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Post by Jaz on Apr 10, 2012 12:15:06 GMT -5
Last night on Raw we had a WWE title match between Punk and Mark Henry, but yet for our main event we had John Cena vs. David Otunga. This really annoys me. What are your thoughts on this?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 12:22:51 GMT -5
Can't agree more... I couldn't believe that Cena and Otunga were the main event last night.
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Post by B-Radimus Prime on Apr 10, 2012 12:23:49 GMT -5
For title matches to mean anything, the actual titles have to mean something. So no, they don't mean anything anymore.
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Post by LtD73 on Apr 10, 2012 12:28:46 GMT -5
WWE Title lost it's value when it stopped being the final match on ppv cards regularly, It sure as hell isn't gonna be the main event at Extreme Rules
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Apr 10, 2012 12:30:36 GMT -5
Cena/Otunga was the main event just so Lesnar could be the last one seen on RAW.
Although, Jericho pouring beer all over Punk in the ring would of been a cool way to end the show, too.
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Post by yinyang on Apr 10, 2012 13:35:52 GMT -5
WWE/WORLD Title matches lost value when The Rock vs Hogan happen at wmx8 and HHH VS JERICHO undisputed title match wasnt as big of a match like rock and hogan was. The match the fans wanna see most will always be at the end of a ppv. As for raw anything can be the main event.
I was not a fan of otunga vs cena in the main event..i could care less. Its a great boost for otunga though..i thought he showed a good match with cena till he was flexing...just to have a reason why he lost the match..really lame.
Mark henry vs cm punk made sense to be for the wwe title but it was in the middle of the show..wtf. It was then obvious that it was gonna end oddly..and it did with a dq. It was a match to set up the segment with Jericho dumping beer on punk which was fun, and could have been a way to end the show but they are more so promoting lesnar and cena at this time as they are more so what the fans wanna see.
I disagree with the ending of raw..i think they should of had lesnar come out to his theme song..it always pumps up the crowd and i would have been more interested in him coming out then how they went with it on raw this week. You could tell the crowd was glued to brock lesnar comign out but they didnt come unglued as they more so would have if he came out with his theme song and walked down the ramp with cena telling him to bring it..brock then could kick him in the balls bring him down to get the f5 then lesnar slaps him repeatedly while he's down.
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Post by alexgg on Apr 10, 2012 13:44:50 GMT -5
All the championships seem to not mean much at all nowadays, they need to be focused upon much more.
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Post by LeighD on Apr 10, 2012 13:46:30 GMT -5
I really think WWE should unify the WWE and WHC belts and start making the title appear to mean something. I think the title should be exclusively defend on PPVs with the occassional, but highly meaningful title defense on TV. The focus of title defenses would be placed on IC, US, Tag Team, and Divas championships.
I think the WWE Champion should be a big part of TV showings like interviews, run-ins, and maybe a few Tg team or non-title matches. But make the champ and belt look important.
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Post by v/\v on Apr 10, 2012 13:50:55 GMT -5
WM19, 20, 21 and the following ones up until 23 all featured the Championship matches as THE matches and they were at each event. So Rock vs Hogan did nothing to detract from the World Titles' importance.
WWE are absurdly, and have been for years, of the mindset that Raw is The John Cena Show. So unless the belt is around him, it will get shuffled in the pack. Raw could and should have easily ended with the Championship match last night because it was such a great promo from Punk and it did, what I wanted anyway, and show Punk ragged at Jericho's verbal assaults and ended with such a crazy scene which has ended many a Raw in the past.
I hope that on the Raw before ER, despite the enormity of it, that both main matches are featured in a tag match, Punk & Cena vs Brock & Jericho as the main event and that Jericho/Punk is the final scenes going into the PPV, since Brock & Cena are really going for brawling and not talking.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 13:51:38 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly agree.
In fact, I predict that Punk will lose that title either to Mark Henry next week (with help from Jericho) or to Jericho directly, allowing either Henry or Jericho to become a transitional champ that will ultimately lose to Brock Lesnar, setting up Rock / Brock or Cena / Brock.
