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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2012 14:49:24 GMT -5
Weigh-in results...
MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET) Anderson Silva (202) vs. Stephan Bonnar (205) Dave Herman (244) vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (243) Fabio Maldonado (203) vs. Glover Teixeira (204) Jon Fitch (170) vs. Erick Silva (169) Phil Davis (206) vs. Wagner Prado (204) Demian Maia (170) vs. Rick Story (170)
PRELIMINARY CARD (FX, 8 p.m. ET) Rony "Jason" Mariano Bezerra (145) vs. Sam Sicilia (146) Gleison Tibau (155) vs. Francisco Trinaldo (154) Diego Brandao (144) vs. Joey Gambino (146) Renee Forte (169) vs. Sergio Moraes (169)
PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 7 p.m. ET) Chris Camozzi (185) vs. Luiz Cane (184) Reza Madadi (155) vs. Cristiano Marcello (155)
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2012 16:40:54 GMT -5
HAHAHAHA. Jonathan Snowden just released an apology article to Bonnar. What a CLOWN.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 12, 2012 16:57:31 GMT -5
HAHAHAHA. Jonathan Snowden just released an apology article to Bonnar. What a CLOWN. I was not very happy to be associated with that original article. I represented Bleacher Report last week at the UFC event here in Minneapolis and I'm very happy that Jonathan's article didn't come out until AFTER that. I've written some pretty truthful, some might even say harsh articles in the past; but I think there's a certain line that we don't cross as writers. While it's good to see Snowden's apology, and you have to respect what he's done in terms of the MMA books he's written in the past, this is going to be a tough one for him to live down even among friendly peers.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2012 17:02:51 GMT -5
He did that bullsh*t to Belfort too. Basically TRASHING him, and making fun of him. THIS is why Bleacher Report can suck a nut. I am FAR from a Bonnar or Belfort fan, but Jesus ing Christ, have some decency as a WRITER. You're a WRITER, not a fighter.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 12, 2012 17:07:12 GMT -5
To me, this just seems dangerous in that Anderson essentially gains nothing from beating Bonnar, but has the world to lose if he somehow drops this fight.
Obviously MMA isn't pro wrestling, but to some extent, I think you need to "protect" your draws by putting them against opponents that are considered by most to be strong opposition. I mean, let's think about this for a minute...
If Stephan Bonnar wins, is the UFC suddenly going to be able to market him as a main event talent? Are we going to be talking about him vs. Jon Jones now in a rematch? I get it -- the UFC was put in a tough spot. They needed Anderson on this card in Brazil. But I think the 11-to-1 odds tell the story on this one.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 12, 2012 17:07:44 GMT -5
I missed it, what did Snowden say? Or if someone has a link to the article, even better.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 12, 2012 17:09:00 GMT -5
He did that bullsh*t to Belfort too. Basically TRASHING him, and making fun of him. THIS is why Bleacher Report can suck a nut. I am FAR from a Bonnar or Belfort fan, but Jesus ing Christ, have some decency as a WRITER. You're a WRITER, not a fighter. Hey man, I get it. Certain writers at Bleacher Report have a long way to go. Just realize that we don't all trash fighters like this. I might disagree with the booking, but I'm not going to go on what almost turned to be a personal insult tangent toward the competitors. I have too much respect for these guys to do that.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2012 17:09:52 GMT -5
He said some pretty harsh things. Obviously, the article was taken down, but I remember him talking about how Bonnar is taking advantage of the UFC, and basically throwing insults at him. He did the same with Belfort.
Why WRITERS try to throw insults at fighters is beyond me. You sit on a computer chair all day, man. You're not fighting.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 12, 2012 17:16:52 GMT -5
There's a line that you either cross or don't cross depending on whether or not you want to be recognized as being someone who helps promote the sport or someone who is criticizing its every move.
I went after Nick Diaz during his whole "incident" when he was supposed to fight GSP. What he did was childish and put a black eye on the sport. To me, that is unacceptable.
This Stephan Bonnar vs. Anderson Silva fight doesn't do anything like that, though. Both of these guys are going to show up and they're going to fight.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 12, 2012 17:28:58 GMT -5
I'll just never understand the need for insults. Especially when these guys are FIGHTING and you're WRITING.
