Arthur Speaks
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Dec 30, 2013 1:02:39 GMT -5
Team WWE winning was the right decision. However, Cena's plan wasn't the best plan. Here's how I would handle it:
Nexus is at a 4-on-2 disadvantage after getting off to a hot start. Cena, Edge, Jericho, and Daniel Bryan are outnumbering Barrett and Gabriel. There's some life as Barrett eliminates Jericho. He blames Cena for what happened. Then Barrett takes out Edge. Both Edge and Jericho assault Cena, and Edge gives Cena an Edgecution on the concrete. Bryan is able to fend for himself against Barrett and Gabriel, and is able to take out Gabriel with the LeBell Lock. As Bryan is about to eliminate Barrett, Miz hits Bryan in the head with the briefcase (twice) and nails him with the Skull-Crushing Finale on the briefcase. Barrett gets rid of Bryan. Now it's down to the two team captains.
Barrett gets the upper hand on a groggy Cena, but he is able to stay in it and hits an Attitude Adjustment. ONE! TWO! KICKOUT! Cena locks in the STF, but Barrett reaches the ropes. Cena attempts another Attitude Adjustment, but Barrett breaks free and hits Wasteland. ONE! TWO! KICKOUT! Barrett is noticeably tired and frustrated, trying to finish off Cena but he can't. Barrett makes a rookie mistake by going for his own Attitude Adjustment. Cena escapes, drop toehold, STF locked in. Barrett tries his hardest to fight through, but Cena is too much to overcome and Barrett taps out.
At least we could've said that Team WWE made The Nexus look like a million bucks.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Dec 30, 2013 2:12:43 GMT -5
Jesus. That's from the mouths of two people who would know best too. Cena is just like hogan. He has tons of creative control apparently. No wonder why he puts himself over so much. Creative influence. Vince's decision is always the final decision in this case while Hogan's decision is the final decision outside of the WWE. You aren't sure what happens back there nor do I. What we do know is that Hogan had it written in his contracts in TNA and WCW while we haven't heard of anything of the sort about Cena. Just because he is pushing for something doesn't mean the WWE is contractually obligated to listen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 5:07:05 GMT -5
he hasn't gotten better at putting people over. guy is just as bad as hogan ever was.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 5:49:14 GMT -5
What I read was a guy who admitted that he made a mistake, which was pretty big of him to do. Not many people would admit to that in his situation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 8:10:04 GMT -5
unfortunately this killed the Nexus stone dead.they NEEDED to go over here.....it was 100% nessacery.a faction/competitor can only gain the belief of the fans with sustained support in booking wins and looking convincing.
when Barrett and Gabriel couldn't put Cena away after the DDT on the concrete?they looked like sh*t....and this would not have hurt Cena at all.the subsequent booking of the group was also atrocious.
it was the wrong call but as AF says he admitted he was wrong.he should have used his pull to put WB over though.....
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 30, 2013 11:39:17 GMT -5
He may have admitted he was wrong in this instance, but he has done the same exact thing over and over, again and again.
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Post by xxr23 on Dec 30, 2013 11:47:12 GMT -5
gotta love how every one in cool with this yet if it was Randy Orton or Sheamus every last one of you would be calling for their head.
Also maybe every one will realize it's not the creative/writing teams fault that WWE can't create any new stars.
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Post by el torro on Dec 30, 2013 11:49:54 GMT -5
I love how people are all "well at least he admitted he was wrong". Yeah, he was wrong and it still pretty much cost Wade's career. If he knew he messed up and Jericho/Edge were right, why didn't Cena do all he can to try and build up Wade/Nexus again? He just had to beat Wade in their match at TLC, right?
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Post by June on Dec 30, 2013 11:53:55 GMT -5
I got some bad news for ya. You could have Wade beat every top face on the roster and it would still not change the fact that he is completely lacking charisma.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 12:07:18 GMT -5
Yeah he admitted he was wrong...that's fine but why didn't he listen to veterans like Edge and Jericho in the first place? What the hell was that about?
You'd think Cena would be smart enough to realize that hey...maybe these two guys might have a slight clue what they're talking about.
I could see if Cena maybe had a disagreement with one of them but when Jericho and Edge BOTH tell you something is f*cked up and yet you go out and do it anyway is just stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 12:10:32 GMT -5
like I say when he realised he was wrong he should've/could've used his clout to stop bulldozing through Nexus every week.
