Deleted
Joined on: May 3, 2024 21:53:22 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 14:40:55 GMT -5
At Summer Slam Jericho did the top rope frakenstein and landed perfect i guess they figured why not try it on RAW. But as we see sometimes its goes right the 1st time and wrong the 2nd, Not sure who is to blame for this.
|
|
|
Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Aug 22, 2012 15:39:51 GMT -5
Ziggler has been getting very sloppy lately, IMO. He's trying to go too fast in the ring and as many veterans have said, sometimes you just need to slow down a bit. I've been disappointed with a lot of his recent performances. He's regressed in my eyes. We must be watching two different people. Zigglers pace is fast, but it makes matches so much more fluid and enjoyable. In my eyes he's THE best in ring performer on the roster. He sells better than anyone else his size, he takes spots aswell as being all round solid. He does take risks, but he's never really made me feel like he's not doing anything safely, even with this, the way he rolled with it was fine.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 3, 2024 21:53:22 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 15:52:52 GMT -5
Look at it closely, the move was intentional. The only thing that can be considered a botch is that Ziggler was suppose to probably grab Jericho higher up on his thigh so his head didnt hit the mat but its a move Ziggler isnt use to.
|
|
|
Post by el torro on Aug 22, 2012 16:02:07 GMT -5
Ziggler was quick enough to hook both legs and take a bump from an odd maneuver. It looked different, didn't look close to harming either man... so that's great. Ziggler is awesome and quick on his feet at all times. Anyone who disagrees is wrong and stupid. absolutely agree.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 3, 2024 21:53:22 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 16:25:07 GMT -5
When you try moves like that...your asking for trouble. Never once did i see the rock..austin...hogan...do things like that. All top drawers. Are you really comparing Hogan to Jericho?
|
|
mrassbillygunn
Main Eventer
WF 10+ Year Member
Joined on: Jul 23, 2011 19:35:48 GMT -5
Posts: 4,261
|
Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 22, 2012 18:41:16 GMT -5
When you try moves like that...your asking for trouble. Never once did i see the rock..austin...hogan...do things like that. All top drawers. Terrible logic, just awful. Dynamite Kid. I win. The Hardyz. I could destroy you all day long with this argument. Jericho and Dolph have enough in their locker to avoid dumb moves like that. Absolutely not needed and you're going to say "terrible logic". Don't make me laugh.
|
|
|
Post by Tye Hyll on Aug 22, 2012 19:04:07 GMT -5
Ziggler has been involved in some weird botches lately, but if you watch Jericho's last few matches back, he's had his own shares of missteps. I wonder if Jericho had flashbacks of that botched Shooting Star Press that nearly broke his neck. He says he's never watched that back. I wonder if he watched this match. Ive never seen Jericho attempt an ssp
|
|
|
Post by KrimV on Aug 22, 2012 19:16:25 GMT -5
The move looked weird, but I don't think Jericho was in any real danger as you can see he has his forearms firmly down and keeping his head from striking the mat.
|
|
Deleted
Joined on: May 3, 2024 21:53:22 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 19:35:33 GMT -5
Ziggler has been involved in some weird botches lately, but if you watch Jericho's last few matches back, he's had his own shares of missteps. I wonder if Jericho had flashbacks of that botched Shooting Star Press that nearly broke his neck. He says he's never watched that back. I wonder if he watched this match. Ive never seen Jericho attempt an ssp 7:15 It was a top rope frankenstiener not an ssp
|
|
|
Post by DgenerationX092 on Aug 23, 2012 2:04:44 GMT -5
Ive never seen Jericho attempt an ssp 7:15 It was a top rope frankenstiener not an ssp Jesus ing Christ! Ugh. Well anyway, that botch from RAW was Zigglers fault, no question about it. Granted, he rebounded quite well, it still could have ended very badly for Jericho and shouldnt go unnoticed. If you take the good, then you also have to take the bad. Ziggler might be popular right now but you cant void him of blame when he's clearly wrong.
|
|
|
Post by jfinnomore on Aug 23, 2012 6:54:03 GMT -5
Terrible logic, just awful. Dynamite Kid. I win. The Hardyz. I could destroy you all day long with this argument. Jericho and Dolph have enough in their locker to avoid dumb moves like that. Absolutely not needed and you're going to say "terrible logic". Don't make me laugh. Yeah you're right The Hardyz are known for never taking unnecessary risk. Certainly destroyed me with your god awful logic there pal.
|
|
|
Post by wabarrett on Aug 23, 2012 7:54:04 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid. I win. The Hardyz. I could destroy you all day long with this argument. Jericho and Dolph have enough in their locker to avoid dumb moves like that. Absolutely not needed and you're going to say "terrible logic". Don't make me laugh. Yeah you're right The Hardyz are known for never taking unnecessary risk. Certainly destroyed me with your god awful logic there pal. I have no idea what he is going on about either. As for the thread, it's just a wrestling botch, they happen. But Ziggler should be fired for making a mistake. I'm gonna call him Dolph Botchler from now on because I am so damn witty. jk
|
|
|
Post by robinsonben36 on Aug 23, 2012 8:43:14 GMT -5
Terrible logic, just awful. Dynamite Kid. I win. The Hardyz. I could destroy you all day long with this argument. Jericho and Dolph have enough in their locker to avoid dumb moves like that. Absolutely not needed and you're going to say "terrible logic". Don't make me laugh. What the are you talking about?
