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Post by poindizzle on Mar 29, 2014 9:37:29 GMT -5
I actually like that basic set. Those are finally guys that I like getting repaints of. Hope this set is out on an endcap before Easter, that'd be great!
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Post by CAT-ion Figures on Mar 29, 2014 10:13:57 GMT -5
Nice! Gotta get all those figures (except Orton) anyway! Build a figure is a nice little bonus!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 29, 2014 14:07:01 GMT -5
So essentially, you're crying because you don't even grasp the concept of a Best of PPV 2013 line. Personally, there's not a single figure in that set that I'd swap for another rerelease of the same basic Undertaker or Kane that we got a million times last year. And there was very little chance of CM Punk being in both the basic and elite BOPPV sets at the same time. Well I guess you fail to grasp that Paul Bearer wasn't at any Pay-per-view in 2013, which again questions the logic of his placement with those figures. So now you're crying that they managed to squeeze a Paul Bearer figure out at all. Brilliant. Love the weird conspiracy theories too.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 29, 2014 14:21:42 GMT -5
Wait…why did this get bumped?
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Post by RybackV1 on Mar 29, 2014 15:02:19 GMT -5
Wait…why did this get bumped? Probably because it was made 4 months ago and these figs still haven't hit stores.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 18:52:09 GMT -5
Well I guess you fail to grasp that Paul Bearer wasn't at any Pay-per-view in 2013, which again questions the logic of his placement with those figures. So now you're crying that they managed to squeeze a Paul Bearer figure out at all. Brilliant. Love the weird conspiracy theories too. No, it's not a conspiracy; it's vast stupidity. What's the old saying Bush bumbled, "Fool me once shame on you . . ." How many times has Mattel been fooled with legends? Three or four times? And you obviously didn't even read my first post that you responded to, or the subsequent posts. I do want Paul Bearer, just not with these figures. That's been my point all along.
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Post by poindizzle on Mar 29, 2014 19:01:38 GMT -5
So now you're crying that they managed to squeeze a Paul Bearer figure out at all. Brilliant. Love the weird conspiracy theories too. No, it's not a conspiracy; it's vast stupidity. What's the old saying Bush bumbled, "Fool me once shame on you . . ." How many times has Mattel been fooled with legends? Three or four times? And you obviously didn't even read my first post that you responded to, or the subsequent posts. I do want Paul Bearer, just not with these figures. That's been my point all along. And that's what Mattel knows. That's what Next Man's Sweater is getting at, I'm pretty sure. Profit is profit for a company whether it was gotten through ill gains or not. To compare, it's like those free credit report scam sites. They give you a free credit report and hide, in the small print that most people ignore, a disclaimer that you are set up for a monthly fee. So they have this revenue stream of people being duped into having a fee drafted from their account for that first month and there is nothing they can do about it. Profit is profit. Mattel makes this repaint set with pre-existing molds, charges you for the figure and for the price of the baf piece (most Baf pieces from other companies are considered a bonus and don't cost extra) and make money hand over fist. Profit is profit, again. You may not like it, I sure don't like it, but that's what it is. I'm sure this set will still sell just fine, regardless of interest in the repaints, because you honestly only have one viable option: Buy the set. Paying a scalper generally costs too much, and stealing is illegal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2014 19:44:32 GMT -5
No, it's not a conspiracy; it's vast stupidity. What's the old saying Bush bumbled, "Fool me once shame on you . . ." How many times has Mattel been fooled with legends? Three or four times? And you obviously didn't even read my first post that you responded to, or the subsequent posts. I do want Paul Bearer, just not with these figures. That's been my point all along. And that's what Mattel knows. That's what Next Man's Sweater is getting at, I'm pretty sure. Profit is profit for a company whether it was gotten through ill gains or not. To compare, it's like those free credit report scam sites. They give you a free credit report and hide, in the small print that most people ignore, a disclaimer that you are set up for a monthly fee. So they have this