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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 7:56:53 GMT -5
quite frankly as long as 1)Nic Cage isn't in it it 2)isn't played for laughs 3)nic cage isn't in it it is guaranteed to be better.Cage was WAY too old to be Blaze but that was only one of the problems...and GR doesn't have to be some R-Rated movie.....it could easily pass at 12A. I'd like to see someone like Michael Pitt cast as GR. Someone who is a little less known but is a great actor. ah not bad......I would cast someone with a more bad boy vibe to them though..... who would you all cast as The Sub Mariner?Eric from True Blood(Alexander Skarsgard) would be my ideal choice.
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Post by Jacob on May 4, 2013 8:19:52 GMT -5
I'd like to see someone like Michael Pitt cast as GR. Someone who is a little less known but is a great actor. ah not bad......I would cast someone with a more bad boy vibe to them though..... who would you all cast as The Sub Mariner?Eric from True Blood(Alexander Skarsgard) would be my ideal choice. Yeah, Alexander Skarsgård is a great choice or I'd go for Dominic West. He has that look about him.
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on May 4, 2013 8:36:04 GMT -5
Best they could do with these returned characters so far is to give us ONE, R Rated Adult Orientated phase in Phase 4 or 5 & do Marvel Knights. Solo Blade, Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider & Moonknight films building to the Marvel Knights team up.
By the time Disney have made all their kiddy cash from phases 1, 2 & 3, I don't think it would hurt the bank balance to do this & worry about not making money off kids coming to see the films.
Hardcore comic book readers will definitely go & the general audience that enjoyed the first lot of Blades, Punisher's , Ghost Rider's & Daredevil will no doubt go see them if they liked the original lot, after all, Blade was enjoyed by many a non comic book fan.
They won't make phase 1, 2 or 3 type money being R Rated, but they won't bomb either. Definitely worth a risk!
And I don't want Disney worrying or Bullcrapting in not doing it because it won't make money like the movies the kids can attend.
Serious Super Hero movies made for adults CAN WORK with the right minds at the helm & with being creative.
I definitely don't see any of the Knights type characters working being toned down for kids or for teaming up with the Avengers, as much as I'd like to see that myself, because they'd be watered down versions of the characters to do that. I'd accept toned down versions obviously to see them team up with other Marvel Heroes, but one phase at least should be aimed at for the adult generation.
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Post by Jacob on May 4, 2013 8:49:45 GMT -5
Best they could do with these returned characters so far is to give us ONE, R Rated Adult Orientated phase in Phase 4 or 5 & do Marvel Knights. Solo Blade, Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider & Moonknight films building to the Marvel Knights team up. By the time Disney have made all their kiddy cash from phases 1, 2 & 3, I don't think it would hurt the bank balance to do this & worry about not making money off kids coming to see the films. Hardcore comic book readers will definitely go & the general audience that enjoyed the first lot of Blades, Punisher's , Ghost Rider's & Daredevil will no doubt go see them if they liked the original lot, after all, Blade was enjoyed by many a non comic book fan. They won't make phase 1, 2 or 3 type money being R Rated, but they won't bomb either. Definitely worth a risk! And I don't want Disney worrying or Bullcrapting in not doing it because it won't make money like the movies the kids can attend. Serious Super Hero movies made for adults CAN WORK with the right minds at the helm & with being creative. I definitely don't see any of the Knights type characters working being toned down for kids or for teaming up with the Avengers, as much as I'd like to see that myself, because they'd be watered down versions of the characters to do that. I'd accept toned down versions obviously to see them team up with other Marvel Heroes, but one phase at least should be aimed at for the adult generation. If they do go with the Marvel Knights idea, it won't be from Dinsey. They'll sell to another studio. Disney wouldn't tarnish their family friendly reputation by putting out an R rated movie. If they wanted to do that, they'd have to sell to another studio, which is fine, but at least they have more freedom with the rights now, so they could sell to Universal for example but on the deal that Feige and Marvel Studios produces along side them to keep in with the vision that the MCU has created.
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on May 4, 2013 8:56:14 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't see how it would tarnish there name because whilst most of us know Disney owns Marvel, it's Marvel's / Marvel Studios name on the film, I hate the technicality that it could tarnish Disney's name, but whatever.
