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Post by JC Motors on Dec 4, 2012 12:52:11 GMT -5
Why did they stop doing KOTR?
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 4, 2012 23:38:46 GMT -5
I'll only use 1993 and onward as WWF only really pushed the KOTR as career altering at this point. So... 1993: Bret Hart = Success 1994: Owen Hart = Success 1995: Mabel = Flop 1996: Steve Austin = Success 1997: Hunter Hearst Helmsley = Success 1998: Ken Shamrock = Flop (Rock really should have won) 1999: Billy Gunn = Flop (Not a bad idea, just nothing ever happened afterward) 2000: Kurt Angle = Success 2001: Edge = Success 2002: Brock Lesnar = Success 2006: Booker T = Not really sure why he won. Maybe Lashley needed more 2008: William Regal = Had more become of Regal afterward, maybe a success, but he was in the same boat as Booker. Punk would have been a better choice. 2010: Sheamus = I'm still undecided about Sheamus. I pretty much agree with this exactly except for the Mabel part. I wouldnt say it was a success but I wouldnt list it as a failure either. It did put him in the Main Event scene against guys like Taker and Diesel where without it he would have been quickly lost in the shuffle and released.
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Post by LeighD on Dec 5, 2012 6:06:12 GMT -5
I'll only use 1993 and onward as WWF only really pushed the KOTR as career altering at this point. So... 1993: Bret Hart = Success 1994: Owen Hart = Success 1995: Mabel = Flop 1996: Steve Austin = Success 1997: Hunter Hearst Helmsley = Success 1998: Ken Shamrock = Flop (Rock really should have won) 1999: Billy Gunn = Flop (Not a bad idea, just nothing ever happened afterward) 2000: Kurt Angle = Success 2001: Edge = Success 2002: Brock Lesnar = Success 2006: Booker T = Not really sure why he won. Maybe Lashley needed more 2008: William Regal = Had more become of Regal afterward, maybe a success, but he was in the same boat as Booker. Punk would have been a better choice. 2010: Sheamus = I'm still undecided about Sheamus. I pretty much agree with this exactly except for the Mabel part. I wouldnt say it was a success but I wouldnt list it as a failure either. It did put him in the Main Event scene against guys like Taker and Diesel where without it he would have been quickly lost in the shuffle and released. Mabel's LOTR win no doubt put him in the main event picture which I liked. But for me, once 1996 arrived, he was nowhere to be seen. King Mabel was actually one of my favorite KOTR winners. I liked him heel and with a mean streak. I did enjoy his run for the title at SummerSlam and his feud with the Undertaker later that fall and winter. It seemed after that he got lost in shuffle or maybe he wasn't over with the fans. I do wish he had stayed in 1996.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Dec 5, 2012 6:15:13 GMT -5
Surprised people are actually saying Sheamus' KOTR win was a success. I thought it nearly ruined his career.
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Post by mikey1974 on Dec 5, 2012 6:38:02 GMT -5
1985: Don Muraco - flop 1986: Harley Race -flop 1987: Randy Savage - success 1988: Ted DiBiase -success 1989: Tito Santana -flop 1991: Bret Hart -success 1993: Bret Hart -flop, only cause he didn't need it,and it didn't do anything really for his career... 1994: Owen Hart - success 1995: Mabel - massive flop 1996: Steve Austin - massive success 1997: Hunter Hearst Helmsley - success 1998: Ken Shamrock - not sure 1999: Billy Gunn - massive flop 2000: Kurt Angle - success 2001: Edge - success 2002: Brock Lesnar - massive success 2006: Booker T - didn't help or hurt 2008: William Regal - success 1010: Sheamus - success
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Post by BrandontheWrestlingGuy on Dec 10, 2012 12:45:23 GMT -5
I miss this event a lot. I hope they bring it back soon even if it's a couple matches on Raw and/or Smackdown for several weeks like the recent Tag Tournament was.
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 10, 2012 13:01:09 GMT -5
Surprised people are actually saying Sheamus' KOTR win was a success. I thought it nearly ruined his career. Had they not stuck with pushing him, and most importantly given him the Rumble win, he'd be the Irish Jack Swagger right now. I think both Sheamus and Del Rio would have been failed experiments had they not been solidified with Royal Rumble wins. In retrospect, they probably should have gone with John Morrison at the time to actually win King of the Ring. Since they made JoMo number one contender at the next PPV anyway it made Sheamus being King of the Ring pointless. Sheamus should have gotten a World Title match for winning KOTR, otherwise what does KOTR even mean? That's why it works as a PPV and you give a shot to the winner at SummerSlam. MITB has kind of filled that role now though.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 10, 2012 14:16:54 GMT -5
1993: Bret Hart Success, though I don't know how important King of the Ring was to that. He'd already been champion.
1994: Owen Hart Success. Owen was never really a main event talent, but the King of the Ring win gave him the momentum to be one for a while.
1995: Mabel Flop.
1996: Steve Austin Success. Gave birth to perhaps the biggest catchphrase ever.
1997: Hunter Hearst Helmsley Success. It led to him having some high-profile matches with Foley and aligning with HBK.
1998: Ken Shamrock Flop, I guess. He never made that leap up the card, and his career after he won the King of the Ring was about the same as before he won it.
1999: Billy Gunn Flopped hard.
2000: Kurt Angle Success. One of the big moments in that fantastic rookie year.
2001: Edge Success. It really put Edge on the road to singles stardom, even if it took a few years longer to realise it than first thought.
2002: Brock Lesnar Success. Beat The Rock at SummerSlam for the title as a direct result of King of the Ring, and was/is a major player from then on.
2006: Booker T Success. It led to his first major title in WWE, and was often hilarious.
2008: William Regal Flop. Would've led to great things, but he blew it with the drugs.
2010: Sheamus He's ultimately a success but the role of winning KOTR in his career is irrelevant. He won the title a year before he won King of the Ring, and the King of the Ring win came during a downturn in fortunes. The stupid outfit definitely didn't help anything.
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