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Post by Butchers on Dec 30, 2013 19:45:44 GMT -5
Shows how self centred Cena is. He shouldn't need to be told that running through a 2 month old faction would be anything but a moronic idea. He got DDT'd on concrete! I don't think he could lose credibility after a move like that. Cena admitted on Total Divas he is selfish, so not really surprised about this story. This is why he is still the top guy, because he can't let others get over.
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Post by Word™ on Dec 30, 2013 20:47:02 GMT -5
I'm sorry I couldn't stop staring at that giant ass bouncing in your signature..
What were we talking about?
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jan 1, 2014 17:37:05 GMT -5
Not a ing clue why Cena thought that would be a good idea...
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 1, 2014 23:51:26 GMT -5
Reeling it in a bit? He didn't start till like mid 2011, My god it doesn't get much worse then his match with The Miz at OTL at 2011. That was abysmal. He was flat out destroyed by Miz and Riley for like 20 minutes and the last few minutes Cena just comes back and makes Miz quit. That may have been the worst in my opinion I don't see how he has " reeled back" whatsoever Just weeks back him vs Sandow was worse as if not worse than the fore mentioned ones. He buried Sandow completely. Kicked out of both of Sandows finishers. It was just discusting. And why? At this point why should Cena be put over ANYBODY? What more does he possibly have to gain?!?!? Let us not forget his 1/14/13 cage match against Dolph Ziggler. You know, the one where Ziggler hit Cena with every ounce of offense he had, Big E and AJ were both involved and Cena still hit the AA and mopped up the win like nothing of interest happened. Cena could have been the guy who really elevated Ziggler during that feud imo. The thing with Nexus and Barrett, they had their shot at Survivor Series 2010 to make up for Cena's mistake, and they didn't do it. Barrett could have been champion, Cena would have joined Nexus, and it would have been interesting as hell to actually watch Nexus abuse Cena until Cena battled back. Instead, Orton stayed champion, Cena was "fired" for less than 24 hours, and The Nexus was officially dead. If Cena truly knew he was wrong, why not go to bat for Barrett to win that match and become champion?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 2, 2014 0:01:23 GMT -5
Not a ing clue why Cena thought that would be a good idea... Good for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 0:11:24 GMT -5
Jesus. That's from the mouths of two people who would know best too. Cena is just like hogan. He has tons of creative control apparently. No wonder why he puts himself over so much. Creative influence. Vince's decision is always the final decision in this case while Hogan's decision is the final decision outside of the WWE. You aren't sure what happens back there nor do I. What we do know is that Hogan had it written in his contracts in TNA and WCW while we haven't heard of anything of the sort about Cena. Just because he is pushing for something doesn't mean the WWE is contractually obligated to listen. You hit the nail on the head. There are stories about a ton of wrestlers who play politics, not just Cena or Hogan. And let's not forget Edge's hand in the whole Matt Hardy mess. Both of these guys have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be pointing their fingers at anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 3:18:06 GMT -5
I don't see how he has " reeled back" whatsoever Just weeks back him vs Sandow was worse as if not worse than the fore mentioned ones. He buried Sandow completely. Kicked out of both of Sandows finishers. It was just discusting. And why? At this point why should Cena be put over ANYBODY? What more does he possibly have to gain?!?!? Let us not forget his 1/14/13 cage match against Dolph Ziggler. You know, the one where Ziggler hit Cena with every ounce of offense he had, Big E and AJ were both involved and Cena still hit the AA and mopped up the win like nothing of interest happened. Cena could have been the guy who really elevated Ziggler during that feud imo. I have said it before but that match was a booking atrocity.Ziggler would quite literally have had to produce a gun and shoot Cena to win this match. he kicked out of 2 finishers,interference etc etc etc......there was no need for him to go over here.I was flabbergasted watching this match.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Jan 2, 2014 8:55:33 GMT -5
Creative influence. Vince's decision is always the final decision in this case while Hogan's decision is the final decision outside of the WWE. You aren't sure what happens back there nor do I. What we do know is that Hogan had it written in his contracts in TNA and WCW while we haven't heard of anything of the sort about Cena. Just because he is pushing for something doesn't mean the WWE is contractually obligated to listen. You hit the nail on the head. There are stories about a ton of wrestlers who play politics, not just Cena or Hogan. And let's not forget Edge's hand in the whole Matt Hardy mess. Both of these guys have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be pointing their fingers at anyone. In fairness, they weren't pointing fingers in the context of the talk. They were just talking about planning matches and ideas and stuff, and how guys can disagree with each other. It was just the "I hate Cena he sux n never worked for ROH" kids that turned it into anti-Cena.
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