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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2012 11:23:57 GMT -5
I'm also not booked on the next show as I mentioned last week I'm going on holiday. Didn't expect all of TNE to be on hiatus but then again I never expected these issues to arise.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 10, 2012 11:28:19 GMT -5
I'm also not booked on the next show as I mentioned last week I'm going on holiday. Didn't expect all of TNE to be on hiatus but then again I never expected these issues to arise. I have already thought of a way to work it into the angle.
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Post by CM Poor on Jun 10, 2012 11:29:17 GMT -5
I just can't be bothered to write something, within deadline this week, given the collaborative effort that went into something that essentially got sh*t on.
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Post by Raider on Jun 10, 2012 13:45:58 GMT -5
source: Wrestlenewz.com BREAKING: After being anally probed by TSA officials, thinking that he was a terrorist, WFWF CEO Xavier Pierce has returned to his office and his first order of business is suspending The New Epoch for one show following the incident. More on this story to come. I know it's the dirtsheets.. but it could be true? Just trying to lighten the mood.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 10, 2012 14:03:38 GMT -5
I understand the complaints, I more than deserve any bashing and criticism and I don't hide the fact that I'm not the best owner...that I make human mistakes...but in regards to SYE's post, I would like to point out that we, as owners, don't control other peoples lives at all. We can't help if someone gets too strapped for time and needs an extension. We can't help if people sign up and then never show. We can't help if people don't send in votes, especially for matches we need them in.
We can set deadlines till we're blue in the face, and we can enforce them until we're called dictators, but if no one pays any attention to them at all...what the hell do you expect us to do? I send the no showers PMs a day or two before the RPs are due telling them they have a match to show for. Someone, either Ace or myself, PM the voters and tell them what they need to vote for. We extend deadlines if people need them due to extenuating circumstances.
What can we do about that? We can't force people to sit down and write RPs for a fed they want no part in, because they only made a bio so they could have an extra post on their post count for the forums. We can't go to someones house and tell them to drop their lives and read the RPs they have to right this very second. And the last time I didn't extend a show deadline when I was asked (because at the time I was being pressured to stop with the extensions, similar to this), Rev quit and Al damn near ripped my head off for not granting the extension because that muffed up their angle because Rev was pissed he didn't get the extension...so sorry if I try to avoid that.
I know I'm not the greatest owner, but you all know that I'm trying the hardest that I can to keep this fed afloat. I'm constantly on the look out for new talent and bringing back old (ala Sabat and Bishop). I've gotten a ton better communicating with everyone here when it comes to promos and everything. It wasn't my turn to do the results, but I should have taken them over this week and told Ace the order to put the promos, regardless of the off and on weeks for owners that's been going on for years now.
The best thing I can tell you is that no matter what, I want both owners and a third party to read over the results before they're posted. I don't want anyone to be able to say we messed up on anything after they've been posted. When Ace does the results, I just write what he needs and he inserts it. I never see them, because I trust him to get them right, and the same goes for him when it's my turn to write the results. E and I did the exact same thing. This is a huge issue apparently, judging by the way these turned out (and for good reason, I understand the complaints). So would you guys want a third party to read over them? Make sure nothing's out of order? Like...a triple check? Yeah, it'll spoil the winners to someone, but it'll fix this issue y'all have with us now, and it'll be fixed right this second if you agree to it.
I can't apologize enough for the mistake...but you also have to realize that mistakes happen...albeit this one was a terrible one that shouldn't have happened period.
Just a thought.
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Post by johnmcclane44 on Jun 10, 2012 15:11:30 GMT -5
At this point I guess we just gotta figure things out. I like that idea horror sounds like a good failsafe. I guess now you just need to figure out whats up for the next card. TNE takes this one off, hopefully you guys can enjoy a week off, let off the steam, come back ready to go.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 10, 2012 15:42:35 GMT -5
Well we have three matches set. Ace and I have to discuss the rest of it, because more people than Epoch are taking this show off for one reason or another so we have to work this out.