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Post by MuffFuzz on Oct 12, 2012 20:43:39 GMT -5
Anderson Silva Vs Stephan Bonnar - Second Round Submission
Minotauro Nogueira Vs Dave Herman - Second Round TKO
Glover Teixeira Vs Fabio Moldonado - First Round KO
Jon Fitch Vs Erick Silva - First Round TKO
Phil Davis Vs Wagner Prado - Unanimous Decision
Going for a Brazilian clean sweep for the main card. Wouldn't be surprised if Davis, Fitch and Herman squeak out a win, but who knows.
I still can't believe Anderson Silva is fighting flippin' Stephan Bonnar. I like the guy, and who doesn't enjoy his fights? But the match making here is a joke. I feel like I'm wasting my money on such a mismatch. But of course that means nothing, because I; along with the rest of you here will be watching the event tomorrow night.
Anyways, I'm not sure if it's a five rounder or a three rounder, but I will give Bonnar's chin credit and say he might not get stopped from strikes. So if it's a three rounder I've got Anderson by UD, if it's five then a sub. Can't wait, hope Anderson puts on a show!
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Post by hammer on Oct 12, 2012 21:09:43 GMT -5
pretty sure its a 3 rounder. anderson said he couldnt get in shape in time for a 5 rounder.
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Post by Bartman on Oct 12, 2012 21:47:10 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a 3 rounder. Dana confirmed it before on Twitter.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Oct 12, 2012 22:30:46 GMT -5
I like Anderson's attitude about this fight. I honestly think Bonnar has a good chance, he has no pressure going into this fight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 4:32:18 GMT -5
Jon Fitch is gonna finish Erik Silva in this fight.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 13, 2012 5:20:28 GMT -5
I will do unimaginable things if I see Fitch finish a fight.
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Post by hammer on Oct 13, 2012 13:39:27 GMT -5
especially against erick silva. after tonight, silva will be getting mentioned with rory mcdonald as the future of 170.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 13, 2012 14:01:58 GMT -5
especially against erick silva. after tonight, silva will be getting mentioned with rory mcdonald as the future of 170. But could you imagine IF Fitch finishes him? It would be INSANE.
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Post by James Hetfield on Oct 13, 2012 15:20:38 GMT -5
CHRIST Almighty! Did you guys see Luiz Cane at the weigh-in. ALMOST the worst I've ever seen a fighter look after cutting weight.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Oct 13, 2012 15:38:32 GMT -5
There's a line that you either cross or don't cross depending on whether or not you want to be recognized as being someone who helps promote the sport or someone who is criticizing its every move. I didn't see Snowden's article, but I'm an editor/reporter in my day job, too... and ideally, I wouldn't want to be seen as either "promoting" the sport nor criticizing its every move. I always thought it was odd how so many MMA writers thought it was their duty as journalists to promote or support the growth of MMA. That's what a booster or PR rep does, not a journalist. A journalist covers the beat, period. Warts and all. That means shining a flashlight on all aspects of MMA, good and bad, and being able to give them proper context. If you write an honest article about a bad thing that happens in MMA, you're not doing much to "promote" the sport, but you ARE honoring your responsibility to your own readers, who expect honestly. At the same time, if you write glowing praise, and it's an honest assessment, you're not necessarily a shill either. But for a journalist to assume the duty of "helping MMA grow" is to place the UFC (or Bellator or whomever) ahead of your own readers on your priority list. Which is a fundamental departure from what a journalist is supposed to be, and it bothers me that a ton of paid (and unpaid) MMA writers think they're supposed to be a cheerleader for the growth of MMA. No... just cover MMA... leave the cheerleading to the PR agents and promoters. They'll "help grow MMA." And if they don't succeed, it's their fault, not the media's. Sorry for the rant... it's a topic I feel strongly about. Regarding Silva vs. Bonnar: The sports fan in me always roots for the most exciting finish possible, which would obviously be either a spectacular Silva KO or an improbable Bonnar upset (which would weaken the light heavyweight division in the long run though, so that euphoric moment would be very short lived).
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