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Post by A Flair for the Gold on Jun 19, 2013 11:43:55 GMT -5
Well, I for one agree with you on some of the stuff you have said, but the thing is - when it is not promoting kid friendly stuff, it just sports that it isn't WWE fault for the kid to be watching, but the parents fault if they are watching something that is promoting to an older demographic. Now I'm not saying all kids will not listen and still continue, but at least then it wouldn't be WWE that is getting stones thrown at them. I'm guessing you're very young and you don't remember the attitude era, but what you're saying is silly. WWE got a lot of stones thrown at them when the show was TV-14. Far more than they do today. Children will always watch wrestling and copy what they see -- all WWE can do is minimise that damage, with the don't try this at home campaigns and acting somewhat responsibly with the TV content in the modern era. That's why the less blood/fire/vehicular assault/guns/blades on the show, the better. Plus, I'm guessing you only started watching around 2009, but the secret that nobody talks about is that every long-term fan who complains about PG was complaining about wrestling for years before it even went PG. Just like bringing back Rock, bringing back Brock, pushing Punk, pushing Bryan, hiring various ROH guys, having longer matches and no storylines, etc etc... All of these things that people on the Internet say wrestling should be doing, they happen, and the same people still hate it. There is no quick fix to making people who hate wrestling like it again, even when you give them what they ask for. The hatred for PG and three-hour Raws is just idiots who hate wrestling now, but can't stop watching, and so they look for scapegoats to blame instead of just watching something else on Monday nights. PG doesn't make wrestling bad. Bad writing and/or bad performers make wrestling bad. exactly agree about the IRC. RAW went 3 hours to develope stories better, and have the occasional longer match. i, for one, don't see why the hardore IRC guys have so much sand in their vajayjay's for. you give 'em what they want, and they piss and moan anyways. and yes, WWE plays the "don't try this at home" to cover their buttocks. TNA and ROH, that i have seen, don't. |
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Post by done on Jun 19, 2013 12:02:01 GMT -5
Well, I for one agree with you on some of the stuff you have said, but the thing is - when it is not promoting kid friendly stuff, it just sports that it isn't WWE fault for the kid to be watching, but the parents fault if they are watching something that is promoting to an older demographic. Now I'm not saying all kids will not listen and still continue, but at least then it wouldn't be WWE that is getting stones thrown at them. I'm guessing you're very young and you don't remember the attitude era, but what you're saying is silly. WWE got a lot of stones thrown at them when the show was TV-14. Far more than they do today. Children will always watch wrestling and copy what they see -- all WWE can do is minimise that damage, with the don't try this at home campaigns and acting somewhat responsibly with the TV content in the modern era. That's why the less blood/fire/vehicular assault/guns/blades on the show, the better. Plus, I'm guessing you only started watching around 2009, but the secret that nobody talks about is that every long-term fan who complains about PG was complaining about wrestling for years before it even went PG. Just like bringing back Rock, bringing back Brock, pushing Punk, pushing Bryan, hiring various ROH guys, having longer matches and no storylines, etc etc... All of these things that people on the Internet say wrestling should be doing, they happen, and the same people still hate it. There is no quick fix to making people who hate wrestling like it again, even when you give them what they ask for. The hatred for PG and three-hour Raws is just idiots who hate wrestling now, but can't stop watching, and so they look for scapegoats to blame instead of just watching something else on Monday nights. PG doesn't make wrestling bad. Bad writing and/or bad performers make wrestling bad. Yes I am very young(16) I have heard of some of the cases, like the one kid back in like 2000 that killed like a 3 year old by preforming a wrestling move. I didn't start watching till 07, but before then I was truly anti-wrestling. But what I am saying is that when the product is pushing itself more to kids and then something like this now happens, it's harder for WWE to explain themselves other than saying we have those "Don't try this at home ads" while if this wasn't all targeted at kids, WWE wouldn't get many of these cases - and would be easier to explain. Sure they'll get the swearing and what not stuff, but wasn't that something that was not truly an issue since they had the censored versions on the Saturday and Sunday programmings. I have no complaints for Raw being three hours(I know you're not implying this on me) but when it originally started a lot of time had been wasted on it, but I must admit that now they are making good use of the three hours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 12:12:46 GMT -5
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Post by Rob on Jun 19, 2013 12:24:41 GMT -5
They actually showed this story on my local news station on tv. Not a good look on Wrestling right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 13:02:55 GMT -5
This makes me sick it upset me. Me and my cousins (boy) 4 years younger wrestle but we fake it like he will punch close to me then ill fall back but we dont make contact and when we do we are slow and careful but now im going to re think doing it at all all together....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2013 14:31:48 GMT -5
It is part WWE's fault. They make Rey, Kane and Sin Cara masks. The kids are hardly going to wear them and not attempt to wrestle.
