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Post by Bandalero on May 13, 2012 20:03:37 GMT -5
MDT MORE FLASHBACKS PLZ!
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on May 13, 2012 22:32:08 GMT -5
I agree that Legends are still very desired, but citing a poll on WF, a site aimed at collectors, isn't going to encourage anyone.
Flashbacks are doing great where I live. If they do well elsewhere, that's the best way to send a message that Legends - in certain doses, in certain packaging - are still marketable at retail. I don't think Yokozuna is going to be easy to find, and who knows if most of us will ever even find both Diesel & Nash since they're split between cases. If Mattel notices how well they're doing, that might open up the door for some additional Flashbacks at TRU or something.
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Post by GrimKid on May 14, 2012 5:44:23 GMT -5
I'd actually like for the legends to have a separate line again...I miss current superstars getting 6 elites per wave. I'm an elite completest, but really have no need for FB & would be glad to have current superstars updated quicker & have new guys debut (like Trent Barretta, Otunga & such) and you Legends collectors have your own line again. I totally agree with this...Bring back our legends line and give us more NEW debut elite figures !! I like flashbacks because it's basically a legend if a diff package, but how bout a separate "flashbacks" subline and open up those elite spots for more current figures |
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Post by jomomojo420 on May 14, 2012 21:25:29 GMT -5
I'm quite aggravated FB are in the elite line taking up current figure space! I liked the way it was elite 1-11.
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Post by Rob7274 on May 15, 2012 3:57:20 GMT -5
I'm quite aggravated FB are in the elite line taking up current figure space! I liked the way it was elite 1-11. Yeah where all missing more Ortons and Cenas  |
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Post by jomomojo420 on May 15, 2012 4:50:52 GMT -5
I'm quite aggravated FB are in the elite line taking up current figure space! I liked the way it was elite 1-11. Yeah where all missing more Ortons and Cenas More like missing Otunga, updated Ryder, updated Swagger, mason ryan, Brodus, A-RY |
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Post by OverTheEdge on May 15, 2012 6:18:49 GMT -5
Yeah where all missing more Ortons and Cenas More like missing Otunga, updated Ryder, updated Swagger, mason ryan, Brodus, A-RY Exactly. They're still making plenty of room for the Reys, Kofis, Cenas, and Ortons. It's the guys who a lot of us are actually interested in who are getting the short-end of the straw because of it. |
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Post by punksnotdead on May 15, 2012 8:43:38 GMT -5
More like missing Otunga, updated Ryder, updated Swagger, mason ryan, Brodus, A-RY Exactly. They're still making plenty of room for the Reys, Kofis, Cenas, and Ortons. It's the guys who a lot of us are actually interested in who are getting the short-end of the straw because of it. Oh yes, we are all being robbed because Kevin Nash, one of the most popular stars in pro wrestling history and a former WCW and WWF World Champion, back when it mattered, is taking the spot of Alex Riley, David Otunga or Mason Ryan. Seriously, give me a break. |
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Post by poindizzle on May 15, 2012 10:57:55 GMT -5
Exactly. They're still making plenty of room for the Reys, Kofis, Cenas, and Ortons. It's the guys who a lot of us are actually interested in who are getting the short-end of the straw because of it. Oh yes, we are all being robbed because Kevin Nash, one of the most popular stars in pro wrestling history and a former WCW and WWF World Champion, back when it mattered, is taking the spot of Alex Riley, David Otunga or Mason Ryan. Seriously, give me a break. I'm pretty sure the point that was being made earlier in this thread was not "Let's get rid of the Flashbacks, because I'm selfish and want only current roster guys", it sounds to me like "I really think it would be awesome and beneficial if the Flashback line was separate so that people who want to have a complete roster in elite form can have what they want and Legends fans can have what they want, and then everyone can be happy." If a scenario where both lines existed happened again, then the need for the ridiculous packout that they are doing with Nash wouldn't have to happen. He could have a Flashback in the flashback wave, and a current look in the Elite wave, instead of variants that are evenly short-packed. And who says Kevin Nash is the most important wrestler who ever lived in everyone's eyes? What you want doesn't equate into what everyone wants. Legends collectors can (not always, you know who this is and is not directed at) be such bungholes. If you're not happy with what's going on, you don't have to piss in the cornflakes of the people who are. |
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Post by poindizzle on May 15, 2012 11:03:09 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that other than Orton, E16 looks fantastic. I wish that the Legends could be their own line again, but as long as Cena and Rey aren't in every other wave, this assortment sounds like a good business model.
