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Post by Edge618 on Aug 20, 2013 0:38:42 GMT -5
This isn't about Bryan chasing the title and getting a huge payoff. That's stupid. The chase was the months he spent getting super over, and the pay off should have been him leaving Summer Slam clean with the WWE Championship. Now before anyone gets all butt hurt, I'm not saying what they are doing is bad. But your crazy if you think they are doing this for Bryan.
They are doing this for Randy Orton, HHH, and this whole new group. They are piggy backing off the success that Daniel Bryan has had. Like someone said, it wouldn't mean as much if it were anyone besides Daniel Bryan that they did this too. Bryan is over, he's cemented as being a top guy from now until the next big thing comes along. So why not have another star ride the coat tails of what he has done and become a Joker to his Batman.
The business isn't about ONE guy even though this particular one guy deserves it. He'll get his eventually. But if he had left Summer Slam as WWE Champion, as great as it would have been, it would have benefited one person, Daniel Bryan. This way multiple people will benefit and Bryan will still have his day.
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Post by The Dazzler on Aug 20, 2013 0:44:49 GMT -5
I've never been legit pissed off at a wrestling story line as I have been with this Bryan vs. Corporation one. I was actually furious when the Shield started attacking Bryan, and then HHH goading Bryan to come back in just to get RKO'd. This is what the WWE wants to accomplish and oh boy have they succeeded. In the end, I hope Bryan does end up winning against the corporate suits and finally obtaining his boyhood dream.
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Post by Rob on Aug 20, 2013 0:55:06 GMT -5
I've never been legit pissed off at a wrestling story line as I have been with this Bryan vs. Corporation one. I was actually furious when the Shield started attacking Bryan, and then HHH goading Bryan to come back in just to get RKO'd. This is what the WWE wants to accomplish and oh boy have they succeeded. In the end, I hope Bryan does end up winning against the corporate suits and finally obtaining his boyhood dream. Same here. I havent wanted to reach through the screen to choke out a guy since the attitude era. I was such a mark for these kind of cliff hanger moments with the heels on top. I would go into school the next day and chat about it with friends of mine. I like the fact that the Shield has made themselves relevant again after lingering around for a bit. Who wouldve thought all this would be possible off the popularity of a guy who many people thought would never make it in this company.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 20, 2013 1:03:19 GMT -5
Man, they have really painted Bryan vs the world. To the point where I was hoping someone would run out and help him. He's already the under dog, now it feels like he's the McMahon whipping boy. And how about the 20 minute condescending promo from Triple H. I honestly didn't really care about the whole story that much prior to tonight but I don't know how you can't be rooting for Bryan against the corporate machine at this point. I mean they sucked the life out of that arena. That was pretty compelling stuff.
I absolutely loved what they did with The Shield tonight. I think it helped Ziggler, Big Show, and Bryan and obviously helped The Shield. I honestly think The Shield being the Corporate Muscle is the most productive approach they've taken with them so far. Everything else felt like a warmup act in comparison to what they are about to do for Triple H and Co. Think about it, in one night, we saw the US Champion, Tag Team Champions, and the WWE Champion all being puppeteered by Triple H. They have their stable and seemingly their handpicked champions. I love it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 4:52:18 GMT -5
To everyone comparing this to Austin and The Corporation...I can't recall any time throughout Austin's quest where he came across as looking so weak and naive as Daniel Bryan did tonight. If Vince McMahon invited Austin out to "have a talk" in 1999 do you really think Austin would've come strolling down to the ring not expecting that he was going to be attacked? Bryan just comes across as looking like such a sap through all of this. I think you're nitpicking to a pretty serious degree here, honestly. If the same scenario had occurred in 1999, Austin would have absolutely responded to the challenge and catcalling, even if it meant getting his ass beat. Bryan may have looked naive, or overconfident, or gutsy, but again, I don't see how anything that happened tonight could be construed as him being weak. From a kayfabe standpoint, what is he supposed to do? Stand on the ramp and yell? Not show up? That's how he ends up looking weak. Bryan will get his revenge. He can't win every battle. I completely agree with you in terms of how tonight was handled except the Bryan beatdown. Stone Cold would have went through the superstars and started kicking ass as soon as he got to the Shield and probably would have gotten in the ring before being beatdown. The way they booked it was bad in terms of why would Daniel Bryan trust the Shield to not beat him up after everything they have done to him? He should have ran down there and attacked the Shield before they attacked him, and he should have kept going until the numbers game caught up to him, that would have made it alot better IMO. Ill give credit where credit is duem I loathe Triple H and Randy Orton after the past 48 hours. I think for more reasons then just the storyline lol but they are doing a good job.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 20, 2013 7:30:21 GMT -5
Great Raw tonight. Punk calling out that fat guy was gold and the crowd was going crazy. I agree with the above post that if that was Austin he would have kicked Shield's asses and then gotten a few shots at Orton/HHH/McMahon before eventually getting taken down. Bryan will soon get the upper hand and when he does the crowd will explode. This felt like an Attitude Era moment and I felt like a kid again during the closing moments lol. With Cena gone this could only mean good things for the next couple months.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 20, 2013 7:34:20 GMT -5
I was shocked Raw was this good. I can't recall the last time I didn't change the channel or flash forward. If this is the new standard, then I'm 100% in!
