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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 16:44:57 GMT -5
I can't think of a better choice to be part of a children's line of toys than a man that murdered his own child.
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 16:58:26 GMT -5
I can't think of a better choice to be part of a children's line of toys than a man that murdered his own child. Really? How about a collectable line of serial killer figures such as Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez? If murderabilia collectors can get figures of those flakes then Chris Benoit can have a figure. To judge a man only by the way he ended things in his most distressed state of mind instead of remembering the joyful life that he actually lead and used to bring millions of fans entertainment is just stupid. People snap. It was tragic and I don't condone or support what he did but I refuse to believe that the Chris Benoit who won the championship and hoisted his son on his shoulders is the same Chris Benoit who murdered him. Obviously the man was mentally ill and if we can't condem inmates who have done far worse then I don't see why we should judge Benoit by his greatest failing.
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 17:45:21 GMT -5
I can't think of a better choice to be part of a children's line of toys than a man that murdered his own child. Really? How about a collectable line of serial killer figures such as Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez? If murderabilia collectors can get figures of those flakes then Chris Benoit can have a figure. To judge a man only by the way he ended things in his most distressed state of mind instead of remembering the joyful life that he actually lead and used to bring millions of fans entertainment is just stupid. People snap. It was tragic and I don't condone or support what he did but I refuse to believe that the Chris Benoit who won the championship and hoisted his son on his shoulders is the same Chris Benoit who murdered him. Obviously the man was mentally ill and if we can't condem inmates who have done far worse then I don't see why we should judge Benoit by his greatest failing. It's not like the guy stole a pack of gum, or even did something more serious like rob a bank. He murdered his wife and his seven year old child. It's not like OJ where we are 99% percent sure he did it, it's been proven that he did it. I agree the guy was one of the greatest grapplers of his time--maybe of all time--but to commemorate him like that to me is irresponsible. Murdering a little boy kind of erases the slate for me. Who knows, maybe I'm off here. And who says we can't condemn inmates that have done worse?
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 18:03:10 GMT -5
Really? How about a collectable line of serial killer figures such as Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez? If murderabilia collectors can get figures of those flakes then Chris Benoit can have a figure. To judge a man only by the way he ended things in his most distressed state of mind instead of remembering the joyful life that he actually lead and used to bring millions of fans entertainment is just stupid. People snap. It was tragic and I don't condone or support what he did but I refuse to believe that the Chris Benoit who won the championship and hoisted his son on his shoulders is the same Chris Benoit who murdered him. Obviously the man was mentally ill and if we can't condem inmates who have done far worse then I don't see why we should judge Benoit by his greatest failing. It's not like the guy stole a pack of gum, or even did something more serious like rob a bank. He murdered his wife and his seven year old child. It's not like OJ where we are 99% percent sure he did it, it's been proven that he did it. I agree the guy was one of the greatest grapplers of his time--maybe of all time--but to commemorate him like that to me is irresponsible. Murdering a little boy kind of erases the slate for me. Who knows, maybe I'm off here. And who says we can't condemn inmates that have done worse? You can't condemn inmates that have murdered someone when they are proven to be insane. They are ruled unfit for trial and usually wind up in mental institutions. Benoit was known as a devoted family man who loved his wife and son. Clearly the Benoit that murdered his wife and child was not the same man. It was proven that he suffered numerous brain injuries which likely resulted in his change in behavior. I honestly don't believe he could have controlled himself. You can't when you are mentally ill. That is the difference between murderers like Bundy and Benoit. Bundy did it for kicks. Benoit snapped. The difference is intent. However as we disagree I feel that if this conversation were to continue that we should take it to PMs to preserve this thread and keep it on topic. Or we could simply agree to disagree.
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 18:08:05 GMT -5
Yes we will agree to disagree, as I believe a murderer is a murderer no matter the mind set. But how about dem Rumblers!
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 18:38:41 GMT -5
Yes we will agree to disagree, as I believe a murderer is a murderer no matter the mind set. But how about dem Rumblers! Yeah. Those Rumblers. I don't actually own any but if they made legends, who are the only figures I collect since I have a distaste for modern 'wrestling, I would be all over it.
