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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 21:24:47 GMT -5
Hey guys, this topic came up briefly in another thread, but I thought we could get a discussion about it.
If WWE goes back to TV-14 rating, do you think Mattel will still want to carry the license to manufacture WWE toys?
Also this has nothing to do with figures, but does anyone know when WWE became TV-14?
Thanks!
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Post by Fortune 4 on Sept 3, 2012 21:25:48 GMT -5
Why wouldnt they? They make Barbies and 90% of them look like cheap sluts.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 3, 2012 21:30:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure mattel has nothing to do with WWE being PG. Stuid assumption.
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 3, 2012 21:34:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure mattel has nothing to do with WWE being PG. Stuid assumption. This. |
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Sept 3, 2012 21:37:24 GMT -5
If WWE went back to TV-14, they'd lose a lot of potential sponsors, revenue and marketing avenues. Mattel toys would be one of the things that'd be at risk, I believe. It'd be stupid for WWE to do that, and there's absolutely no reason they would. So it's not something we need to worry about. Also this has nothing to do with figures, but does anyone know when WWE became TV-14? I think SmackDown has almost always been PG rated. Raw first went to TV-14 in early 1999, I think. Someone might have some actual data on the first TV-14 episode to prove that wrong though. |
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Post by mrhoss on Sept 3, 2012 21:46:12 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure mattel has nothing to do with WWE being PG. Stuid assumption. This. I think you're but I have read comments by non collectors blaming the Mattel deal for the PG rating. I think it has more to do with Linda's political ambitions. Even before her Senate runs, she was appointed to a state education board. That was 2009, according to Google search. Her foes are going to use the WWE against her every time. Since I live in Connecticut, I should vote against Linda. The WWE will be TV-14 for 2013. BTW I loved the Attitude era but some of that stuff is cringe worthy. What about Batman figures aimed at kids based on Nolan's Batman movies? I personally think they're kind of rough for young kids. It's hard to determine Mattel's views partly because I can't think of many of their recent licenses. |
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Post by dontquestionmyhart on Sept 3, 2012 21:50:56 GMT -5
Why wouldnt they? They make Barbies and 90% of them look like cheap sluts. |
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Post by tonytunez on Sept 3, 2012 22:03:52 GMT -5
That's a good question but Barbie and monster high dolls are dressed in skimpy clothes lmao
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Post by hbkrules on Sept 3, 2012 22:16:50 GMT -5
Who knows for sure but check out the Mattel website, all of their brands are childish. I don't see Mattel being associated with a tv 14 product.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 22:42:57 GMT -5
Who knows for sure but check out the Mattel website, all of their brands are childish. I don't see Mattel being associated with a tv 14 product. They are associated with DC comics and the Dark Knight films, which is aimed more to adults than kids I believe |
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Sept 3, 2012 22:46:07 GMT -5
If there's $$$ to b made then yes
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 22:47:24 GMT -5
If WWE went back to TV-14, they'd lose a lot of potential sponsors, revenue and marketing avenues. Mattel toys would be one of the things that'd be at risk, I believe. It'd be stupid for WWE to do that, and there's absolutely no reason they would. So it's not something we need to worry about. Also this has nothing to do with figures, but does anyone know when WWE became TV-14? I think SmackDown has almost always been PG rated. Raw first went to TV-14 in early 1999, I think. Someone might have some actual data on the first TV-14 episode to prove that wrong though. I heard some people say that although WWE is PG, they can still do most of the stuff they done in the Attitude era, but they are just not at the moment. Is that true? |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 4, 2012 0:09:27 GMT -5
It had nothing to do with Mattel. They went PG because Linda was running for Senate.
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Sept 4, 2012 0:22:15 GMT -5
The latest Batman was rated PG-13. I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 0:42:04 GMT -5
The latest Batman was rated PG-13. I think. I'm not familiar with USA ratings, is PG-13 more mature or less mature than WWE's current PG rating? |
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Post by realjuicewinslow on Sept 4, 2012 0:46:31 GMT -5
The latest Batman was rated PG-13. I think. I'm not familiar with USA ratings, is PG-13 more mature or less mature than WWE's current PG rating? PG-13 is more mature than PG. |
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Post by peghound on Sept 4, 2012 1:55:15 GMT -5
The Mattel deal is, in fact the major reason behind maintaining a PG rating. The Linda senate deal doesn't hurt, but WWE believes the Mattel deal is critical to their business portfolio.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 3:31:05 GMT -5
The Mattel deal is, in fact the major reason behind maintaining a PG rating. The Linda senate deal doesn't hurt, but WWE believes the Mattel deal is critical to their business portfolio. Really? How do you know this? So are you saying, if WWE wwe goes back to TV-14 then Mattel stops making figures? |
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Sept 4, 2012 9:12:09 GMT -5
I heard some people say that although WWE is PG, they can still do most of the stuff they done in the Attitude era, but they are just not at the moment. Is that true? In terms of the TV content rating, they could still do the majority of what they did in the attitude era. Some of it would be a no-no, but a lot of it would be allowed. But still, if they did the more raunchy/extreme stuff, it would turn away sponsors and corporate partners. If Raw next week had a live sex celebration, eight wrestlers covered in blood and concussing each other with chairs, Mark Henry making out with a tranny and Undertaker crucifying someone, then a lot of the businesses that WWE make money with would pull out of the relationship. The TV content rating isn't the be-all end-all. When Linda McMahon's opponents show clips of Trish Stratus barking like a dog for Vince's pleasure, they don't say "YOU EVIL BASTARDS HAD A TV-14 TV SHOW!" They just talk about how tawdry that was. Same for the Eugene stuff or whatever else they do. When Finlay got Miz to come out and interrupt the national anthem, the National Guard kicked up a stink and Finlay got fired. That wasn't even on TV. Daniel Bryan choked Justin Roberts with his tie and got fired to appease corporate partners. The thing that all the "PG SUX they shud go back to TV14" morons forget is that the attitude era/TV-14 content got old anyway. The people who hate wrestling now and just complain about it endlessly were doing so for about six or seven years before Raw went PG. |
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Post by mrhoss on Sept 4, 2012 10:04:29 GMT -5
In case anyone missed these comments from HHH excerpted from a Sirius Radio (Busted Open) interview, nearly one year ago: "We had pushed the envelope so far and you get to a point that after a while, its like, Vince will always use this expression, even though it was completely irrelevant from a timeframe standpoint, but we had "Chainsaw Charlie". Where do you go after a guy with a chainsaw? But there is a certain point and time where you heard all this stuff on TV you have to pull it back to a point where it almost becomes sterile to get back to a point where you can begin to touch the envelope again where people go "OOH! Like we made it so sterile, like when CM Punk said Ass for the first time, people were like "Oh My God, he said ass!" Where ass was said every 4 seconds for a while. We have to pull it back. Will we ever get where we were before? No, because the world has changed.
"I just don't think you can kind of do that programming now, with the way that the world is. We will never get back all the way there. But I think there is definitely a huge gap between where we were and where we went to. But I think for the right reasons. You have to get to a point where you almost sterilize it to make it seem edgy again. If you just back it off a little bit, it kind of seems a little watered down. So we just took it to where it needed to go to get it back to where it needed to be." |
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