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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 13:09:15 GMT -5
Inducting her would not only do right by her, and the fans, but to the memory of the attitude era. Degeneration X was a stable that came out of the social and progressive influences of the nineties. Sure, Shawn Michaels played a scene stealing braggart and Triple H was a debonair turned brawler, but Chyna was the living embodiment of its anti-establishment sentiment. Without her, they were just two grown men acting semi-homoerotic and a tad childish, which was fun and all. But Chyna's involvement gave an unmeasurable and intrinsic credibility to that stable. Remember when she imitated the big boss man and twirled a baton into the air and caught it? genius. She could of easily became a joke but she didnt. She went on to become a highly competitive IC champ, getting bigger pushes and story lines than they produce for many in the WWE today. She had her own female manager for Christ's sake. And the best and biggest reason to induct her, aside from looking like what wonder woman would look like if she was real, is that the crowd ate it. BEFORE the decided sluttification of the divas division now (barring aj and kaitlyn, cred where its due), and AFTER the acceptance of women in power positions in the 80s, was a time "dont treat me like a woman.." would hit and the crowds, full of men and women and children, would go crazy. She made that happen. She changed the perception of what real wrestler's gender could be. That innovative programming, that reached out to its viewers beyond the 2 hour time slot, into their lives and became household names and ideas, is what people miss about the attitude era. She wasnt THE attitude era, but if you dont mention her within it, you didnt get the point.
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Post by The Hitman on Aug 2, 2013 13:25:59 GMT -5
I just think Triple H deserves to go in by himself first. Wait a few years for DX, its too early. Id rather see Hogan, Hall, and Nash inducted as the n.W.o.
Next years class to me would be
The Rock Ultimate Warrior New World Order Lita Paul Bearer "The Macho Man" Randy Savage
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Post by The Yes Man on Aug 2, 2013 13:32:30 GMT -5
Bearer and Warrior. Maybe Rikishi.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 13:52:11 GMT -5
I just think Triple H deserves to go in by himself first. Wait a few years for DX, its too early. Id rather see Hogan, Hall, and Nash inducted as the n.W.o. Next years class to me would be The Rock Ultimate Warrior New World Order Lita Paul Bearer "The Macho Man" Randy Savage Why would Lita go in before Chyna, with or without DX, Chyna deserves to go in before Lita, refer to my last post.
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Post by DeadManFan92 on Aug 2, 2013 14:03:50 GMT -5
As long as Paul Bearer goes in 2014 and Undertaker inducts him, I don't care what they do with DX.
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 2, 2013 14:17:43 GMT -5
I just think Triple H deserves to go in by himself first. Wait a few years for DX, its too early. Id rather see Hogan, Hall, and Nash inducted as the n.W.o. Next years class to me would be The Rock Ultimate Warrior New World Order Lita Paul Bearer "The Macho Man" Randy Savage Why would Lita go in before Chyna, with or without DX, Chyna deserves to go in before Lita, refer to my last post. I doubt they'd go with two deceased guys in the same year - I'd save Macho & Paul Bearer for different years. And if Hogan's still playing around in TNA (if it's still in business by then) I'd wait on the nWo, as well... Plus, with the exception of Lita - each of the rest of these choices could easily headline a HOF ceremony (Rock, nWo, and Warrior) - remember, they also have to map them out for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, and so on.... and you need a big name for each year. I'd save these and space them out as "Main Events" for future HOF's.... For what it's worth - Larry Zbysko told me personally at Wrestlemania AXXESS that he felt strongly that he'd be inducted next year..... I responded to him that it's all just a big "game of human chess".....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 14:29:06 GMT -5
I just think Triple H deserves to go in by himself first. Wait a few years for DX, its too early. Id rather see Hogan, Hall, and Nash inducted as the n.W.o. Next years class to me would be The Rock Ultimate Warrior New World Order Lita Paul Bearer "The Macho Man" Randy Savage Why would Lita go in before Chyna, with or without DX, Chyna deserves to go in before Lita, refer to my last post. More marketability then Chyna.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 15:05:33 GMT -5
Why would Lita go in before Chyna, with or without DX, Chyna deserves to go in before Lita, refer to my last post. More marketability then Chyna. marketability.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 15:07:49 GMT -5
More marketability then Chyna. marketability. That's all the HOF is dude. With exceptions like Bockwinkle, Inoki, etc. the HOF is just guys that would sell an hour of TV just because the fans want to see them.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 15:14:43 GMT -5
marketability. That's all the HOF is dude. With exceptions like Bockwinkle, Inoki, etc. the HOF is just guys that would sell an hour of TV just because the fans want to see them. Even so, I don't think Lita would sell an hour any more than Chyna. Look at her past with the McMahon's and HHH. It's in the same category as Sammartino and Warrior if he would join the HoF. Controversy creates cash. Chyna would def sell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 15:17:04 GMT -5
That's all the HOF is dude. With exceptions like Bockwinkle, Inoki, etc. the HOF is just guys that would sell an hour of TV just because the fans want to see them. Even so, I don't think Lita would sell an hour any more than Chyna. Look at her past with the McMahon's and HHH. It's in the same category as Sammartino and Warrior if he would join the HoF. Controversy creates cash. Chyna would def sell. True. And your right not her on her own but neither would Trish or Chyna
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 15:51:39 GMT -5
DX going in before Triple H is inducted by himself is truly a stupid idea. Not to mention the whole "Being inducted twice" concept just bugs the ever-living Hell out of me. I agree with this, I think groups being inducted are kind of a joke and the Hall of Fame should just be for wrestlers who had an impact of the industry. They should just make mention of the group when the wrestler gets inducted, like when Triple H does and not induct an entire group because Shawn has already been inducted and I don't think X-Pac should get in.
