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Post by slappy on May 23, 2013 1:32:32 GMT -5
posting pictures of a girl naked against her will on the internet is a bit different than expressing your opinion musically though, right? Not really, both are expressing themselves in a way on the internet. If you going to try to start an argument with me over something you don't know please just stop. -.- How can you compare someone writing a song to uploading a private photo of someone who didn't give permission for the picture to be posted?
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Post by Darkhawk on May 23, 2013 2:44:23 GMT -5
Not really, both are expressing themselves in a way on the internet. If you going to try to start an argument with me over something you don't know please just stop. -.- How can you compare someone writing a song to uploading a private photo of someone who didn't give permission for the picture to be posted? Both use the internet for their own purpose. The guy use it of him posting his video of his bombing threat song. The guy on twitter asked who ever hastag him he would post the pictures of the girls. They're both used the internet regardless if it's different or not. If the FBI is going to make an example off the kid for posting nude pics, no doubt they're going to do the same with this kid. Also the kid on twitter is a sophmore and is going to be claimed as a "sex offender" for the rest of his life and for having child pornography, I heard the girls are going to be in trouble as well. Are you guys really going to over this with me? I didn't really have to share the story of what's going on over here, I just gave my opinion jeez guys. I know you love to argue with people on here Slappy, I've seen ya plenty of times, I'm surprise you haven't gotten a warning or anything though. Oh well..
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Post by slappy on May 23, 2013 2:50:27 GMT -5
I just don't see how you can't see the difference in someone posting a song they wrote and someone uploading the private pictures of someone. Now that you say they are underage, they definitely should get in trouble. There definitely is a difference between writing a song and posting lewd photos of minors.
And every time I post something someone has to chime in that I'm arguing when that's clearly not the case. Yeah, I love engaging in debates here. If that's wrong then why even allow threads to be created for discussion?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 23, 2013 6:32:52 GMT -5
How can you compare someone writing a song to uploading a private photo of someone who didn't give permission for the picture to be posted? Both use the internet for their own purpose. The guy use it of him posting his video of his bombing threat song. The guy on twitter asked who ever hastag him he would post the pictures of the girls. They're both used the internet regardless if it's different or not. If the FBI is going to make an example off the kid for posting nude pics, no doubt they're going to do the same with this kid. Also the kid on twitter is a sophmore and is going to be claimed as a "sex offender" for the rest of his life and for having child pornography, I heard the girls are going to be in trouble as well. Are you guys really going to over this with me? I didn't really have to share the story of what's going on over here, I just gave my opinion jeez guys. I know you love to argue with people on here Slappy, I've seen ya plenty of times, I'm surprise you haven't gotten a warning or anything though. Oh well.. No, there is a huge gigantic difference between posting pictures of underage girls without their consent and writing a Facebook post saying you are going to blow stuff up with nothing at all to back it up.
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Post by Chip on May 23, 2013 8:15:20 GMT -5
what a ing moron....seriously. you're using a terrorist attack as fodder for a terrible attempt at writing a rap song he's not gonna get 20 years, but he deserves some kind of punishment, he doesn't deserve to be turned into some kind of internet celebrity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that every person can just say whatever they want without consequence. If you're talking about bombing Boston A MONTH after someone ACTUALLY set off a bomb in Boston you're going to get the FBI at your house. That's something any sane, rational human being has to understand.
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Post by k5 on May 23, 2013 10:29:13 GMT -5
How can you compare someone writing a song to uploading a private photo of someone who didn't give permission for the picture to be posted? Both use the internet for their own purpose. The guy use it of him posting his video of his bombing threat song. The guy on twitter asked who ever hastag him he would post the pictures of the girls. They're both used the internet regardless if it's different or not. If the FBI is going to make an example off the kid for posting nude pics, no doubt they're going to do the same with this kid. Also the kid on twitter is a sophmore and is going to be claimed as a "sex offender" for the rest of his life and for having child pornography, I heard the girls are going to be in trouble as well. Are you guys really going to over this with me? I didn't really have to share the story of what's going on over here, I just gave my opinion jeez guys. I know you love to argue with people on here Slappy, I've seen ya plenty of times, I'm surprise you haven't gotten a warning or anything though. Oh well.. slappy loves to debate conversations, there is a huge difference between debating and arguing. just like there is a huge difference in posting pictures of a girl against her will/while she's under age to making songs that express your feelings. if you can't see that, that's you, not us. you had a lot of nerve trying to warn me not to start an argument with you while you were the wrongly informed one.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 10:47:30 GMT -5
He did nothing wrong. He should be released. Talking about something is not the same as doing something. If they arrested someone for every time they threatened violence in a song, The Dixie Chicks would be in jail for killing Earl. But if he says this, he doesn't get punished and then later actually does it then they are likely to get in trouble for not punishing him.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 23, 2013 10:49:46 GMT -5
He did nothing wrong. He should be released. Talking about something is not the same as doing something. If they arrested someone for every time they threatened violence in a song, The Dixie Chicks would be in jail for killing Earl. But if he says this, he doesn't get punished and then later actually does it then they are likely to get in trouble for not punishing him. Yup. Which is why you investigate him now. If you go around punishing people for what they might do then you can toss all of us in jail right now. We all might break the law. We probably won't, but we have the potential to.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 11:00:31 GMT -5
But if he says this, he doesn't get punished and then later actually does it then they are likely to get in trouble for not punishing him. Yup. Which is why you investigate him now. If you go around punishing people for what they might do then you can toss all of us in jail right now. We all might break the law. We probably won't, but we have the potential to. Yeah but when you're threatening to kill, what... hundreds, thousands? of people then I'd say you should see the inside of a jail cell for a long time.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 23, 2013 11:25:59 GMT -5
