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Post by Gazza on Feb 18, 2013 6:10:09 GMT -5
I stopped caring what you think when you said "professional fan".
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Post by wabarrett on Feb 18, 2013 6:17:51 GMT -5
Anyone calling it one of the 'worst' 'Mania World Title match-ups ever is a damn fool.
Biggest WTF moment in a long time, but I'm actually all for it.
p.s. The Kofi bashing is lame too. Him and Swagger are basically on the same level.
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Post by The Perry Man on Feb 18, 2013 6:26:17 GMT -5
Swagger can handle himself in the ring man and Zeb Colter looks like he could be an effective mouthpiece in this role. Let it play out before judging it. He's basically the role reversal of Mohammed Hassan Swagger isn't even that good to begin with. I think he is a decent technician at best, but these days you CANNOT get over a serious main eventer if you need a mouthpiece, and also if you have ZERO charisma, it doesnt help you either.  Your argument is invalid. (I'm talking about the mouthpiece not the charisma) |
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 18, 2013 10:14:19 GMT -5
Anyone calling it one of the 'worst' 'Mania World Title match-ups ever is a damn fool. Biggest WTF moment in a long time, but I'm actually all for it. p.s. The Kofi bashing is lame too. Him and Swagger are basically on the same level. I personally think Kofi is in a higher position than Swagger. Kofi's a decorated midcard talent. Swagger is arguably one of the worst WHC's in history. So saying he's a former World Champion is empty. Not to mention he was a really sh*tty US Champion too. Kofi being elevated would make fare more sense than Swagger given that Kofi has done, and accomplished, everything at the midcard level, including getting over. Kofi is far more suited for elevation to the next level than Swagger imo. As far as Swagger vs Del Rio, it's all opinion, but I do think it's one of the worst WHC WM matchups that we have ever seen: 19: Booker vs Triple H 20: Benoit vs HHH vs HBK 21: Triple H vs Batista 22: Rey vs Orton vs Angle 23: Batista vs Taker 24: Edge vs Taker 25: Cena vs Edge vs Show 26: Jericho vs Edge 27: Del Rio vs Edge 28: Bryan vs Sheamus Obviously we need to see the match first. However, if I were to rank the Swagger vs Del Rio matchup on paper along with those others, it would easily fall to the bottom 3 on this list. In terms of an actual match it will surely be better than last years if it goes 30 seconds. |
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Post by Chip on Feb 18, 2013 10:28:08 GMT -5
- Everyone wants WWE to push new guys
- WWE pushes new guys
- "WHY ARE THEY PUSHING HIM HE SUCKS"
Translation-
everyone wants Dolph Ziggler to hold all championships for 5 years, and everything else is stupid, boring & a waste.
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Post by Triple S on Feb 18, 2013 10:50:05 GMT -5
First off, nobody cares what you think... especially the WWE writers. You not ordering will not harm business in the slightest bit.
Secondly, this program has potential to be awesome with Dutch. If they allow the segments to truly hit home to the Mexican audience, it'll put Swagger over as a huge heel. Pretty much Iraqi Slaughter, JBL, Muhammad Hassan level. It all depends on how much they allow Dutch, Swagger, Del Rio and Ricardo to go. Hopefully it's more serious and not a joke, like Show/Del Rio was for a bit.
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Post by J12 on Feb 18, 2013 11:15:34 GMT -5
The complaints about this match are so ridiculous that it's hilarious.
IT'S A MID-CARD MATCH. Hell, it's probably going to the OPENER.
If you're THAT pissed off that WWE is going with a fresh (and admittedly somewhat intriguing) match-up, just tune into Wrestlemania at 7:20 (or your applicable local time) and pretend the match never happened. Plain and simple, problem solved.
This is like bitching and moaning that Wrestlemania is ruined because the U.S. Title match features a couple guys you don't like.
Face it, the World Heavyweight Championship is a mid-card title at best. There's no denying it. WWE can try all they want, but it is what it is. It has opened Wrestlemania the last two years, and, hell, opened the last two Pay-Per-Views for that matter.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Feb 18, 2013 11:38:15 GMT -5
Swagger is so overrated in the ring it's not even funny. There is nothing about this guy that has ever even been remotely close to entertaining. He sucks on the mic and his whole "I'm an All-American athlete who's too good for this country" gimmick was already done years back by Kurt Angle. I get that the World Title match isn't a big deal anymore, but they still could've at least tried to make this a remotely entertaining match. Swagger wasn't even around for five months or whatever, so I really would like to know who he has pictures of that he was able to come back and be in the main event scene as soon as he came back after being nothing more than a glorified mid-carder before he left.
