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Post by Bandalero on Sept 28, 2012 11:43:25 GMT -5
Hey guys, what's your opinion on the look of the WCW Championship when it was revealed at the Bash '91 when Luger beat Windham for the vacanted spot by Flair earlier that year? The internet wasn't really around back then but I'm sure many folks missed the big gold belt and therefore wouldn't have liked this change. I think it's a neat looking belt, not that it has a "world title aura" about it or anything. Did you like it?
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Post by drifter on Sept 28, 2012 13:45:24 GMT -5
Is this the one you mean? It wasn't debuted at the Bash. Since Flair left with the Big Gold they didn't have a World Title belt to give to the winner, so what Lex Luger was given was an old tag team belt, until this belt was made. Personally, I loved that belt. It was too bad they ditched it, but again, the Big Gold just looks like the top prize, and is so recognizable, so I get why they went with it.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 28, 2012 14:07:57 GMT -5
Is this the one you mean? It wasn't debuted at the Bash. Since Flair left with the Big Gold they didn't have a World Title belt to give to the winner, so what Lex Luger was given was an old tag team belt, until this belt was made. Personally, I loved that belt. It was too bad they ditched it, but again, the Big Gold just looks like the top prize, and is so recognizable, so I get why they went with it. Actually Im pretty sure the belt he was given was one of Dustys old Florida titles. Ironically it was the same title he was given the year before by Nikita Koloff as the new (wcw) United States title...which they again didnt have ready in time to debut. As for the actual belt, I really liked it personally. Yea it wasnt Big Gold but it was a title that looked very similar to the WWF Winged Eagle so to me it gave it a little bit of prestige in just looks alone.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 28, 2012 14:26:26 GMT -5
It certainly took some time getting used to. It was just so small in comparison. It was an awkward time for wCw in general though. Things were just "off" for awhile.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 22:23:15 GMT -5
I always thought the TV title and that title looked way too similar.
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Post by drifter on Sept 28, 2012 23:15:12 GMT -5
Is this the one you mean? It wasn't debuted at the Bash. Since Flair left with the Big Gold they didn't have a World Title belt to give to the winner, so what Lex Luger was given was an old tag team belt, until this belt was made. Personally, I loved that belt. It was too bad they ditched it, but again, the Big Gold just looks like the top prize, and is so recognizable, so I get why they went with it. Actually Im pretty sure the belt he was given was one of Dustys old Florida titles. Ironically it was the same title he was given the year before by Nikita Koloff as the new (wcw) United States title...which they again didnt have ready in time to debut. As for the actual belt, I really liked it personally. Yea it wasnt Big Gold but it was a title that looked very similar to the WWF Winged Eagle so to me it gave it a little bit of prestige in just looks alone. You're right about that. Don't know why I figured tag team belt. Maybe I'm thinking when Flair gave back the Big Gold and they censored the belt, which was a Tag Team Belt.
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Post by mikey1974 on Sept 29, 2012 15:39:05 GMT -5
knew i had a pic of it somewhere: this is,indeed,one of Dusty's old Florida Championship belts,just with square pieces off metal etched with WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT WRESTLING CHAMPION screwed in over the parts that identified it as the Florida Championship,or had the state on it.
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Post by LeighD on Oct 1, 2012 12:29:53 GMT -5
The belt in and of itself looks good and as Nirvo pointed out it paralleled WWF's wing eagle at the time. However, comparing with the big gold belt, it is almost like a step backwards in going to a smaller looking world title.
I liked it personally and it reminds me more of Vader than anyone else.
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Post by Bandalero on Oct 1, 2012 12:44:31 GMT -5
Yeah you guys are absolutely right. Lex was given a tag team looking title at the end of the GAB '91 cage match - I totally forgot. But he did debut the WCW belt eventually and it looked small, but I still kinda liked it. It definitely was a step backwards from the intricate big gold with it's simplistic 3-stars on either side, and sun-rays behind the WCW logo look. this was the pic I was trying to add to my first post:
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 1, 2012 17:54:14 GMT -5
Here's a picture of Dusty wearing the Pro Wrestling from Florida/WCW United States/ WCW World Heavyweight Title LOL!
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Post by Bandalero on Oct 1, 2012 18:04:12 GMT -5
nice pic - Dusty's done it all in one title...as he caresses Dick Slater's bum!!!
