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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Jun 30, 2013 1:14:34 GMT -5
TBH, I don't know why men are discussing a woman's issue. Men don't have the vagina, they don't have babies, they shouldn't get a say. I say leave it to the women to decide. Men have other things to attend to.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 30, 2013 1:36:45 GMT -5
I don't know when it scientifically begins. But I think it begins (in the sense that it has every protection available to every other person) the moment it's born. The moment it is not dependent on the mother and can be taken care of by anyone else in the world. If its life begins at birth then it does not have rights until then. Therefore the one-day-before-birth abortion should be legal. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 30, 2013 1:37:43 GMT -5
TBH, I don't know why men are discussing a woman's issue. Men don't have the vagina, they don't have babies, they shouldn't get a say. I say leave it to the women to decide. Men have other things to attend to. You know, it's almost as if there are peoples' lives at stake...... |
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 30, 2013 1:43:57 GMT -5
I think this topic is definitively a gray area and anybody trying to make it black and white is spinning his or her wheels. If you're going to have laws, then they need to be black and white. You're either committing a crime or you're not. "Gray area" is a bullcrap thing that will get people PUT IN PRISON. You realize that, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 5:07:31 GMT -5
If its still in her belly, sure, why not, I believe is always the woman's choice. So it should be a woman's choice to terminate the life of a child that is capable of crying and breathing and living outside the womb? Good lord... Well if the woman wants to get rid of it in the first place I doubt it's gonna have a great  ing life to begin with. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 30, 2013 7:48:53 GMT -5
TBH, I don't know why men are discussing a woman's issue. Men don't have the vagina, they don't have babies, they shouldn't get a say. I say leave it to the women to decide. Men have other things to attend to. Last time I checked a man had a part in creating that kid. Also a man ends up on the hook for supporting that kid as well. So yeah I think a guy should have a say. Sent from my GT-N8013 using proboards |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 30, 2013 7:51:44 GMT -5
The questions for you are: 1) Should murder be illegal? 2) When does life begin? Because if you believe that life begins ANYTIME before birth, then abortion is murder. Of course murder should be illegal. I don't know when it scientifically begins. But I think it begins (in the sense that it has every protection available to every other person) the moment it's born. The moment it is not dependent on the mother and can be taken care of by anyone else in the world. The way medicine had advanced you can argue that the child can survive outside the wrong six months or so into the pregnancy. Potential for serious health issues, but the child can survive. Sent from my GT-N8013 using proboards |
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 30, 2013 8:08:03 GMT -5
I think this topic is definitively a gray area and anybody trying to make it black and white is spinning his or her wheels. If you're going to have laws, then they need to be black and white. You're either committing a crime or you're not. "Gray area" is a bullcrap thing that will get people PUT IN PRISON. You realize that, right? I'm not talking about the legalities of it, I'm talking about whether it is morally right or wrong. Morally, I don't think there's a definitive argument for either side. People will always disagree on it. I'm not going to argue back-and-forth with anyone on this to try to convince them one way or the other but I think you have to make it legal. |
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Post by slappy on Jun 30, 2013 15:18:48 GMT -5
I don't know when it scientifically begins. But I think it begins (in the sense that it has every protection available to every other person) the moment it's born. The moment it is not dependent on the mother and can be taken care of by anyone else in the world. If its life begins at birth then it does not have rights until then. Therefore the one-day-before-birth abortion should be legal. I don't know why you are trying to get me to say I want the government involved when I've said I don't want it involved. Of course murder should be illegal. I don't know when it scientifically begins. But I think it begins (in the sense that it has every protection available to every other person) the moment it's born. The moment it is not dependent on the mother and can be taken care of by anyone else in the world. The way medicine had advanced you can argue that the child can survive outside the wrong six months or so into the pregnancy. Potential for serious health issues, but the child can survive. Sent from my GT-N8013 using proboards But I'm not saying if it could survive if taken out, I'm saying once birthed. Once it is born then it has full rights. Until that moment the mother gets to decide. |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jun 30, 2013 21:51:38 GMT -5
So it should be a woman's choice to terminate the life of a child that is capable of crying and breathing and living outside the womb? Good lord... Well if the woman wants to get rid of it in the first place I doubt it's gonna have a great ing life to begin with. There are a lot of people out there with awful lives...Should we just go around killing them? |
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