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Post by Devilkiller on Apr 3, 2013 11:25:20 GMT -5
I know that people have to be hating on people who start John Cena threads, but I do want to see some opinions. Since his WM debut, John Cena has fought for a title except for 1 year, and even then he was in the main event. WM XX- US title WM 21- WWE WM 22- WWE WM 23- WWE WM XXIV- WWE WM 25- World Heavyweight WM XXVI-WWE WM XXVII-WWE WM XXVIII- Main Event. WM 29- WWE. for the past 8 WM he has been in the spotlight, and the thing is, if WWE ever wants to find "that" guy, they HAVE to take John Cena down some. They can work on earning him every championship in WWE, him win the IC(I know very unlikely) and then have him dominate it. It gives new comers a chance to shine while keeping John Cena strong. Thoughts?
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Apr 3, 2013 11:59:01 GMT -5
I know that people have to be hating on people who start John Cena threads, but I do want to see some opinions. Since his WM debut, John Cena has fought for a title except for 1 year, and even then he was in the main event. WM XX- US title WM 21- WWE WM 22- WWE WM 23- WWE WM XXIV- WWE WM 25- World Heavyweight WM XXVI-WWE WM XXVII-WWE WM XXVIII- Main Event. WM 29- WWE. for the past 8 WM he has been in the spotlight, and the thing is, if WWE ever wants to find "that" guy, they HAVE to take John Cena down some. They can work on earning him every championship in WWE, him win the IC(I know very unlikely) and then have him dominate it. It gives new comers a chance to shine while keeping John Cena strong. Thoughts? At least at WMXX it was the opener. And a pretty fun one at that. It was his first championship and was a nice moment that led to some memorable feuds up to the Fall.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 12:01:36 GMT -5
I'll be honest, even though the IC Title is way below Cena, it would bring back some importance to the title and wouldn't ruin him at all at this point.
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Post by Devilkiller on Apr 3, 2013 12:02:57 GMT -5
I know that people have to be hating on people who start John Cena threads, but I do want to see some opinions. Since his WM debut, John Cena has fought for a title except for 1 year, and even then he was in the main event. WM XX- US title WM 21- WWE WM 22- WWE WM 23- WWE WM XXIV- WWE WM 25- World Heavyweight WM XXVI-WWE WM XXVII-WWE WM XXVIII- Main Event. WM 29- WWE. for the past 8 WM he has been in the spotlight, and the thing is, if WWE ever wants to find "that" guy, they HAVE to take John Cena down some. They can work on earning him every championship in WWE, him win the IC(I know very unlikely) and then have him dominate it. It gives new comers a chance to shine while keeping John Cena strong. Thoughts? At least at WMXX it was the opener. And a pretty fun one at that. It was his first championship and was a nice moment that led to some memorable feuds up to the Fall. I'm not saying it wasn't bad, the first year as US and even him winning the WWE Championship the first time, but at 22 I thought Trips should've won, or the next year HBK should've won, then it was just boring with him in..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 12:09:55 GMT -5
the problem here is this.......in WWEs eyes they have no other stars on his level.so they feel the need to either have him after the title or in a program just as/more important than the title.
and this situation that degrades weekly is their own fault.they now seem incapable of letting Superjohnny look weak in any situation(besides Rock)
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Apr 3, 2013 12:46:50 GMT -5
I agree with everything you all said.
With the Rock it was different. We chose him to be the figurehead, face of the company. There were manias where the Rock wasn't in the title picture, but his match still felt like the biggest of the night ie. Hogan and Austin. That was because of who he was. Cena, at times, gets shoved down our throat.
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Post by Callum1993 on Apr 3, 2013 12:55:42 GMT -5
Why should Cena step down? Hogan, Austin, Rock, Triple H, HBK, Bret Hart none of these guys ever stepped down back to being an IC Title. He's the Number 1 draw for a reason. However much you guys want Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose in a 2 hour Iron-Match to headline Wrestlemania it isn't going to happen.
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Post by Brad on Apr 3, 2013 12:57:14 GMT -5
the problem here is this.......in WWEs eyes they have no other stars on his level.so they feel the need to either have him after the title or in a program just as/more important than the title. and this situation that degrades weekly is their own fault.they now seem incapable of letting Superjohnny look weak in any situation(besides Rock) So true and it's sad with the wealth of talent currently on the roster. I don't know why they don't seem to prepare for the future anymore.