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Post by paperbackhero on Oct 1, 2012 20:58:56 GMT -5
Here's a picture of Dusty wearing the Pro Wrestling from Florida/WCW United States/ WCW World Heavyweight Title LOL! Great pic! Ive never seen that one before.
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Post by threehgame on Oct 2, 2012 0:00:00 GMT -5
Besides Dusty getting a handful my favorite part of that pic has always been Hall's Magnum T.A. look.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 10:23:02 GMT -5
yeah I liked it....I was glad when the big gold belt returned though.
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Post by MonsoonMan on Oct 12, 2012 18:49:59 GMT -5
I liked it personally and it reminds me more of Vader than anyone else. my thoughts exactly!
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Post by ToastMaster General on Oct 12, 2012 23:18:13 GMT -5
Vader just wouldn't have looked right with the Big Gold in my opinion, although the '91-'94 WCW title is probably the best World title WCW could've ever had.
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 13, 2012 10:42:05 GMT -5
i actually rather liked the 91-94 WCW World Championship Belt. if i ever save up enough money,i want to get the replica one they have out...
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Post by CSUMB84 on Oct 13, 2012 15:08:37 GMT -5
IIRC, didn't WCW eventually bring back the Big Gold Belt back around 1993 but it was now recognized as the WCW International World Heavyweight Championship?
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Post by mikey1974 on Oct 13, 2012 15:40:05 GMT -5
IIRC, didn't WCW eventually bring back the Big Gold Belt back around 1993 but it was now recognized as the WCW International World Heavyweight Championship? it evolved into that... when it was brought back,it was considered,again,the NWA World Championship,as the NWA continued on as a seperate entity from WCW from 1991 til about 1992/1993.. at some point in there they reopened a working relationship with WCW,as several WCW wrestlers were in the tournament to crown a new NWA World Champion when the title got vacated at some point. and the NWA championship was even being defended on WCW pay per views, seperate from the WCW World Championship. some time in 1993 relations again soured between the NWA and WCW,and they parted ways again.however WCW ended up with legal possession of the Big Gold Belt,and rather than just drop it completely,they renamed the NWA World Championship the WCW International Championship. which it stayed know as til WCW World Champion Ric Flair and WCW International Champion Sting met in a unifying match in spring of 1994. when Flair won the match,the "unified" championships were represented by the Big Gold Belt, known from that point forward as the WCW World Championship. what it basically comes down to,though,is that WCW got stuck with 2 World Championship Belts,and didn't know what to do with them. their attempt to rename the NWA Blet the International Championship failed miserably,as most fans and even casual observers recognized it as "Ric Flair's Belt", and therefore thought of it as more prestigious than the WCW Championship! so WCW had to find a way to get rid of one of them,and came up with the unification idea.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 13, 2012 22:43:48 GMT -5
IIRC, didn't WCW eventually bring back the Big Gold Belt back around 1993 but it was now recognized as the WCW International World Heavyweight Championship? it evolved into that... when it was brought back,it was considered,again,the NWA World Championship,as the NWA continued on as a seperate entity from WCW from 1991 til about 1992/1993.. at some point in there they reopened a working relationship with WCW,as several WCW wrestlers were in the tournament to crown a new NWA World Champion when the title got vacated at some point. and the NWA championship was even being defended on WCW pay per views, seperate from the WCW World Championship. some time in 1993 relations again soured between the NWA and WCW,and they parted ways again.however WCW ended up with legal possession of the Big Gold Belt,and rather than just drop it completely,they renamed the NWA World Championship the WCW International Championship. which it stayed know as til WCW World Champion Ric Flair and WCW International Champion Sting met in a unifying match in spring of 1994. when Flair won the match,the "unified" championships were represented by the Big Gold Belt, known from that point forward as the WCW World Championship. what it basically comes down to,though,is that WCW got stuck with 2 World Championship Belts,and didn't know what to do with them. their attempt to rename the NWA Blet the International Championship failed miserably,as most fans and even casual observers recognized it as "Ric Flair's Belt", and therefore thought of it as more prestigious than the WCW Championship! so WCW had to find a way to get rid of one of them,and came up with the unification idea. Just to kinda fill in some blanks on your post, the friction between WCW & NWA was because they (WCW) wanted to put the NWA Title on Rick Rude and NWA refused. Also the belt was referred to as "Big Gold Belt" and "World Heavyweight Championship" a few times before being renamed the International Title
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