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Post by "The Gothic Superstar" Ronin on Oct 6, 2013 12:32:45 GMT -5
Jim Ross will be a loyal WWE man til the end, I guarantee. The same for Heyman, he'll stick by Vince no doubt
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Post by Jack on Oct 6, 2013 13:37:52 GMT -5
Better give me a good show in January in Scotland.
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Post by Raine on Oct 6, 2013 14:37:49 GMT -5
Your probably right about Jim Ross WWE loyalty, even though Vince has never really liked him, as Ross isnt a yes man. He needs more people like Ross around him.
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Post by That 80s Guy on Oct 7, 2013 0:35:03 GMT -5
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We never thought we'd see Bret go to WCW...
We never thought we'd see Bischoff on RAW...
We never thought we'd see Hogan running TNA...
The moral of history in this business is: NEVER SAY NEVER
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 5:03:46 GMT -5
Everyone clamoring for the Jarretts to take back over seems almost comical. When TNA first started up and Jarrett was running it, everyone bitched and complained about how TNA was nothing more than the JJ show. The show revolved around JJ and he wasnt putting people over. How many guys like Raven and Jeff Hardy, were we expecting JJ to put over for the TNA Title and he never did. Its just a constant moan and groan. There are problems. It aint perfect. But what I see on my tv is better than what is on Monday nights. And WWE is a billion dollar corporation with money, talent and generations of experience to lean on and they still cant put an entertaining product on. Jeff Jarrett was the best thing TNA had going for a long, long time. If he came back today (as a member of the active roster) he would be one of the best things TNA has to offer. The IWC likes to bitch and complain about everything. They are the hipsters of the wrestling world. People Double J put over for the NWA Championship: AJ Styles (x2) Ray Gonzalez (Not Recognized) Rhyno Christian Cage Sting Also, Jarrett has never held the TNA Championship. As far as Jarrett regaining ownership of the company, I don't think it's likely. He currently owns over a quarter of the company while Panda Energy owns 73% or so. So far as I know, Dixie wants to continue running the company. She enjoys wrestling and likes the fact that she owns the second largest promotion in the United States. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 5:08:28 GMT -5
I'm getting tired of everyone saying TNA is closing down and all this bull crap. TNA is not closing down. I am also tired of all these smart ass WWE fans in the TNA board acting like they know everything but they probably haven't even watched the product in months/years. TNA is owned by Panda Energy which is a million dollar company! Also they just free'd up about 35k if Hogan really is gone. Thats not correct. Panda Energy is worth a little more than 2 billion dollars. To put that in prospective, Vince McMahon is actually worth 560 million dollars. TNA/Panda Energy could buy Vince McMahon 4x's if they were paying McMahon's current value. That purchase would include a controlling share of WWE. The Carter Family has more money than Vince McMahon or the WWE. I don't think they're going anywhere if they don't want to. |
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Post by JWC on Oct 7, 2013 12:33:13 GMT -5
I hope ted turner buys it. I can't think of anything else.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Oct 7, 2013 15:45:28 GMT -5
Everyone clamoring for the Jarretts to take back over seems almost comical. When TNA first started up and Jarrett was running it, everyone bitched and complained about how TNA was nothing more than the JJ show. The show revolved around JJ and he wasnt putting people over. How many guys like Raven and Jeff Hardy, were we expecting JJ to put over for the TNA Title and he never did. Its just a constant moan and groan. There are problems. It aint perfect. But what I see on my tv is better than what is on Monday nights. And WWE is a billion dollar corporation with money, talent and generations of experience to lean on and they still cant put an entertaining product on. Jeff Jarrett was the best thing TNA had going for a long, long time. If he came back today (as a member of the active roster) he would be one of the best things TNA has to offer. The IWC likes to bitch and complain about everything. They are the hipsters of the