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Post by Chewdeezy on May 15, 2012 11:04:26 GMT -5
There has always been a demand for Legends. It's just that the demand for Legends doesnt sell well with its own line.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2012 12:09:53 GMT -5
I'm 14 and I want every legend they make. By the way, I'm still waiting for that Basic Jerry Lawler Mattel said we'd be getting. But on topic, the next 10 legends that I would like to be made would be: 1. Farooq/Ron Simmons 2. Scott Hall/Razor Ramone 3. Neidhart 4. Umaga (yes, I am considering him a legend) 5. Bill DeMott 6. Dean Malenko 7. Goldberg 8. Lance Storm 9. Johnny Ace 10. JBL/Bradshaw And of course Owen Hart and Benoit, but we already know why we aren't getting those. This is a great list coming from such a young collector. I gotta say I would pick up all of these even johnny ace if hes in the dynamic dudes outfit with a sick mullet. lets hope we see some of these figs in the future. |
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Post by punksnotdead on May 15, 2012 13:25:58 GMT -5
Oh yes, we are all being robbed because Kevin Nash, one of the most popular stars in pro wrestling history and a former WCW and WWF World Champion, back when it mattered, is taking the spot of Alex Riley, David Otunga or Mason Ryan. Seriously, give me a break. I'm pretty sure the point that was being made earlier in this thread was not "Let's get rid of the Flashbacks, because I'm selfish and want only current roster guys", it sounds to me like "I really think it would be awesome and beneficial if the Flashback line was separate so that people who want to have a complete roster in elite form can have what they want and Legends fans can have what they want, and then everyone can be happy." If a scenario where both lines existed happened again, then the need for the ridiculous packout that they are doing with Nash wouldn't have to happen. He could have a Flashback in the flashback wave, and a current look in the Elite wave, instead of variants that are evenly short-packed. And who says Kevin Nash is the most important wrestler who ever lived in everyone's eyes? What you want doesn't equate into what everyone wants. Legends collectors can (not always, you know who this is and is not directed at) be such bungholes. If you're not happy with what's going on, you don't have to piss in the cornflakes of the people who are. The guy said he was tired of FBs taking up spots in the Elite line. And I never, at any point, said Kevin Nash was the most important wrestler that ever lived. I said he was one of the most popular superstars of all time. If you, in any way, shape, or form, are trying to imply that Kevin Nash's popularity is in some way trumped by the likes of A-Ry, Otunga, or Jack Swagger, then you're, quite simply, delusional. We already know the Flashback's are not getting a separate line. It was called Legends, it didn't sell well. Now Mattel has a formula where they can add 1 or 2 of the more popular Legends into the current Elite line. That to me, is far superior than seeing guys who don't even get on TV get Mattel treatment. This has nothing to do with being a fan and everything to do with common sense. I'm basing my opinion off the fact that Kevin Nash put asses in seats for more than a decade and Alex Riley can't even get a match on Raw. |
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Post by poindizzle on May 15, 2012 13:41:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the point that was being made earlier in this thread was not "Let's get rid of the Flashbacks, because I'm selfish and want only current roster guys", it sounds to me like "I really think it would be awesome and beneficial if the Flashback line was separate so that people who want to have a complete roster in elite form can have what they want and Legends fans can have what they want, and then everyone can be happy." If a scenario where both lines existed happened again, then the need for the ridiculous packout that they are doing with Nash wouldn't have to happen. He could have a Flashback in the flashback wave, and a current look in the Elite wave, instead of variants that are evenly short-packed. And who says Kevin Nash is the most important wrestler who ever lived in everyone's eyes? What you want doesn't equate into what everyone wants. Legends collectors can (not always, you know who this is and is not directed at) be such bungholes. If you're not happy with what's going on, you don't have to piss in the cornflakes of the people who are. The guy said he was tired of FBs taking up spots in the Elite line. And I never, at any point, said Kevin Nash was the most important wrestler that ever lived. I said he was one of the most popular superstars of all time. If you, in any way, shape, or form, are trying to imply that Kevin Nash's popularity is in some way trumped by the likes of A-Ry, Otunga, or Jack Swagger, then you're, quite simply, delusional. We already know the Flashback's are not getting a separate line. It was called Legends, it didn't sell well. Now Mattel has a formula where they can add 1 or 2 of the more popular Legends into the current Elite line. That to me, is far superior than seeing guys who don't even get on TV get Mattel treatment. This has nothing to do with being a fan and everything to do with common sense. I'm basing my opinion off the fact that Kevin Nash put asses in seats for more than a decade and Alex Riley can't even get a match on Raw. What you want = Flashbacks. What others want = Full roster in Elite form. Who's right and who's wrong. Nobody. I want a Kevin Nash, but I also want current roster guys, too. I just don't feel the need to tell somebody that what they want is ridiculous, and I clearly have a more valid desire to be fulfilled. Having re-read the original post, which I was getting mixed up with an earlier post that said they wanted Flashback and Elite separate, I see that his was being rather forceful, too. Which to that poster also goes what I said above. I don't have delusions about the two being separate lines. It probably won't happen. I like the Flashbacks a lot. I only dislike that Randy Orton and Rey and Cena aren't going to be the ones that are going to be cut out to make room for them. This new lineup, as I said earlier, is pretty good, I mean for variety anyway, there is Heath Slater and Ezekiel Jackson. I understand though why people are scared that the next line is going to be 2 Flashbacks and then Rey, Cena, Orton, and some other played out character. |
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Post by jomomojo420 on May 15, 2012 14:16:31 GMT -5
Or.... Aren't there 8 figures per case? Make every case 1 figure per case that way if Cena & Rey are in the line it tones them down, to only 1 per case not 3. Then give 6 elites there regular spots & 2 FB for figures 7 & 8.