Yup. Which is why you investigate him now. If you go around punishing people for what they might do then you can toss all of us in jail right now. We all might break the law. We probably won't, but we have the potential to. Yeah but when you're threatening to kill, what... hundreds, thousands? of people then I'd say you should see the inside of a jail cell for a long time. Even if it's obvious to everyone that the threat is completely empty. This guy has no bomb making skills. There's no evidence that he had any plans to build a bomb and they found no bomb making material. So now we're going to put people in jail for 20 years for making vague threats that they can't back up? That's insane. If I say I'm going to go to Vegas and burn the city to the ground is that a threat or me just saying I'm going to party extremely hard. To some people, that's a threat. So I'm going to spend the next two decades in jail even though there is no evidence at all that I had any intent to actually commit arsons in Las Vegas.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 11:34:15 GMT -5
Yeah but when you're threatening to kill, what... hundreds, thousands? of people then I'd say you should see the inside of a jail cell for a long time. Even if it's obvious to everyone that the threat is completely empty. This guy has no bomb making skills. There's no evidence that he had any plans to build a bomb and they found no bomb making material. So now we're going to put people in jail for 20 years for making vague threats that they can't back up? That's insane. If I say I'm going to go to Vegas and burn the city to the ground is that a threat or me just saying I'm going to party extremely hard. To some people, that's a threat. So I'm going to spend the next two decades in jail even though there is no evidence at all that I had any intent to actually commit arsons in Las Vegas. I don't think he should get 20 years, or anything absurd like that. But it would be highly inappropriate if he doesn't spend at least a couple of months in prison
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 11:38:13 GMT -5
I'd put him in jail for the rap alone.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 23, 2013 12:03:21 GMT -5
Even if it's obvious to everyone that the threat is completely empty. This guy has no bomb making skills. There's no evidence that he had any plans to build a bomb and they found no bomb making material. So now we're going to put people in jail for 20 years for making vague threats that they can't back up? That's insane. If I say I'm going to go to Vegas and burn the city to the ground is that a threat or me just saying I'm going to party extremely hard. To some people, that's a threat. So I'm going to spend the next two decades in jail even though there is no evidence at all that I had any intent to actually commit arsons in Las Vegas. I don't think he should get 20 years, or anything absurd like that. But it would be highly inappropriate if he doesn't spend at least a couple of months in prison So, making vague empty threats is against the law now?
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Post by RSCTom on May 23, 2013 12:20:58 GMT -5
'I'm like the second plane that made the towers face off. That sh*t that let you know it's really not a game, dog.' - Mos Def in Close Edge. (one of my favorite hip-hop artists)
When do tragedies/attacks become ok to rap or talk about? Are they ever not ok? Interesting and difficult question. To me, verbally, just about anything is fair game. Text with intent is different.
The most offensive thing to me about this is this kid who deserves NO attention because of his embarrassingly horrific rap skills and should be encouraged to find something he's good at like probably an odd job in a cardboard box factory now has a bunch of eyes (and the eyes of his peers which is probably what matters to him most) on him.
It isn't as alarming as it's being made out. It's a punk kid with a big mouth who 'stepped out of line' for a shock. The best he needs is a suspension from school and for it to be clear that he's terrible at his hobby.
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Post by Epic Z on May 23, 2013 13:50:20 GMT -5
I want to know what they think they are going to find with his xbox hard drive. hahahaha
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Post by slappy on May 23, 2013 14:42:35 GMT -5
what a ing moron....seriously. you're using a terrorist attack as fodder for a terrible attempt at writing a rap song he's not gonna get 20 years, but he deserves some kind of punishment, he doesn't deserve to be turned into some kind of internet celebrity. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that every person can just say whatever they want without consequence. If you're talking about bombing Boston A MONTH after someone ACTUALLY set off a bomb in Boston you're going to get the FBI at your house. That's something any sane, rational human being has to understand. But he wasn't talking about bombing Boston. He didn't say anything specific, he didn't mention shooting or bombing or even a location. It was a general statement. I agree, maybe investigate to see if he's trouble (which they have searched his place and have found nothing other then some "troubled" facebook posts where he says he hates politics, the government and Obama which if that is a crime then I'd be locked up) and then if he's not then release him. And as I pointed out Massachusetts law says the threats have to be specific which these obviously weren't.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 14:48:28 GMT -5
"It's kinda hard when you grew up in the hood" LOL yeah right kid, your rap blows and you lie.mgood job.
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Post by CM Poor on May 23, 2013 20:21:44 GMT -5
He should be put in jail for being from Methuen. Not a single good thing has ever been uttered in the same breath as that hell hole of a town.
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Post by Fleet Foxes on May 24, 2013 0:08:20 GMT -5
Put him in jail for being a dumb teenager? Last time I checked, making bomb threats and claiming you will murder people is against the law. It's called making terrorist threats. He was not quoting a movie, this was not a line from one of his "raps", this was a post made on facebook, which in the age of social media that we live in, need to be TAKEN seriously. 99% of the crap kids say on facebook is BS that never happens, but all that needs to happen is ONE time a kid says something on facebook and then goes out and does it and we've got another tragedy on our hands. People say "ah he's a dumb kid and kids never do this stuff anyway" like that's an acceptable reason to write this off as "boys will be boys"....to me, that's a horrible oversight. Yeah, mass shootings, bombings, terror attacks...they happen VERY infrequently in the United States of America. But when they do happen, they are BAD. We should take EVERY threat seriously because you never know which one might be THE one. . Should it be investigated? Yes. Should he be put in jail for it so that the rest of his life is ruined by a stupid Facebook post? No
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Post by ahunter8056 on May 27, 2013 6:47:52 GMT -5
People are probably going to hate me for saying this, but I ALWAYS associate rappers with crime and illiteracy.
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