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Post by nibs92 on Sept 30, 2011 18:57:36 GMT -5
if a three pack was made of Ax, Smash, and Macho Man, all looking good.. I'd buy it if it was a three pack for me it would be either Ax Smash and Crush or Ax Smash and Fuji
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 20:33:59 GMT -5
Yes we will agree to disagree, as I believe a murderer is a murderer no matter the mind set. But how about dem Rumblers! Yeah. Those Rumblers. I don't actually own any but if they made legends, who are the only figures I collect since I have a distaste for modern 'wrestling, I would be all over it. Agreed. I dig the concept of the Rumblers, but as a player of action figures, I'd like them to be more playable. It's kind of a bust to buy an Edge that perpetually preps the Spear. However, I'd totally get my feet wet with a Razor Ramone Rumbler. Heck, the alliteration alone begs for a buy!
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 21:00:46 GMT -5
Yeah. Those Rumblers. I don't actually own any but if they made legends, who are the only figures I collect since I have a distaste for modern 'wrestling, I would be all over it. Agreement at last! I dig the concept of the Rumblers, but as a player of action figures, I'd like them to be more playable. It's kind of a bust to buy an Edge that perpetually preps the Spear. However, I'd totally get my feet wet with a Razor Ramone Rumbler. Heck, the alliteration alone begs for a buy!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 30, 2011 21:20:16 GMT -5
Really? How about a collectable line of serial killer figures such as Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez? If murderabilia collectors can get figures of those flakes then Chris Benoit can have a figure. Sure. If a company's putting out figures of murderers for fans of the macabre, Benoit's absolutely fair game like Dahmer and co. But for a mainstream company like Mattel making WWE toys aimed at the mainstream market, it's not gonna happen. No. Thinking some wrestling matches are more important than murdering a woman and little boy, that's stupid. The rest of your post suggests otherwise. So who did it, his evil twin? Because murdering a woman and little boy is a bigger deal than how many stars Meltzer gives you in his newsletter. And furthermore, all those times he got dropped on his head to excite you? All the drugs he took to be the wrestler that you liked watching? That is how he became deranged. His lifestyle, his performances, they led to his kill frenzy. And even if we're the sort of idiots who think wrestling matches trump murder, we'd have to be absolute morons to think high-profile companies like WWE and Mattel should share that opinion and make toys of him. Pros of Mattel making a cute little Chris Benoit Rumbler:-Appeals to a few maladjusted creepy weirdos on the Internet who think murdering a little boy is fine as long as you did a good German suplex. Cons of Mattel making a cute little Chris Benoit Rumbler:-Untold amounts of bad press for both companies for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -People boycott the WWE Mattel line for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -People boycott everything both WWE and Mattel do separately for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -Childrens charities campaign against WWE and Mattel for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -Both companies lose a ton of respect and trust from parents. -Benoit's family (the ones he didn't kill, anyway) are upset because the Rumbler has more personality and charisma than the actual man did.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 21:29:42 GMT -5
What the is a Chris Benoit? I'd want a Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt. But we will not get Mattel Hogan's so I'll settle for crying myself to sleep.
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Sept 30, 2011 21:41:39 GMT -5
What the is a Chris Benoit? I'd want a Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt. But we will not get Mattel Hogan's so I'll settle for crying myself to sleep. Ha! Nice one.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 30, 2011 22:11:04 GMT -5
I'd want a Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt. But we will not get Mattel Hogan's so I'll settle for crying myself to sleep. Don't be so sure about that. Hulkster might be back in the WWE family by WrestleMania time. I think we'll get some Hogan figures by late 2012 or 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 22:17:27 GMT -5
I'd want a Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt. But we will not get Mattel Hogan's so I'll settle for crying myself to sleep. Don't be so sure about that. Hulkster might be back in the WWE family by WrestleMania time. I think we'll get some Hogan figures by late 2012 or 2013. I want to believe it, but I'm not convinced he's leaving TNA
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 22:52:33 GMT -5