Selling on to other studios is fine if they go the R Rated route, but they'd have to select very, VERY carefully, I'd probably leave that decision down to Feige. Don't want anymore Marvel properties getting butchered like FOX & SONY do.
And they need to be set in the same continuity / MCU, because even if these movies were made for adults, they'll have all seen all the PG-13 slate of Marvel Studios films.
As for casting, I doubt we'll get more than one Daredevil film, so, I'm gonna say Michael C. Hall.
Honestly, every time I watch Dexter, I just see Matt Murdock in his Face & think he would look terrific in the Business Suit & in the Daredevil costume. I think he'd bring some brilliant acting & credibility to the role as well.
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Post by Jacob on May 4, 2013 9:07:57 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't see how it would tarnish there name because whilst most of us know Disney owns Marvel, it's Marvel's / Marvel Studios name on the film, I hate the technicality that it could tarnish Disney's name, but whatever. Selling on to other studios is fine if they go the R Rated route, but they'd have to select very, VERY carefully, I'd probably leave that decision down to Feige. Don't want anymore Marvel properties getting butchered like FOX & SONY do. And they need to be set in the same continuity / MCU, because even if these movies were made for adults, they'll have all seen all the PG-13 slate of Marvel Studios films. As for casting, I doubt we'll get more than one Daredevil film, so, I'm gonna say Michael C. Hall. Honestly, every time I watch Dexter, I just see Matt Murdock in his Face & think he would look terrific in the Business Suit & in the Daredevil costume. I think he'd bring some brilliant acting & credibility to the role as well. Disney is a family aimed company, there would be a huge amount of backlash towards them from their investors and probably parents if they released an R rated movie. It will never happen unless someone changed R Rated to stand for 'Really fun' lol. They certainly wouldn't dedicate a whole phase to adult Marvel movies. If done right with with right studio, cast and director and as long as Fegie served as a consultant on the movies, I don't see it being a problem, but there is no way in this life time we'll ever see an R rated Disney movie and it's not about not needing the money or taking a risk, it's all about, as I said, how people will look at the company.
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Post by Jacob on May 4, 2013 9:10:07 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't see how it would tarnish there name because whilst most of us know Disney owns Marvel, it's Marvel's / Marvel Studios name on the film, I hate the technicality that it could tarnish Disney's name, but whatever. Selling on to other studios is fine if they go the R Rated route, but they'd have to select very, VERY carefully, I'd probably leave that decision down to Feige. Don't want anymore Marvel properties getting butchered like FOX & SONY do. And they need to be set in the same continuity / MCU, because even if these movies were made for adults, they'll have all seen all the PG-13 slate of Marvel Studios films. As for casting, I doubt we'll get more than one Daredevil film, so, I'm gonna say Michael C. Hall. Honestly, every time I watch Dexter, I just see Matt Murdock in his Face & think he would look terrific in the Business Suit & in the Daredevil costume. I think he'd bring some brilliant acting & credibility to the role as well. Disney is a family aimed company, there would be a huge amount of backlash towards them from their investors and probably parents if they released an R rated movie. It will never happen unless someone changed R Rated to stand for 'Really fun' lol. They certainly wouldn't dedicate a whole phase to adult Marvel movies. If done right with with right studio, cast and director and as long as Fegie served as a consultant on the movies, I don't see it being a problem, but there is no way in this life time we'll ever see an R rated Disney movie and it's not about not needing the money or taking a risk, it's all about, as I said, how people will look at the company. Also, I agree with you about Michael C Hall being Matt Murdock, I've thought that for a long time, aswel. He looks perfect for the role.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 6:38:05 GMT -5
Daredevil/GR can be huge for them but again they need to proceed carefully and select their casting and directors correctly.
in fairness its something MS are great at so Im eager to see what the craic will be here.
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Post by Jacob on May 5, 2013 7:16:56 GMT -5
Okay, so moving away from the MCU for a moment, has anybody been following the production of Spider-man 2? They're currently shooting on location in Rochester, New York and they've spent the weekend filming an epic police chase that from the looks of it, rivals the one at the beginning of TDRK.