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Post by billyboytoobs on Apr 3, 2013 13:07:14 GMT -5
If youre on top of the mountain would you step aside? If anyone of you's had a chance to headline Wrestlemania you'd do it in a heartbeat. Don't get me wrong Cena is by no means my favourite but he is a fan after all - just living the dream
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Post by RybackV1 on Apr 3, 2013 13:10:54 GMT -5
I agree with everything you all said. With the Rock it was different. We chose him to be the figurehead, face of the company. There were manias where the Rock wasn't in the title picture, but his match still felt like the biggest of the night ie. Hogan and Austin. That was because of who he was. Cena, at times, gets shoved down our throat. EXACTLY! All of the other top stars in the company's histtory were CHOSEN by US. The fans. Yet for some reason now we have Cena, who gets more heel heat than any heel on the roster, as the top guy for the past 10 fn years. Seriously though that stat just made me sick. There is no need for him to hog every single Mania spotlight. That's just plain stupid.
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Post by Devilkiller on Apr 3, 2013 13:17:45 GMT -5
If youre on top of the mountain would you step aside? If anyone of you's had a chance to headline Wrestlemania you'd do it in a heartbeat. Don't get me wrong Cena is by no means my favourite but he is a fan after all - just living the dream After 9 WMs(Including WM 29) of being in the Main Event/WWE Title picture? Giving younger guys a chance to prove themselves? Yes I would.
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Post by billyboytoobs on Apr 3, 2013 13:20:52 GMT -5
but if you step aside you're risking falling away for good, every match could be your last and I'd wanna be top of the card. Not to mention he'd lose money. Think about your job - would you take a demotion and a wage cut?
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Post by Devilkiller on Apr 3, 2013 13:24:13 GMT -5
He wouldn't get wage cut, because he'd bring up the IC title, as well as draw more crowds to watch during the IC matches instead of having them walk away (I watch but eh) He'd also be bigger because he would have held the Tag titles, the WWE, WHC, US and IC. I'm not sure what that's called, but isn't that called sonething? Grand slam? Idk. Anyway, he'd bring up the IC title while not looking weak.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 13:27:23 GMT -5
Cena sucks.
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Post by billyboytoobs on Apr 3, 2013 13:29:14 GMT -5
mate I totally wish he would do this but its not gonna happen. The wwe title has gotta be more lucrative than the IC belt surely otherwise you'd get Barrett being the top earner out of the full time roster and I just don't see it
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Post by Chip on Apr 3, 2013 13:33:22 GMT -5
thats.....incredible.
they are really trying to sell us that Cena is "down and out"? THAT is more insulting than the fact he's been a part of the main event of every WM for the last 10 years.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Apr 5, 2013 17:10:04 GMT -5
thats.....incredible. they are really trying to sell us that Cena is "down and out"? THAT is more insulting than the fact he's been a part of the main event of every WM for the last 10 years. The worst part is that it could be a brilliant story. After Cena lost at WM28, I was actually interested in him for the first time in who knows how long. Then they had him win the majority of his matches that weren't for the WWE Title, even winning MITB. The redemption story, with big losses and his divorce, but winning the Rumble and facing The Rock, finally beating his rival and reclaiming the WWE Championship would have been a fine tale. Sure it would have Cena overcoming the odds, but following a down year, it would have been fine. Instead we got Cena's normal booking and WWE trying to rewrite history and say what a bad year he had.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 17:15:44 GMT -5
Why should Cena step down? Hogan, Austin, Rock, Triple H, HBK, Bret Hart none of these guys ever stepped down back to being an IC Title. He's the Number 1 draw for a reason. However much you guys want Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose in a 2 hour Iron-Match to headline Wrestlemania it isn't going to happen.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Apr 6, 2013 9:35:45 GMT -5
Why should Cena step down? Hogan, Austin, Rock, Triple H, HBK, Bret Hart none of these guys ever stepped down back to being an IC Title. Triple H did win the IC title for a couple months in 2001, but that was as part of the mega-heel duo w/Austin where they held a bunch of titles. Your point remains. The only guys that ever really went back to the IC division after a major title win is ones like Jericho and Miz who have that stink of not-quite main-event on them... And Sheamus won the US title during his decline as a heel, but has been built back up as a face. Very true. I wonder people don't just stick to watching ROH instead of wishing WWE would turn into it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 9:40:47 GMT -5
Why should Cena step down? Hogan, Austin, Rock, Triple H, HBK, Bret Hart none of these guys ever stepped down back to being an IC Title. He's the Number 1 draw for a reason. However much you guys want Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose in a 2 hour Iron-Match to headline Wrestlemania it isn't going to happen.
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