Really? How about a collectable line of serial killer figures such as Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Ramirez? If murderabilia collectors can get figures of those flakes then Chris Benoit can have a figure. Sure. If a company's putting out figures of murderers for fans of the macabre, Benoit's absolutely fair game like Dahmer and co. But for a mainstream company like Mattel making WWE toys aimed at the mainstream market, it's not gonna happen. No. Thinking some wrestling matches are more important than murdering a woman and little boy, that's stupid. The rest of your post suggests otherwise. So who did it, his evil twin? Because murdering a woman and little boy is a bigger deal than how many stars Meltzer gives you in his newsletter. And furthermore, all those times he got dropped on his head to excite you? All the drugs he took to be the wrestler that you liked watching? That is how he became deranged. His lifestyle, his performances, they led to his kill frenzy. And even if we're the sort of idiots who think wrestling matches trump murder, we'd have to be absolute morons to think high-profile companies like WWE and Mattel should share that opinion and make toys of him. Pros of Mattel making a cute little Chris Benoit Rumbler:-Appeals to a few maladjusted creepy weirdos on the Internet who think murdering a little boy is fine as long as you did a good German suplex. Cons of Mattel making a cute little Chris Benoit Rumbler:-Untold amounts of bad press for both companies for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -People boycott the WWE Mattel line for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -People boycott everything both WWE and Mattel do separately for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -Childrens charities campaign against WWE and Mattel for putting out a childrens toy of a child-murderer. -Both companies lose a ton of respect and trust from parents. -Benoit's family (the ones he didn't kill, anyway) are upset because the Rumbler has more personality and charisma than the actual man did. I didn't mean to suggest that the matches were more important than a boys life. I meant that it seems a pity to judge someone on one particular tragic ending then for the sum of the rest of their life work. It wasn't like Chris was some sort of murdering maniac his entire life. He snapped. I would rather remember Benoit for the great wrestler that he was then to dwell on the murderous ending and allow that tragedy that could not be controlled over shadow his stellar career. I realize that not everyone shares my opinion. That is fine. Like I said in another post we will simply have to agree to disagree. Speaking of the Benoit family however I would also love to see a Woman figure. I mean we have a Sensational Sherri and other managers and it would be neat to have her too. Although I am sure that the fact she is a victim of murder and not the actual murderer will prevent a figure being made of her too darn it. -_-'
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 22:54:52 GMT -5
Don't be so sure about that. Hulkster might be back in the WWE family by WrestleMania time. I think we'll get some Hogan figures by late 2012 or 2013. I want to believe it, but I'm not convinced he's leaving TNA One can only hope he leaves. I am NOT a Hogan fan by any stretch of the imagination but I am an Eric Bischoff fangirl and with Hogan the camera hog out of the way the road will be paved for more Bischoff screen time.
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 23:00:36 GMT -5
Yeah. Those Rumblers. I don't actually own any but if they made legends, who are the only figures I collect since I have a distaste for modern 'wrestling, I would be all over it. Agreement at last! I dig the concept of the Rumblers, but as a player of action figures, I'd like them to be more playable. It's kind of a bust to buy an Edge that perpetually preps the Spear. However, I'd totally get my feet wet with a Razor Ramone Rumbler. Heck, the alliteration alone begs for a buy! Yes! A Razor Ramone would be sweet! I just wish that instead of using his typical Razor gear that we could get a figure of him with what I call his 'Tony Montana' suit ala this clip...
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Post by Gangrel-Brood on Sept 30, 2011 23:21:52 GMT -5
Want: WFers to stop coming onto threads involving Rumblers in the title just to say they're a waste of plastic and that they hate them.
Oh, and Gangrel.
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Post by cocacolabottle on Sept 30, 2011 23:25:04 GMT -5
Rumblers > Flexforce FTW!
Rumblers might not be the prettiest figures but we haven't had micro figures in quite some time. FlexForce on the other hand is a serious waste of plastic. I don't see how they can make those instead of focusing all that time, money and talent towards working on a better Legends line.
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Oct 1, 2011 0:22:42 GMT -5
if a three pack was made of Ax, Smash, and Macho Man, all looking good.. I'd buy it if it was a three pack for me it would be either Ax Smash and Crush or Ax Smash and Fuji Ok so they did the 3 packs at walmart right. And they did what two or three of them. So here is an idea Ax,Smash,Master Fuji - Demolition Hawk,Animal,Paul Ellering - Legion Of Doom And either of these Honkytonk Man,Greg Valentine,Jimmy Hart - Rythem & Blues Andre the Giant,Haku,Bobby Heenan - Colossal Connection Brian Knobs,Jerry Sags,Jimmy Hart - Nasty Boys Davey Boy Smith,Dynamite Kid,Captain Lou Albano - British Bulldogs Bret Hart,Jim Neidhart,Jimmy Hart - Hart Foundation Big Bossman,Akeem,Slick - Twin Towers Warlord,Barbarian,Mr. Fuji - Powers of Pain
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