I honestly think this movie is going to be the suprise superhero hit of next year. Marc Webb really seems to know what he's doing and is proving himself as a world class director.
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 5, 2013 12:54:17 GMT -5
Disney used to own Miramax, several R Rated movies were released under Miramax while Disney owned them so yeah.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 13:06:45 GMT -5
Okay, so moving away from the MCU for a moment, has anybody been following the production of Spider-man 2? They're currently shooting on location in Rochester, New York and they've spent the weekend filming an epic police chase that from the looks of it, rivals the one at the beginning of TDRK. I honestly think this movie is going to be the suprise superhero hit of next year. Marc Webb really seems to know what he's doing and is proving himself as a world class director. after seeing what he was capable of with ASM I cant wait for part II.its gonna be aces.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 13:15:26 GMT -5
Disney is a family aimed company, there would be a huge amount of backlash towards them from their investors and probably parents if they released an R rated movie. It will never happen unless someone changed R Rated to stand for 'Really fun' lol. They certainly wouldn't dedicate a whole phase to adult Marvel movies. If done right with with right studio, cast and director and as long as Fegie served as a consultant on the movies, I don't see it being a problem, but there is no way in this life time we'll ever see an R rated Disney movie and it's not about not needing the money or taking a risk, it's all about, as I said, how people will look at the company. Also, I agree with you about Michael C Hall being Matt Murdock, I've thought that for a long time, aswel. He looks perfect for the role. I've never thought of that. That would be amazing. He fits the character so well.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 18:12:00 GMT -5
yes Hall would be great for Murdock......
so thats
Michael C Hall:Daredevil Alexander Skaarsgard:Sub Mariner
man Im loving this fantasy casting.and Ill tell ya this Im heading back to True Blood for Johnny Cage......Ryan Kwanten who plays Jason Stackhouse would be perfect IMO for Johnny Cage.
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on May 5, 2013 20:53:22 GMT -5
Some Cast suggestions for Future Marvel Movies. You get these ALL the time, but, some people just pick their favourite actors or actresses that they like, where as I try to make choices based on either Acting, Whether they look like the Character, have both or could probably pull off the fighting style of said character.
Some names will appear more than once if there are a few Marvel characters I think an actor or actress could play.
Black Panther:
Chiwetel Ejiofor or Michael Jai White
T'Chaka:
Djimon Honsou, Peter Mensah or Denzel Washington
Erik Killmonger:
Former WWE Wrestler Shad Gaspard
Ant-Man:
Nathan Fillion, Aaron Eckhart, Patrick Wilson, Adrien Brody, Alan Tudyk, Josh Holloway, Bradley Cooper, Jensen Ackles, Daniel Radcliffe
Some of the names listed above could be potential for Hank Pym, Scott Lang or Erin O'Grady versions of Ant-Man.
The Wasp:
Gemma Aterton, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Rashida Jones, Anna Kendrick, Morena Baccarin or Zooey Deschanel
Ms. Marvel:
Ali Larter, Claire Danes
Luke Cage:
Terry Crews, Dwayne Johnson, Chiwetel Ejiofor (If not cast as Black Panther), Michael Jai White (If not cast as Black Panther), Billy Brown or Idris Elba
Iron Fist:
Eric Gable, Charlie Hunnam, Ray Park, Reuban Langdon, Alex Pettyfer, Josh Holloway or Ryan Gosling
Daredevil:
Michael C. Hall, Matthew Fox, Damian Lewis or Aaron Eckhart (If not cast as Ant-Man)
Venom:
Dominic West
Doctor Strange:
Adrian Brody (If not cast as Ant-Man), Liam Neeson, Joseph Fiennes, Johnny Depp, Jim Caviezel, Viggo Mortansen, Jon Hamm, Ed Norton (VERY Doubtful, I know), Richard Armitage, Patrick Dempsey or Michael Riley.
