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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 21:55:59 GMT -5
Thing is all of those things display those people for what they were, killers. WWE promoting Benoit for his wrestling ability is showing him in a positive light. The shows and movies that show off Bundy and Hitler and such aren't doing that. There is a difference in flipping the channel and seeing a biography discussing Manson and his crimes and flipping to another and seeing Benoit win the World Title. Hitler's writings and books are still sold in book stores in their entirety with no censorship or changes. Its mentioned and shown in some history classes as well. Its making Hitler's work available to people. How is that any different from making Benoit's work available? We have a choice to acknowledge these or not. The WWE isn't going out of their way to promote Benoit in any way. They are simply showing their history that happens to include him in parts of it. No different than the History channel or A&E showing uncensored clips of Hitler, Stalin, or serial killers like Manson, Gacy, and Bundy with no censorship. Not trolling. Just how I see it. People can chose to watch Benoit or not. Both are cool. I just don't see why people need to bash one side for their choice. I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong, just that WWE don't want to show him in a positive light and it's understandable why. |
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jan 2, 2014 22:18:45 GMT -5
Hopefully they will be unedited,its going to be really nice to see some of my all time favorite matches again.
Chris Benoit .Vs Chris Jericho-IC Title-Ladder Match-Royal Rumble '01
Chris Benoit .Vs Kurt Angle-Steel Cage-RAW '01
Stone Cold Steve Austin and Triple H .Vs Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho-WWF Tag Team Titles-RAW '01
Stone Cold Steve Austin .Vs Chris Benoit-WWF Title-Smackdown '01
Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle .Vs Edge and Rey Mysterio-WWE Tag Team Titles-No Mercy '02
Kurt Angle .Vs Chris Benoit-WWE Title-Royal Rumble '03
Brock Lesnar .Vs Chris Benoit-WWE Title-Smackdown '03
Triple H .Vs Shawn Michaels .Vs Chris Benoit-World Title-Wrestlemania XX
Chris Benoit .Vs William Regal-No Mercy '06
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 2, 2014 22:29:02 GMT -5
I prefer to have him edited out of events... however, I don't mind if they keep him in the Royal Rumble matches and stuff like that. Just edit the commentary so he's acknowledged as little as possible.
I honestly can't even start DVDs that have him in singles or tag team matches. It creeps me out that some people try to convince themselves that it's okay to separate his wrestling career with the fact that he murdered his wife and son.
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Post by Word™ on Jan 2, 2014 22:34:42 GMT -5
Who?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jan 2, 2014 22:36:39 GMT -5
If true, it puts me off the idea of getting the network a little. I don't even know why they'd include his stuff, unless the market for the network is oddballs who think crisp German duplexes are more important than murder. I'll probably still get it and just skip past Psycho Robot Boy, but WWE will only have themselves to blame if they get a ton of negative press about this.
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 2, 2014 22:38:31 GMT -5
I'm not going to get involved in any arguments, but I'd like to say I think its good they are leaving him in there. You have to pay for this service, & if I'm paying my hard earned money, I want to see everything. Its this simple, watch it or don't watch it. We all have a choice.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 2, 2014 23:04:59 GMT -5
Hitler's writings and books are still sold in book stores in their entirety with no censorship or changes. Its mentioned and shown in some history classes as well. Its making Hitler's work available to people. How is that any different from making Benoit's work available? We have a choice to acknowledge these or not. The WWE isn't going out of their way to promote Benoit in any way. They are simply showing their history that happens to include him in parts of it. No different than the History channel or A&E showing uncensored clips of Hitler, Stalin, or serial killers like Manson, Gacy, and Bundy with no censorship. Not trolling. Just how I see it. People can chose to watch Benoit or not. Both are cool. I just don't see why people need to bash one side for their choice. You're missing the point though. All those specials, documentaries and classes on Hitler and the others are always shown in relation of what they did. They all show the complete story. Their legacy. There are no documentaries of Gacy's best of birthday parties for example. Showing Benoits matches strips away what he did. Showing his matches is to only show part of the package. Benoit is a murderer that was a wrestler, showing him wrestle is blissful ignorance to what he did. Yes he's a part of their history. And all his matches are available if you want to find them. Why should they glorify him just because you can separate him from what he did and want to watch his matches? Again as I said hitler and bundy's writings are available to the public in book stores and at universities. They are uncensored and don't show them in relation to what they did. Yes these are somewhat different scenarios but basically the same issue. It all boils down to choice. No choice is right or wrong either. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 2, 2014 23:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by marino13 on Jan 2, 2014 23:28:17 GMT -5
There was a time I would have taken a bullet to save Chris Benoit. And though I didn't know him or his family personally what happened still hurt me as if I did. I too have a son with speacial needs much like Daniel. So I choose to forget Chris to the best of my abilities. And I for one applaud WWE for trying to do the same all these years.