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Post by TheChamp420 on May 15, 2012 14:19:51 GMT -5
Or.... Aren't there 8 figures per case? Make every case 1 figure per case that way if Cena & Rey are in the line it tones them down, to only 1 per case not 3. Then give 6 elites there regular spots & 2 FB for figures 7 & 8. This sounds like an excellent idea! |
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Post by punksnotdead on May 15, 2012 14:43:12 GMT -5
What you want = Flashbacks. What others want = Full roster in Elite form. Who's right and who's wrong. Nobody. I want a Kevin Nash, but I also want current roster guys, too. I just don't feel the need to tell somebody that what they want is ridiculous, and I clearly have a more valid desire to be fulfilled. Having re-read the original post, which I was getting mixed up with an earlier post that said they wanted Flashback and Elite separate, I see that his was being rather forceful, too. Which to that poster also goes what I said above. I have more current roster Elite figures in my collection than I do FBs/Legends. I want current roster guys too. However, I believe there should be a pecking order on who deserves a figure based on popularity and TV time. Guys like Alex Riley and Otunga are at the bottom of that list. The way Mattel has it set up, they essentially have to pick between Yokozuna and Jack Swagger, 9 times out of 10, i'd like them to go with a Yokozuna type since we get, at most, only two of those guys per line. E16 was done perfectly based on the current situation. However, with that being said, Zeke and Slater are both complete passes for me, as I don't care to have a figure of either guy. Punk and both Nash's I have pre-ordered, and Rock and Orton I will more than likely grab at retail. I may wait on Rock to get a WM28 version though. Or.... Aren't there 8 figures per case? Make every case 1 figure per case that way if Cena & Rey are in the line it tones them down, to only 1 per case not 3. Then give 6 elites there regular spots & 2 FB for figures 7 & 8. While this is a good idea in theory, it's cost related I would guess. Mattel more than likely isn't going to increase the line by 2 figures. They have said the only reason they are able to include two variations of a guy, so 7 figures total for a set technically, is because those variants take very little retooling. Nash's red outsider attire from 96 is damn near identical to his Diesel attire only in different colors, so it was probably a simple repaint. I'm with everyone on less Rey, Cena, and Orton. My TRU is covered in Cena. They need to stick to no more than one of those three a series imo. They really need to be conscious of how many of each guy they have out in other sets too. |
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on May 15, 2012 17:09:42 GMT -5
I understand though why people are scared that the next line is going to be 2 Flashbacks and then Rey, Cena, Orton, and some other played out character. Orton certainly doesn't change up enough to warrant such frequent figures, but Rise Above Hate Cena should be one of the biggest priorities for Mattel in the Elite line. Cena should be slotted in for a figure every three series', as he changes up his look every six months. Getting the latest Cena look in the line is always preferable to a figure of Superstars Jobber #782. Rey also has a huge variety of looks that they can draw on (although making most of his elites in black attire has been a letdown). |
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Post by TheChamp420 on May 15, 2012 17:38:19 GMT -5
I understand though why people are scared that the next line is going to be 2 Flashbacks and then Rey, Cena, Orton, and some other played out character. Orton certainly doesn't change up enough to warrant such frequent figures, but Rise Above Hate Cena should be one of the biggest priorities for Mattel in the Elite line. Cena should be slotted in for a figure every three series', as he changes up his look every six months. Getting the latest Cena look in the line is always preferable to a figure of Superstars Jobber #782. Rey also has a huge variety of looks that they can draw on (although making most of his elites in black attire has been a letdown). Well said! |
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Post by morenomark on May 15, 2012 17:44:36 GMT -5
I still find it very interesting that Heritage Bret, Shawn, Eddie, Warrior, and Macho Man are next to impossible to find,
yet Mattel has cancelled the Heritage series.
For whatever reasons, Elite Legends did not sell. The Basic ones have sold well. Why not make more Basic Legends?
Add a jacket or a title belt, raise the price a dollar, and I bet Mattel would be surprised at how well they would sell.
For the Elite collectors, the two Flashbacks per set idea is a good one. Keeps the Rey's, Cena's and Orton's to a
manageable level.
Oh, wait.
Groan.
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