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Post by jessem52 on Aug 20, 2013 7:56:08 GMT -5
We have a couple people to thank for this raw:the creative team, road dogg and this man
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 20, 2013 8:06:30 GMT -5
When was the last time the Raw thread hit 75 pages? I believe the night Flair returned hit over a 100.
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Post by Jamal on Aug 20, 2013 10:52:36 GMT -5
Decent Raw but the 3 hours are such a drag. This show would have been exponentially better had it been 2 hours.
I know I'm beating a dead horse but its fraustrating when the direction is good but you still have this problem.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 20, 2013 13:02:34 GMT -5
Decent Raw but the 3 hours are such a drag. This show would have been exponentially better had it been 2 hours. I know I'm beating a dead horse but its fraustrating when the direction is good but you still have this problem. How would taking an hour of wrestling away benefit the product??? I really don't get why all of you are obsessed with Raw going back to 2 hours...
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Post by Spear Guy on Aug 20, 2013 13:10:08 GMT -5
Decent Raw but the 3 hours are such a drag. This show would have been exponentially better had it been 2 hours. I know I'm beating a dead horse but its fraustrating when the direction is good but you still have this problem. How would taking an hour of wrestling away benefit the product??? I really don't get why all of you are obsessed with Raw going back to 2 hours... I see what he means but I've liked Raw a lot more since it switched to 3 hours First Hour: Good opening segment and match Second Hour: mid card stuff and a promo at the end Third Hour: more promo, extra matches and a main event/ closing segment That's how Raw has been running for months now and I love it
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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 20, 2013 14:45:43 GMT -5
Awesome Raw!
Can't believe there is so many people annoyed about this. I love how the bad guys won tonight and at SS, it just adds fuel to the fire, what happens if Bryan won? everyone is happy and there is nothing pulling you in. Now for the first time in a while I wanted to watch next weeks Raw right now, and thats after 3 hours of wrestling that followed on from 3 hours of wrestling the previous day.
Ziggler is now in the feud too with the Maddox/Shield thing, Punk has his own feud with Paul Heyman, RVD is in the World Title picture, the WWE Title feels like it means something, Bryan is the marquee good guy for the company now and is being pushed on his own up against the company in the Main spot of the show every week featuring Vince/HHH/Stephanie who dont show up everyweek for anyone and Cena is taking half a year off... isn't this some kind of dream, it caters to pretty much every wrestling fans wants for the show.
I was slightly disappointed with how Bryan was in the last segment but I'd probably blame him more for that with the way he carried himself but the segment was a hard one to pull off. The main goal though was to make it look like Bryan has "no chance in hell" and they did that, sure Bryan looked a bit naive and should have gone to the ring slightly differently but that ending was awesome and for once an RKO really seemed out of nowhere.
Awesome SummerSlam, Awesome Raw, this is the wrestling I wanna watch every week.
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Post by T R W on Aug 20, 2013 14:50:43 GMT -5
I hadn't watched in a while but tuned into see if this was a new direction, and I found myself a lot more entertained by the possibilities than in a long time. First time I am looking forward to the next Raw.
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Post by Nash on Aug 20, 2013 21:09:56 GMT -5
The fact that anyone can say this is burying Bryan is hilarious.
You do realize he pinned Cena clean to win the WWE championship right? Just off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone who has ever done that (Orton maybe?).
That automatically makes him over no matter how much you think they're burying him. (even though they're not)
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Post by deskjet on Aug 21, 2013 15:16:39 GMT -5
Fantastic show
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Post by Escape The Rules on Aug 22, 2013 4:15:42 GMT -5
Triple H saying 'buried' over & over again had to be one for the know-it-all internet fans, brilliant.
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