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Post by Sonnen on Apr 10, 2012 13:52:25 GMT -5
It's a prop now, titles don't matter.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Apr 10, 2012 13:54:31 GMT -5
I really think WWE should unify the WWE and WHC belts and start making the title appear to mean something. I think the title should be exclusively defend on PPVs with the occassional, but highly meaningful title defense on TV. The focus of title defenses would be placed on IC, US, Tag Team, and Divas championships. I think the WWE Champion should be a big part of TV showings like interviews, run-ins, and maybe a few Tg team or non-title matches. But make the champ and belt look important. If they unified the belt, they would have 1 less prop to help push guys to the top spot. Have 2 belts does seem to water down the title picture, though. If they really severely split the brand again where RAW and SD! guys NEVER showed up on the other show, that would help where the 2 belts are concerned. Each belt would have its own show. The IC, US titles are even less important. If anything, those 2 should be unified, personally. Yeah, the belts have less meaning than they once did. Were I booking, I would have them focus on the purse money and that when explaining WHY a title was important. The champ would get a HUGE purse for winning (if it were a real sport). |
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Post by jfinnomore on Apr 10, 2012 17:04:57 GMT -5
Cena and Brock out draw the Champ, simple as that.
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Post by Edge618 on Apr 10, 2012 17:25:02 GMT -5
They don't matter unless you want them to matter. It matters to me. I love seeing my favorite wrestlers get that title. I don't care where its at on the card. Its important to me as a fan. If its not important to you, its because you make it not important to you. I've loved CM Punk's reign, and Punk vs. Jericho has been a great feud, produced great matches, and Punk is actually retaining and defending it regularly. Every match he has for that belt makes it more important IMO. I love Raw WWE title matches, like this Punk vs. Henry mini-feud. You know Henry's not gonna win no way, but you also think how is Punk going to win? Wrestling right now for me is great, its pleasing all of my wants from a wrestling show. Punk vs. Jericho is the real meat of the wrestling part of the show, Lesnar vs. Cena is the entertainment, and guys like Brodus, Santino, and Ryder are good relief from all the intensity. It doesn't really matter where anything ends up on the card, as long as you enjoy it then its important.
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Post by beauforsure on Apr 10, 2012 17:36:24 GMT -5
Yea when your WWE champ is geting humilated on TV then i think you know right there that the title is worthless and is only used as a gimmick enhancment to get guys over.
The WWF title(winged eagle), will always be the best belt anyone couldve wore. When they changed over to Attitude.. the prestige died because BIG names became BIGGER than the title itself... thus is where we are today !!
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Post by TurboEddie on Apr 10, 2012 22:24:28 GMT -5
I don't like that they're sidetracking CM Punk with Mark Henry while he's feuding with Chris Jericho. The time from WrestleMania to Extreme Rules should be used to build the next match between Punk and Jericho.
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Post by thehardys4life on Apr 10, 2012 22:26:25 GMT -5
Not unless it's a PPV match.
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Post by orton1994 on Apr 10, 2012 23:10:18 GMT -5
Because theyre not real title matches, they're only there to further a story with Henry and to continue the Jericho Punk feud, if it was a match between the two in the actual feud it would be the main event of the show. Back over the Summer, Christians first defense was the main event on Smackdown, the final encounter between Orton and Christian was the main event on Smackdown for the title. It all has to do with whats going on in the story and if there are more important things going on
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Apr 10, 2012 23:14:39 GMT -5
No WWE title's are meaningless and they have lost all forms of credibly for years now. It doesn't mean your the best in the organization at what you do when you obtain it, its now if you get a lucky break and you get a major push, you might have a chance at being world champion. Just total ruined the whole glory feel compared to the old days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2012 7:07:35 GMT -5
Titles mean nothing, and havn't for probably a decade. Come on, we've got Daniel Bryan and Sheamus winning titles. Used to be that guys like Bulldog, Scott Hall and Mr Perfect didn't get titles. You honestly think that Daniel Bryan is better than the above mentioned just because he won a title?
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