wrestling world. People Double J put over for the NWA Championship: AJ Styles (x2) Ray Gonzalez (Not Recognized) Rhyno Christian Cage Sting Also, Jarrett has never held the TNA Championship. As far as Jarrett regaining ownership of the company, I don't think it's likely. He currently owns over a quarter of the company while Panda Energy owns 73% or so. So far as I know, Dixie wants to continue running the company. She enjoys wrestling and likes the fact that she owns the second largest promotion in the United States. I agree, I was captivated by wanting AJ or Raven take the title from him back then. I actually hated seeing him on top... which shows how great a heel role he had. Now I appreciate what he's done, I look back fondly to the early years of TNA. He wasn't like HHH burying people when it suited, he actually helped put others over. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 18:02:47 GMT -5
I'm getting tired of everyone saying TNA is closing down and all this bull crap. TNA is not closing down. I am also tired of all these smart ass WWE fans in the TNA board acting like they know everything but they probably haven't even watched the product in months/years. TNA is owned by Panda Energy which is a million dollar company! Also they just free'd up about 35k if Hogan really is gone. Wait! Wtf? You think Hogan only makes 35K a year? I make more than 35K a year! You can't be serious. |
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Post by Epic Z on Oct 7, 2013 18:04:41 GMT -5
I'm getting tired of everyone saying TNA is closing down and all this bull crap. TNA is not closing down. I am also tired of all these smart ass WWE fans in the TNA board acting like they know everything but they probably haven't even watched the product in months/years. TNA is owned by Panda Energy which is a million dollar company! Also they just free'd up about 35k if Hogan really is gone. Wait! Wtf? You think Hogan only makes 35K a year? I make more than 35K a year! You can't be serious. I meant per appearance my bad. I heard somewhere he makes 35k per show. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 7, 2013 23:14:31 GMT -5
Everyone clamoring for the Jarretts to take back over seems almost comical. When TNA first started up and Jarrett was running it, everyone bitched and complained about how TNA was nothing more than the JJ show. The show revolved around JJ and he wasnt putting people over. How many guys like Raven and Jeff Hardy, were we expecting JJ to put over for the TNA Title and he never did. Its just a constant moan and groan. There are problems. It aint perfect. But what I see on my tv is better than what is on Monday nights. And WWE is a billion dollar corporation with money, talent and generations of experience to lean on and they still cant put an entertaining product on. What exactly do you watch on Monday nights? Cause if it's worse than TNA, it definitely isn't Raw. I'm not a WWE fanboy who says everything they're doing is great but TNA is just a mess on and off the air right now. Yes, there are good matches, I give the wrestlers credit for that, but the stories are a mess, and WWE has adequate wrestling as well with a whole lot more going on in the "entertainment" aspect right now as well. As far as your original point, I think people want the Jarretts to buy it back to spite Dixie more than anything else. And, if they did buy it back, I would hope it would be under the idea that Double J would not be wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2013 0:12:55 GMT -5
Wait! Wtf? You think Hogan only makes 35K a year? I make more than 35K a year! You can't be serious. I meant per appearance my bad. I heard somewhere he makes 35k per show. Ok. Lol. That makes more sense. Dynamite says in his book that he would get paid 20K per appearance for large events in the late 80's, so that's reasonable. I would rather see Shelton Benjamin or John Morrison on TNA for that cost. I'm sure that both would be willing to appear for the amount that they are paying Hogan. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 8, 2013 16:41:21 GMT -5
