 - Rey, 27 - Orton, 28 - Taker. Punk needs to win at WM again. He won 2 straight MITB matches, but since then, has jobbed twice in a row. Which he should never have jobbed to Randy this year, he DOMINATED that match, and for Randy to hit like 2 moves and end it, that was BS. There is a big difference between losing a match and jobbing. Punk has never been jobbed out at WM. As for the idea brought up in the original post, I don't think it's a bad idea. I just don't know how they could bring the idea to fruition on TV, storyline wise. There is no way to guarantee that Bryan won't cash in before or after WM. He has until next July to do so. So I just can't see a way where, come January, they already have the WM main events set in stone to the point of changing the prize of the RR match. |
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Post by bestintheworld on Aug 17, 2011 20:02:10 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of the RR winner facing Taker. Nah!
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Aug 17, 2011 20:09:41 GMT -5
Love this idea.
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Post by jeffro2000 on Aug 17, 2011 20:11:42 GMT -5
I don't see Cena/Rock being for the title. It carries itself on its own. Sure its going to be the main event, but non-title matches have closed W-mania before.
Rumble winner doesn't seem as important now, with all the title changes and defenses. Everyone gets a shot eventually. Del Rio/Edge opened Mania this year.
As for Taker, I don't know who he is fighting if anyone. Nobody on the roster is a threat, except Cena, and Punk now. I see Punk fighting HHH, or something with a McMahon. I don't see this angle ending till then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 20:13:37 GMT -5
I am completely against Rock vs Cena for the title. The next Wrestlemania could be utilized as a way to solidify a few more guys as main eventers. This is what I would like to see:
Cena vs Rock: Obviously the main event. This match is big enough to not need a title.
WWE Title Match - CM Punk vs HHH: Punk goes over on Nash, wins the belt back, then faces a series of returning guys HHH lines up to get the belt back over the next few months. (Jericho, X-Pac, etc.)
World Title - Orton vs Bryan vs Miz: Miz wins the Royal Rumble, then switches brands. Miz getting a cheap win would let Daniel Bryan keep credibility as a potential main eventer and give SD a new direction.
Streak - Undertaker vs Barrett: After losing his feud with Cena then being buried in the midcard, Barrett lost pretty much all of the momentum built up from the great Nexus debut. Ending the Taker's streak would make him a much needed main event caliber guy.
I'm not sure when his contract is up, but Mysterio losing a retirement match against Del Rio would be great for WM.
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Post by Edge618 on Aug 17, 2011 20:20:23 GMT -5
And if they ever did that CM Punk wins and ends the streak. That would be awesome and even though Punk is as over as anyone needs to be to be a top player in WWE for years to come, beating Taker at Mania would just put him above everyone. And it would make sense, as soon as CM Punk started getting hot, i thought to myself, whatever he does at Mania i will be more interested in than Cena vs. Rock. Punk right now is as popular as Cena, Orton, etc, so he needs a big match and Taker would fill it.
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Post by The Assassin on Aug 17, 2011 20:40:05 GMT -5
would be pretty cool i think, but only if they kept it the main focus of the rumble and brought back LOTS of old stars/ex-undertaker-opponents (ones who haven't returned a thousand times before) AND kept them a surprise.
knowing wwe though, they'd barely get anyone, most of them would have only been away from wwe for a few years, and they'd announce them all beforehand.
i miss surprises in wrestling.
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Post by awesome on Aug 17, 2011 20:47:46 GMT -5
It sounds awesome!
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Post by S on Aug 17, 2011 20:52:20 GMT -5
With all the Rock / Cena stuff going on, i just dont see Taker retiring this year... he'll either have a match this year and next year, just next year, or miraculously he will be able to get to health to continue wrestling a little longer.
I just think that Taker's retirement needs to be the highlight of which ever wrestlemania it will be at, and i dont see WWE doing it the same night as something like Rock / Cena which could steal the spotlight
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