The Punisher:
Clive Owen, Tayor Sheridan
Tony Stark / Iron Man: (Eventual RDJ replacement)
Max Greenfield, Dominic Cooper, Mike Faiola or Chris Pine
Johnny Storm / Human Torch:
Warren Kole, Ryan Kwanten, Jason Dohring, Nico Tortorella, Michael Muhney, Beau Mirchoff, Ryan Hansen, Alex Pettyfer or Brett Davern
Reed Richards / Mr. Fantastic:
Hugh Laurie, Kyle Secor
The Sandman:
Taylor Sheridan
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Post by Tye Hyll on May 5, 2013 23:37:23 GMT -5
Winstead is my choice for Wasp. She said she wants to do a Marvel movie but only with a director she likes and well she obviously likes Edgar Wright.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2013 8:33:51 GMT -5
www.aintitcool.com/node/62237I genuinely hate when they do this.and before somebody calls me racist or ignorant or whatever I would feel the same disappointment if any of the following Marvel Comic book non caucasians were cast as white folks.I just feel its crap. Shaman Storm James Rhodes/War Machine Blade Black panther Luke Cage Patriot Bishop M Thunderbird Warpath Sunspot this just wont be the FF to me.......as said above somewhere Ryan Kwanten would be perfect.dont mind as much when it minor characters but it still bugs me to some extent.
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Post by 500DaysofNight on May 6, 2013 11:33:06 GMT -5
A Daredevil/Punisher film would be amazing if done right. Both have a common enemy in the Kingpin, but Daredevil does not approve of the Punisher's "methods" and have some run-in themselves.
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on May 6, 2013 12:20:13 GMT -5
www.aintitcool.com/node/62237I genuinely hate when they do this.and before somebody calls me racist or ignorant or whatever I would feel the same disappointment if any of the following Marvel Comic book non caucasians were cast as white folks.I just feel its crap. Shaman Storm James Rhodes/War Machine Blade Black panther Luke Cage Patriot Bishop M Thunderbird Warpath Sunspot this just wont be the FF to me.......as said above somewhere Ryan Kwanten would be perfect.dont mind as much when it minor characters but it still bugs me to some extent. Totally agree! As I said elsewhere..... "This is getting absolutely ridiculous now! I know it shouldn't matter the skin colour of a person & it should be gone on their acting merit alone, which is right & fair enough, but I don't think it's racist to want the characters to be played by an actor or actress with the right ethnic origin. Unless a Black counter part has been created in the comics (Ala, Ultimate Nick Fury ), then Black actors shouldn't be cast in that role unless Marvel or D.C. draw up a new take / origin on the characters ethnicity in the comics first. If Marvel Comics had introduced a Black Heimdall, Black Max Dillon / Electro or Black Johnny Storm / Human Torch in the comics FIRST or D.C. had introduced a Black version of Perry White in the comics FIRST, then casting Black actors for those roles would be absolutely fine & dandy, but there are no Black origins in the comics for those characters. At least Marvel Comics wrote & drew up a Black Nick Fury FIRST (Which definitely resembled Sam Jackson in the first place ) so he was ready made & created for the films. It should be by no means seen as racist to want the right ethnicity of people to be cast as the right roles. I absolutely love Idris Elba, Jamie Foxx, etc & can let it slide that the characters they are playing weren't originally Black in the firs place, but there are roles like Black Panther, Luke Cage, etc needing filling & could have done with the likes of those roles being filled by those guys, Idris would have been an awesome Luke Cage for example. If this happens, they're either going to have to make Sue Storm Black as well or they are going to have to be giving both characters whole new different origin stories." And just like JokerFC, I wouldn't be happy if they started casting White Actors or Actresses for the likes of Black Panther, Luke Cage, Storm, Bishop, John Stewart, Cyborg, Falcon, etc.
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Post by rvd_mr_ppv on May 7, 2013 17:41:38 GMT -5
Oh dear, not so good IF true! www.deadline.com/2013/05/robert-downey-jr-avengers-marvel-negotiations-fight/Marvel can be quite stingy & tight with Cash with people unless your name is RDJ. What they did to Terrence Howard was a joke, well, if the way he portrays his story is to be true anyways. Whilst Marvel might not have wanted Disney's money to do Oscar campaigns, they better hurry up & run to Disney to foot the bill to increase the rest of the casts pay cheques ASAP!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 17:54:56 GMT -5
I reckon its just a storm in a teacup personally.all these stories about fights etc are popping up because of the overwhelming success so far.
it will be all ironed out by Avengers II time.
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