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Post by J12 on Jun 19, 2013 14:38:33 GMT -5
I'm guessing you're very young and you don't remember the attitude era, but what you're saying is silly. WWE got a lot of stones thrown at them when the show was TV-14. Far more than they do today. Children will always watch wrestling and copy what they see -- all WWE can do is minimise that damage, with the don't try this at home campaigns and acting somewhat responsibly with the TV content in the modern era. That's why the less blood/fire/vehicular assault/guns/blades on the show, the better. Plus, I'm guessing you only started watching around 2009, but the secret that nobody talks about is that every long-term fan who complains about PG was complaining about wrestling for years before it even went PG. Just like bringing back Rock, bringing back Brock, pushing Punk, pushing Bryan, hiring various ROH guys, having longer matches and no storylines, etc etc... All of these things that people on the Internet say wrestling should be doing, they happen, and the same people still hate it. There is no quick fix to making people who hate wrestling like it again, even when you give them what they ask for. The hatred for PG and three-hour Raws is just idiots who hate wrestling now, but can't stop watching, and so they look for scapegoats to blame instead of just watching something else on Monday nights. PG doesn't make wrestling bad. Bad writing and/or bad performers make wrestling bad. Yes I am very young(16) I have heard of some of the cases, like the one kid back in like 2000 that killed like a 3 year old by preforming a wrestling move. I didn't start watching till 07, but before then I was truly anti-wrestling. But what I am saying is that when the product is pushing itself more to kids and then something like this now happens, it's harder for WWE to explain themselves other than saying we have those "Don't try this at home ads" while if this wasn't all targeted at kids, WWE wouldn't get many of these cases - and would be easier to explain. Sure they'll get the swearing and what not stuff, but wasn't that something that was not truly an issue since they had the censored versions on the Saturday and Sunday programmings. I have no complaints for Raw being three hours(I know you're not implying this on me) but when it originally started a lot of time had been wasted on it, but I must admit that now they are making good use of the three hours. "Our product isn't for kids" isn't going to be a viable scapegoat in the media's eyes. They're still going to pigeon hole wrestling, and WWE specifically, regardless of what the rating is. If a child wants to watch the show, they'll find a way to watch the show, regardless of whether or not it's TV-PG or TV-14. If a child wants to replicate what he sees on TV, having an edgier, adult-oriented product is not going to change that. These cases usually come down to one of two things - parenting, or mental instability in the perpetrator, which, in many cases, can be linked back to parenting. WWE cannot escape being used as a scapegoat, no matter what they do or how they portray their product. Without going in to detail, because it isn't what this thread is about, WWE's shift to a more family friendly style of programming is just simply better for business. It helps their public image to a certain extent, and it taps into lucrative sponsorship opportunities. |
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Post by MVP Rob on Jun 19, 2013 14:49:51 GMT -5
Well WWE does have those little promo things were it says don't try this at home and well this kid did...
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Post by k5 on Jun 19, 2013 15:24:38 GMT -5
that poor kid is gonna get eaten alive.
the amount of jokes in this thread is a little morbid.
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Post by SuperBradOPig on Jun 19, 2013 15:35:12 GMT -5
Can't blame anyone except himself! WWE says clearly to don't try it! Like Jackass does
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Post by becks007 on Jun 20, 2013 0:54:47 GMT -5
C'mon. His name is Devalon. Anyone with a name that stupid is going to do stupid things. This comment was totally not necessary. What are you 12? |
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Post by 0,Y on Jun 20, 2013 11:25:35 GMT -5
Devalon! Get the tables! Sorry couldn't resist ;[I nearly pissed my pants thanks to that. So thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2013 11:56:50 GMT -5
Watch as RAW go TV-G on monday...
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Post by "Deadman"13tazz13 on Jun 21, 2013 16:10:02 GMT -5
 Bad taste, I know  In all honesty though, where were the parents when this was happening? At 13 years of age you should not have to look after anybody, not even a sibling. Also, if WWE dropped the PG rating, kids shouldn't technically be allowed to watch it. Just sayin' One last though, how can it be classed as "WWE moves" when TNA is also very popular. |
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Post by @HartAttvcks on Jun 21, 2013 16:21:26 GMT -5
wow. If he's 13 he obviously has problems and needs to be checked out.
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Post by becks007 on Jun 21, 2013 21:45:32 GMT -5
Just when RAW was getting good this past Monday.. I hope this news won't make them change any story directions and make things even tamer than it already is....
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jun 22, 2013 8:25:55 GMT -5
The media loves to run stories like this because pro wrestling is an easy target. It wouldn't get the same attention if a kid watched the Olympics and injured someone with a lateral drop. No one would be saying the Olympics is culpable and shouldn't exist. Obviously, this is a case of an intellectually impaired and/or disturbed 13-year-old who wasn't being given the proper supervision.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 22, 2013 12:28:02 GMT -5
I wonder if kids in his school will complain about him not going into the school's yearbook or hall of fame.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 15:17:42 GMT -5
he probably watched payback and saw the 'Please try this at home'
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Post by nDroo73 on Jun 24, 2013 15:51:36 GMT -5
All it would have took was for this kid to say "I was doing Power Rangers moves" .... Then we wouldn't be having this thread drag out and they could pull all that damn power rangers crap from the shelves that provide hiding spots for scalpers when I'm looking for Mattel figs...
Or... The kid could've said UFC while wearing an affliction shirt. Easier to blame UFC, that shizz is real and they could've banned affliction shirts.
Either way, the mom should be questioned. She could've put her son up to it for all we know.... Crazier stuff has happened in today's world.
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