Everyone clamoring for the Jarretts to take back over seems almost comical. When TNA first started up and Jarrett was running it, everyone bitched and complained about how TNA was nothing more than the JJ show. The show revolved around JJ and he wasnt putting people over. How many guys like Raven and Jeff Hardy, were we expecting JJ to put over for the TNA Title and he never did. Its just a constant moan and groan. There are problems. It aint perfect. But what I see on my tv is better than what is on Monday nights. And WWE is a billion dollar corporation with money, talent and generations of experience to lean on and they still cant put an entertaining product on. What exactly do you watch on Monday nights? Cause if it's worse than TNA, it definitely isn't Raw. I'm not a WWE fanboy who says everything they're doing is great but TNA is just a mess on and off the air right now. Yes, there are good matches, I give the wrestlers credit for that, but the stories are a mess, and WWE has adequate wrestling as well with a whole lot more going on in the "entertainment" aspect right now as well. As far as your original point, I think people want the Jarretts to buy it back to spite Dixie more than anything else. And, if they did buy it back, I would hope it would be under the idea that Double J would not be wrestling. I watch that train wreck called Raw aka...."Put HHH Over". 20% of the show is devoted to advertisement for social media plugs. Only plus is they stopped with the annoying tout crap. 20% is devoted to recapping parts of the show already. 35% is putting HHH over. 10% of the show is backstage interviews, in ring promos, etc. And the last 15% is actual wrestling, which for the most part is absolutely horrid. Ziggler/Sandow is average at best. Burying Sandow is stupid and putting Ziggler in the meaningless feuds is worse. Divas Match? JoJo is 100% worthless. Why she didnt even get in the ring? Eva Marie, while hot, is awful in the ring and has no business in it. She needs to be in NXT, trying to improve...not taking up valuable air time looking foolish. Los Matadores has some enterainment value, but I think its Mantaur thats carrying a lot of it. Punk/Heyman feud is outstanding. Sadly, R Truth is extremely unnecessary. Kofi/Orton was boring. The end was interesting. But no need to bury Kofi. Good spot to put R Truth in. Kofi would fit better in the feud with Axel. Alberto/Ricardo was what it needed to be. Reintroduce Cena, which I thought was a terrible way to do it, shock Alberto and then have Alberto beat the crap out of Ricardo, removing him from tv since RVD is going home to take a nap for 3 months. Fandango is being wasted. Real Americans was nothing but a repeat of the PPV match to have Cesaro giant swing Khali. Awesome spot. Horrible booking since RA are supposed to be heels and you are booking them as faces with the crowd cheering them on. Miz/Wyatt family was very entertaining. Wyatts are another bright spot for WWE. I am sure they will mess it up though. Main Event was really good, minus the HHH involvement with the match. HHH getting knocked out didnt should have been done weeks ago. They dragged it out too far and thus it lost some steam. WWE should be putting more camera time to people who are over like DB, Shield, Wyatts, Fandango, Punk/Heyman and Ziggler. They should lose all this HHH crap, unless its to further the DB story....lose some of the fluff and shorten some of this filler stuff. Kofi/Orton just went too long. Divas match was too long. The Big Show opening segment was too long. The WWE App voting was too long. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Oct 8, 2013 21:48:32 GMT -5
What exactly do you watch on Monday nights? Cause if it's worse than TNA, it definitely isn't Raw. I'm not a WWE fanboy who says everything they're doing is great but TNA is just a mess on and off the air right now. Yes, there are good matches, I give the wrestlers credit for that, but the stories are a mess, and WWE has adequate wrestling as well with a whole lot more going on in the "entertainment" aspect right now as well. As far as your original point, I think people want the Jarretts to buy it back to spite Dixie more than anything else. And, if they did buy it back, I would hope it would be under the idea that Double J would not be wrestling. I watch that train wreck called Raw aka...."Put HHH Over". 20% of the show is devoted to advertisement for social media plugs. Only plus is they stopped with the annoying tout crap. 20% is devoted to recapping parts of the show already. 