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Post by Raider on Jun 10, 2012 15:46:08 GMT -5
Well we have three matches set. Ace and I have to discuss the rest of it, because more people than Epoch are taking this show off for one reason or another so we have to work this out. Well, good thing you guys decided to add another show then because if not we'd be heading into SOTF now and half the roster wouldn't RP...
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 10, 2012 16:01:13 GMT -5
I guess it's true when they say that everything has a silver lining or whatever the saying is. Haha.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 10, 2012 16:01:14 GMT -5
Well we have three matches set. Ace and I have to discuss the rest of it, because more people than Epoch are taking this show off for one reason or another so we have to work this out. There isn't anywhere that it is said there has to be a ton of matches on the card.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 10, 2012 16:03:03 GMT -5
I know. I still like making sure everyone's booked who can be booked though, so long as the match at least makes sense and such.
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Post by eljefe on Jun 10, 2012 17:15:52 GMT -5
I can confirm that there was a votes issue, in particular with my match. There was a deadlock, because someone(idk who) didn't vote. I was thinking of a NC scenario, when person did vote. This might be for others, but none I know for certain.
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Post by johnmcclane44 on Jun 10, 2012 20:01:30 GMT -5
Well Horror, you could always do the three match card if we have to, better than stuffing in several matches that would be plagued with no shows. And then, if we do that, each of the three matches could be fully written, and put over the fact that it's some of the newer blood being the focus of this show, you know, do it like that. Could work on a couple interviews/segments, make it a good, little but really solid show.
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Post by Rated R on Jun 11, 2012 3:19:47 GMT -5
Yeah, the obvious choice for this show is to focus on those involved in the Survival of the Fittest match itself to whatever extent you can. That should be the big sell right now after all.
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Post by Drake Elias on Jun 12, 2012 10:52:07 GMT -5
So I was away for a few days and come back to find a lot has happened.
I won't go into the mistakes on the show, I don't want to be the one that kicks a dead issue.
I do want to say that despite the lack of congruity with the theme of the show, I really enjoyed Trace's work. I liked the match with Schneider and look forward to facing him at the ppv along with Drakz.
Raider's scene was pretty entertaining. I am not a huge fan of parodies but it was done well. All in all it played in well with what The New Epoch did at the beginning of the show and how the main event went.
The six man match didn't disappoint. I really enjoyed how it was played up Drake's inexperience and still showcased his strengths. He was portrayed perfectly for this match. I thought the main event in general was just an entertaining match. It was more about hurting the other side than anything else. It made the steel cage perfect for the match. And given the effort put in by all six guys, I would say they were all given a good showing. Then the promo at the end was great. I hope the angle works out because large scale angles have the greater possibility for failure, but if it does, it could be very entertaining.
I enjoyed the show, well what there was of one.
And with the reviewing of results, I don't see why you need to involve a third person unless you are going to make them an owner also. I don't understand if both owners look them over before they are posted then why that isn't sufficient. Adding a third would just slow things down. Mistakes were made. But I think with the reaction that this got, both Ace and Shawn will be more vigilant in their review. But that is just my perspective.
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Post by Raider on Jun 12, 2012 16:57:21 GMT -5
And with the reviewing of results, I don't see why you need to involve a third person unless you are going to make them an owner also. I don't understand if both owners look them over before they are posted then why that isn't sufficient. Adding a third would just slow things down. Mistakes were made. But I think with the reaction that this got, both Ace and Shawn will be more vigilant in their review. But that is just my perspective. This. Even with cutting the show to a 10 day deadline, right now, from one set of results to another is just over 3 weeks... we don't need another step to slow down the process. You guys had the storylines in advance so you knew about it ahead of time, there was just a mistake when it was all put together. Reread your PMs before you put the results together or something, but I don't think adding another person and getting them involved is going to make it better. I am all for the voting committee, but look how it forced this show to drag so long... another person is going to make it worse.
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