|
|
mrassbillygunn
Main Eventer
WF 10+ Year Member
Joined on: Jul 23, 2011 19:35:48 GMT -5
Posts: 4,261
|
Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 23, 2012 11:03:40 GMT -5
Dynamite Kid. I win. The Hardyz. I could destroy you all day long with this argument. Jericho and Dolph have enough in their locker to avoid dumb moves like that. Absolutely not needed and you're going to say "terrible logic". Don't make me laugh. What the are you talking about? What was Jericho doing that dumb move for? That was my argument. They dont need to be doing that. Absolutely not needed. Whats there not to understand?
|
|
|
Post by jfinnomore on Aug 23, 2012 11:09:18 GMT -5
What the are you talking about? What was Jericho doing that dumb move for? That was my argument. They dont need to be doing that. Absolutely not needed. Whats there not to understand? So wrestlers should only do rest holds, because everything does runs the risk of injury?
|
|
mrassbillygunn
Main Eventer
WF 10+ Year Member
Joined on: Jul 23, 2011 19:35:48 GMT -5
Posts: 4,261
|
Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 23, 2012 11:24:27 GMT -5
What was Jericho doing that dumb move for? That was my argument. They dont need to be doing that. Absolutely not needed. Whats there not to understand? So wrestlers should only do rest holds, because everything does runs the risk of injury? Ofcourse everything runs the risk of injury but trust me id rather take a few scoop slams or be wrestling on the mat than taking flips off the top rope neck first.....theres a lot more potential for injury. Hence my argument Jericho doesnt need to doing moves like that. All those top rope guys i mentioned..dynamite..the hardys..edge i mean the list in endless ...look at them now..WRECKS.
|
|
|
Post by jfinnomore on Aug 23, 2012 11:30:39 GMT -5
So wrestlers should only do rest holds, because everything does runs the risk of injury? Ofcourse everything runs the risk of injury but trust me id rather take a few scoop slams or be wrestling on the mat than taking flips off the top rope neck first.....theres a lot more potential for injury. Hence my argument Jericho doesnt need to doing moves like that. All those top rope guys i mentioned..dynamite..the hardys..edge i mean the list in endless ...look at them now..WRECKS. And Austin and Hogan aren't?
|
|
|
Post by punksnotdead on Aug 23, 2012 11:32:44 GMT -5
So wrestlers should only do rest holds, because everything does runs the risk of injury? Ofcourse everything runs the risk of injury but trust me id rather take a few scoop slams or be wrestling on the mat than taking flips off the top rope neck first.....theres a lot more potential for injury. Hence my argument Jericho doesnt need to doing moves like that. All those top rope guys i mentioned..dynamite..the hardys..edge i mean the list in endless ...look at them now..WRECKS. So there should be no high flying spots in wrestling... OHHHH it all makes sense now. Guys like Edge, Hardy, Jericho, wouldn't have even gotten to the top had they not built their careers around doing that type of stuff in the ring. You're obviously entitled to your opinion and logic, but I think it's stupid. Same goes for Eddie, Rey, Shawn Michaels, and RVD.
|
|
mrassbillygunn
Main Eventer
WF 10+ Year Member
Joined on: Jul 23, 2011 19:35:48 GMT -5
Posts: 4,261
|
Post by mrassbillygunn on Aug 23, 2012 11:45:28 GMT -5
Ofcourse everything runs the risk of injury but trust me id rather take a few scoop slams or be wrestling on the mat than taking flips off the top rope neck first.....theres a lot more potential for injury. Hence my argument Jericho doesnt need to doing moves like that. All those top rope guys i mentioned..dynamite..the hardys..edge i mean the list in endless ...look at them now..WRECKS. And Austin and Hogan aren't? Hogan lasted A LOT longer, well into his 40s than those others i mentioned. How can you compare Hogan to the others....HOGAN wrestled crap loads more matches than all them!!! Jesus man....do you think Hogan would have wrestled all the matches in his career by doing flips off the top rope every night...twice a night dont forget in the 80s when WWF were selling out house shows.....Hogan was able to wrestle so much because he wasnt doing silly top rope moves neck first onto the mat.
|
|
WWE Common Terry
Main Eventer
Joined on: Dec 17, 2003 13:48:53 GMT -5
Posts: 3,803
|
Post by WWE Common Terry on Aug 23, 2012 12:03:55 GMT -5
Jericho wrote about his botched SSP in his second book. It was pre-WCW. But he almost paralyzed himself.
|
|