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Post by Flair Forever on Aug 2, 2013 16:15:01 GMT -5
More marketability then Chyna. marketability. Well I was in your corner trying to back up your argument - and you've been making a good one - but you can't really think the HOF is really only about honoring the old time wrestlers? Of course it has to be marketable. Look, they pretty much have a formula (like everything else) and it's not a bad one, in theory.... 1. Main Event star (or could be a faction, like DX or nWo). 2. 2-3-4 regular former mid-card, semi-main event dudes.... 3. 1 female Diva.... 4. 1 for the "Celebrity Wing"....still waiting on Mr. T... 4. 1 deceased wrestling superstar... (Bearer, Savage, I'd like to see Earthquake go in)... That's it - and they might slip in a no-name here or there, but for the most part - the need names that are or at least "were" - marketable.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 16:37:52 GMT -5
marketability. Well I was in your corner trying to back up your argument - and you've been making a good one - but you can't really think the HOF is really only about honoring the old time wrestlers? Of course it has to be marketable. Look, they pretty much have a formula (like everything else) and it's not a bad one, in theory.... 1. Main Event star (or could be a faction, like DX or nWo). 2. 2-3-4 regular former mid-card, semi-main event dudes.... 3. 1 female Diva.... 4. 1 for the "Celebrity Wing"....still waiting on Mr. T... 4. 1 deceased wrestling superstar... (Bearer, Savage, I'd like to see Earthquake go in)... That's it - and they might slip in a no-name here or there, but for the most part - the need names that are or at least "were" - marketable. You're 100 percent right, but no one can say Chyna won't sell
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 16:38:19 GMT -5
Even so, I don't think Lita would sell an hour any more than Chyna. Look at her past with the McMahon's and HHH. It's in the same category as Sammartino and Warrior if he would join the HoF. Controversy creates cash. Chyna would def sell. True. And your right not her on her own but neither would Trish or Chyna Huh? I don't get what you mean.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 16:42:09 GMT -5
True. And your right not her on her own but neither would Trish or Chyna Huh? I don't get what you mean. Bruno has bad mouthed WWE for years and rejected the HOF for years, you could put job guys in there with him and people would still watch to see Bruno, same with Warrior. Chyna,Lita, Trish don't have the effect for one reason or another .
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 16:47:39 GMT -5
Huh? I don't get what you mean. Bruno has bad mouthed WWE for years and rejected the HOF for years, you could put job guys in there with him and people would still watch to see Bruno, same with Warrior. Chyna,Lita, Trish don't have the effect for one reason or another . I;m not talking about Lita or Trish. I'd say that Chyna has enough bad blood with WWE to sell a HoF
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 17:07:08 GMT -5
Bruno has bad mouthed WWE for years and rejected the HOF for years, you could put job guys in there with him and people would still watch to see Bruno, same with Warrior. Chyna,Lita, Trish don't have the effect for one reason or another . I;m not talking about Lita or Trish. I'd say that Chyna has enough bad blood with WWE to sell a HoF It takes more then bad blood, wrestling fans (casual or not) would like to see Bruno or Warrior or Lita one more time, your the only person I've seen give a squat about Chyna
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Aug 2, 2013 17:13:12 GMT -5
I;m not talking about Lita or Trish. I'd say that Chyna has enough bad blood with WWE to sell a HoF It takes more then bad blood, wrestling fans (casual or not) would like to see Bruno or Warrior or Lita one more time, your the only person I've seen give a squat about Chyna Then you're not looking in the right spot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 23:35:37 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage and Jake Roberts. Warrior seems to be on good terms with WWE now and Jakes getting sober, Randy is still up in the air I guess.
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