Yes he had great matches but I can live my life without ever needing to see them again.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 2, 2014 23:34:03 GMT -5
What would the advisory say? "Warning: the following program contains scenes featuring a real murderer"?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 3, 2014 0:02:45 GMT -5
I wonder what the advisory will say.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 3, 2014 0:06:31 GMT -5
I don't expect to see a ton of Benoit regardless, but I do support the decision and I'm glad WWE is at least giving people the option to turn the channel or not.
I've never had any trouble watching Benoit matches. The same way I've never had any trouble listening to the Sex Pistols or watching Naked Gun. I've yet to burst into flames, but I'll make sure to let everyone know if anything changes.
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Post by King Silva on Jan 3, 2014 0:15:15 GMT -5
I find it hard to watch his stuff so if I get the network and his stuff is on I'd probably just change the channel.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 3, 2014 0:17:30 GMT -5
Doesn't really matter. It's easier to not have to edit out every single mention of the guy, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 1:12:57 GMT -5
Someone should start a survey. Cordless is dead on. Do some of you still watch any of the WRestlemanias? Snuka ALSO killed a girl. No one gripes about him. I have no problem watching a Benoit match nor playing with his figure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 1:31:23 GMT -5
Vile. That's all I can say.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jan 3, 2014 2:21:41 GMT -5
I was just playing SVR 2007. I got 3 Months into GM Mode before even thinking about what happened. (I did have him on my roster, so I used him every week.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 2:27:49 GMT -5
I don't understand how people can't separate Chris Benoit the wrestler and Chris Benoit the person? What he did is wrong but his matches were excellent. Plus majority of you all were his fans but now you won't watch because of what happened. Yes he was a bad person but I'm still going to watch despite negativity because I appreciate his in ring performances.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 3, 2014 2:35:08 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm glad he's not gonna be edited out of the shows. It would be kinda weird seeing Summerslam 2004 or WrestleMania XX and have his matches taken off as if they didn't exist. Having an advisory attached to the shows he's on, doesn't bother me one bit.And hey if anyone doesn't wanna get this network because of him, your loss really because sooner or later there's gonna tons and tons of good stuff involved with this network. The ones I'm really looking forward to seeing is the old AWA/WCCW shows. Even the old Florida territory shows to see Kevin Sullivan. I say for people who just doesn't wanna see Chris Benoit anymore because of what he did, which I totally understand why you would not wanna watch his matches anymore, just skip through his matches and enjoy the rest of the shows. IMO it's kinda dumb to say Benoit is the reason not to buy the network considering Benoit's match would probably be just 5%, maybe even less than that of the whole network than the rest. Just skip through his matches/segments and move on.
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Post by Angel Beast on Jan 3, 2014 6:56:58 GMT -5
If true, it puts me off the idea of getting the network a little. I don't even know why they'd include his stuff, unless the market for the network is oddballs who think crisp German duplexes are more important than murder. I'll probably still get it and just skip past Psycho Robot Boy, but WWE will only have themselves to blame if they get a ton of negative press about this. They didn't receive negative press when they started mentioning and then showing him on WWE On Demand or in the WWE Encyclopidia. So how is showing him on the WWE Network without promoting him any different? |
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