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Post by Triple S on Feb 18, 2013 11:43:10 GMT -5
He was easily the most impressive in the Chamber match. Yes, more impressive than Jericho and Bryan.
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Post by glenanncam on Feb 18, 2013 11:44:33 GMT -5
I give it a few weeks before everyone on here is marking out for Swagger.
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Post by Triple S on Feb 18, 2013 11:52:53 GMT -5
As long as they don't make this a joke, this Swagger/Del Rio program will gain people's interest.
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Post by Jamal on Feb 18, 2013 12:18:25 GMT -5
Swagger isn't even that good to begin with. I think he is a decent technician at best, but these days you CANNOT get over a serious main eventer if you need a mouthpiece, and also if you have ZERO charisma, it doesnt help you either. Your argument is invalid. (I'm talking about the mouthpiece not the charisma) Swagger is no Lesnar. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 13:03:32 GMT -5
As I said before, I'm looking forward to Del Rio/Swagger more than Rock/Cena II.
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Post by wabarrett on Feb 18, 2013 13:08:45 GMT -5
- Everyone wants WWE to push new guys - WWE pushes new guys - "WHY ARE THEY PUSHING HIM HE SUCKS" Translation- everyone wants Dolph Ziggler to hold all championships for 5 years, and everything else is stupid, boring & a waste. Ahaha. You are spot on Chip. Spot on. |
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Feb 18, 2013 13:32:02 GMT -5
Stop trashing our opinions. I'd really like to know what "professional fan" is because clearly you're not acting like one.
The World Heavyweight Championship, in many ways, has lost a lot of prestige in such short time. And at least they're mixing it up. Look at all the possible matches we could've gotten:
Alberto Del Rio vs. Mark Henry
Alberto Del Rio vs. Chris Jericho
Alberto Del Rio vs...................
OK, they're only two. But in my mind, this is very fresh and intriguing. And if the storyline holds up, people could be talking about this for months. So stop making yourself seem more important. WWE doesn't give a crap if you don't pay for WrestleMania. It'll sell anyway without you. Even if Hornswoggle was in the main event, people would buy it just to see if it's true.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 18, 2013 15:05:14 GMT -5
I love how a chunk of the IWC is complaining about a new and fresh feud involving Swagger and Del Rio when everybody complains that the WWE puts the same crap out all the time. Definatly excited for this and hoping that the WWE doesn't botch Swagger again. His first title run as a "jobber" champ was terribl;e, so hopefully hes treated much more seriously now.
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Post by kimberlysghost on Feb 18, 2013 15:10:03 GMT -5
I giggled at the phrase "professional fan." Then I went back to watching Breaking Bad.
If the matches don't interest you, don't be foolish and spend your money. That goes for everybody.
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Feb 18, 2013 15:20:06 GMT -5
I'm excited as  about this and I do not understand the hate on Swagger OR Del Rio. Both are excellent in their own ways. The story for this with Jack's recent change of character writes itself. Both are entertaining to me and I for one am excited. Let it play out, don't judge 2 hours after the show. This, if this match had happened last year i would be right with saying how bad of an idea it is. But, with Swaggers new gimmick(Shades of JBL in his storyline with Eddie Guerrero) and the tweaks they've done to Del Rio(The face turn saved him IMO, he just didn't pull off being a heel very well) I am very happy this match is taking place. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2013 16:37:33 GMT -5
Swagger is so overrated in the ring it's not even funny. There is nothing about this guy that has ever even been remotely close to entertaining. He sucks on the mic and his whole "I'm an All-American athlete who's too good for this country" gimmick was already done years back by Kurt Angle. I get that the World Title match isn't a big deal anymore, but they still could've at least tried to make this a remotely entertaining match. Swagger wasn't even around for five months or whatever, so I really would like to know who he has pictures of that he was able to come back and be in the main event scene as soon as he came back after being nothing more than a glorified mid-carder before he left. I 100% agree Swagger didn't not deserve to win last night, especially when he hasn't done anything and is still the same boring swagger who gets zero reaction from the fans. He's never had a good match with anyone and I find it funny how people assume Del Rio vs. Swagger will be a great match, well don't get your hopes up. Jericho should of won leading to Jericho vs Del Rio leading to Jericho Winning leading to Ziggler cashing in on Jericho thus continuing the rivalry between the two. Swagger vs Del Rio makes no sense and is just another random put together storyline. How deplorable. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 18, 2013 17:37:40 GMT -5
Either ignorance or never watched the guy work buts hes had a few memorable matches...
vs John Cena Raw Draft Night 2009
vs Christian Extreme Rules 2009
vs Randy Orton Extreme Rules 2010
The guy can work. Its not his fault the WWE decided to job him since winning the World Title 3 years ago. People are overreacting at at the least we will get a solid match between these two guys.
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