35% is putting HHH over. 10% of the show is backstage interviews, in ring promos, etc. And the last 15% is actual wrestling, which for the most part is absolutely horrid. Ziggler/Sandow is average at best. Burying Sandow is stupid and putting Ziggler in the meaningless feuds is worse. Divas Match? JoJo is 100% worthless. Why she didnt even get in the ring? Eva Marie, while hot, is awful in the ring and has no business in it. She needs to be in NXT, trying to improve...not taking up valuable air time looking foolish. Los Matadores has some enterainment value, but I think its Mantaur thats carrying a lot of it. Punk/Heyman feud is outstanding. Sadly, R Truth is extremely unnecessary. Kofi/Orton was boring. The end was interesting. But no need to bury Kofi. Good spot to put R Truth in. Kofi would fit better in the feud with Axel. Alberto/Ricardo was what it needed to be. Reintroduce Cena, which I thought was a terrible way to do it, shock Alberto and then have Alberto beat the crap out of Ricardo, removing him from tv since RVD is going home to take a nap for 3 months. Fandango is being wasted. Real Americans was nothing but a repeat of the PPV match to have Cesaro giant swing Khali. Awesome spot. Horrible booking since RA are supposed to be heels and you are booking them as faces with the crowd cheering them on. Miz/Wyatt family was very entertaining. Wyatts are another bright spot for WWE. I am sure they will mess it up though. Main Event was really good, minus the HHH involvement with the match. HHH getting knocked out didnt should have been done weeks ago. They dragged it out too far and thus it lost some steam. WWE should be putting more camera time to people who are over like DB, Shield, Wyatts, Fandango, Punk/Heyman and Ziggler. They should lose all this HHH crap, unless its to further the DB story....lose some of the fluff and shorten some of this filler stuff. Kofi/Orton just went too long. Divas match was too long. The Big Show opening segment was too long. The WWE App voting was too long. I feel like you're trying to argue with me but 90% of what you said echoed what I posted in the Raw thread immediately after the show so I'll just leave it that I still think you're watching TNA with rose-colored glasses. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 9, 2013 10:28:56 GMT -5
I watch that train wreck called Raw aka...."Put HHH Over". 20% of the show is devoted to advertisement for social media plugs. Only plus is they stopped with the annoying tout crap. 20% is devoted to recapping parts of the show already. 35% is putting HHH over. 10% of the show is backstage interviews, in ring promos, etc. And the last 15% is actual wrestling, which for the most part is absolutely horrid. Ziggler/Sandow is average at best. Burying Sandow is stupid and putting Ziggler in the meaningless feuds is worse. Divas Match? JoJo is 100% worthless. Why she didnt even get in the ring? Eva Marie, while hot, is awful in the ring and has no business in it. She needs to be in NXT, trying to improve...not taking up valuable air time looking foolish. Los Matadores has some enterainment value, but I think its Mantaur thats carrying a lot of it. Punk/Heyman feud is outstanding. Sadly, R Truth is extremely unnecessary. Kofi/Orton was boring. The end was interesting. But no need to bury Kofi. Good spot to put R Truth in. Kofi would fit better in the feud with Axel. Alberto/Ricardo was what it needed to be. Reintroduce Cena, which I thought was a terrible way to do it, shock Alberto and then have Alberto beat the crap out of Ricardo, removing him from tv since RVD is going home to take a nap for 3 months. Fandango is being wasted. Real Americans was nothing but a repeat of the PPV match to have Cesaro giant swing Khali. Awesome spot. Horrible booking since RA are supposed to be heels and you are booking them as faces with the crowd cheering them on. Miz/Wyatt family was very entertaining. Wyatts are another bright spot for WWE. I am sure they will mess it up though. Main Event was really good, minus the HHH involvement with the match. HHH getting knocked out didnt should have been done weeks ago. They dragged it out too far and thus it lost some steam. WWE should be putting more camera time to people who are over like DB, Shield, Wyatts, Fandango, Punk/Heyman and Ziggler. They should lose all this HHH crap, unless its to further the DB story....lose some of the fluff and shorten some of this filler stuff. Kofi/Orton just went too long. Divas match was too long. The Big Show opening segment was too long. The WWE App voting was too long. I feel like you're trying to argue with me but 90% of what you said echoed what I posted in the Raw thread immediately after the show so I'll just leave it that I still think you're watching TNA with rose-colored glasses. I'm watching TNA with eyes wide opened and have been openly critical about every aspect I dont like. Most recently has been the AJ/Bull feud and the Dixie heel turn. |
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