revenue stream of people being duped into having a fee drafted from their account for that first month and there is nothing they can do about it. Profit is profit. Mattel makes this repaint set with pre-existing molds, charges you for the figure and for the price of the baf piece (most Baf pieces from other companies are considered a bonus and don't cost extra) and make money hand over fist. Profit is profit, again. You may not like it, I sure don't like it, but that's what it is. I'm sure this set will still sell just fine, regardless of interest in the repaints, because you honestly only have one viable option: Buy the set. Paying a scalper generally costs too much, and stealing is illegal. I know Mattel is doing this for WHAT THEY THINK WILL BE profit, I alluded to this in the post he responded to. My point is Mattel has failed at the legends series, failed at legends two packs, failed at Entrance Greats, failed at Defining Moments, succeeded at flashbacks, and will fail at BAF because they're putting a bunch of basic modern figures that a lot of legends collectors don't want with a legends build-a-figure that a lot of kids don't care about it. It's a big risk, as I already said. Profit is profit, again and again. So how come Mattel didn't realize how to make profit with 4 out of 5 of the past incarnations of legends??? Did they consider profit then? And you think they know what they're doing now? Profit would come from providing a product that your customer base would buy. Not us on this forum, but the vast majority of collectors who rarely if ever venture to this board. We take a poll on here, but it will be far from scientific. Mattel has failed to make enough "profit" in 4/5 of legends. Here's attempt 6. Playing the odds, I'd say won't make enough profit on this either. Again, profit is profit, right?
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Post by poindizzle on Mar 29, 2014 21:42:51 GMT -5
And that's what Mattel knows. That's what Next Man's Sweater is getting at, I'm pretty sure. Profit is profit for a company whether it was gotten through ill gains or not. To compare, it's like those free credit report scam sites. They give you a free credit report and hide, in the small print that most people ignore, a disclaimer that you are set up for a monthly fee. So they have this revenue stream of people being duped into having a fee drafted from their account for that first month and there is nothing they can do about it. Profit is profit. Mattel makes this repaint set with pre-existing molds, charges you for the figure and for the price of the baf piece (most Baf pieces from other companies are considered a bonus and don't cost extra) and make money hand over fist. Profit is profit, again. You may not like it, I sure don't like it, but that's what it is. I'm sure this set will still sell just fine, regardless of interest in the repaints, because you honestly only have one viable option: Buy the set. Paying a scalper generally costs too much, and stealing is illegal. I know Mattel is doing this for WHAT THEY THINK WILL BE profit, I alluded to this in the post he responded to. My point is Mattel has failed at the legends series, failed at legends two packs, failed at Entrance Greats, failed at Defining Moments, succeeded at flashbacks, and will fail at BAF because they're putting a bunch of basic modern figures that a lot of legends collectors don't want with a legends build-a-figure that a lot of kids don't care about it. It's a big risk, as I already said. Profit is profit, again and again. So how come Mattel didn't realize how to make profit with 4 out of 5 of the past incarnations of legends??? Did they consider profit then? And you think they know what they're doing now? Profit would come from providing a product that your customer base would buy. Not us on this forum, but the vast majority of collectors who rarely if ever venture to this board. We take a poll on here, but it will be far from scientific. Mattel has failed to make enough "profit" in 4/5 of legends. Here's attempt 6. Playing the odds, I'd say won't make enough profit on this either. Again, profit is profit, right? I'm not saying Mattel has always made great decisions, and certainly the failure of the legends line seems like it stemmed from the flawed idea that if Jakks had already done it that they shouldn't because they could only make money from new and unreleased things like Ricky Steamboat. Of course Steamboat would have been a great inclusion in the line later after releasing a more solid line of recognizable wrestlers and attires. I guess they paid too much credence to all the threads where people said they would stop collecting when Jakks lost the line. Difference of opinion respected on sales, bit I'm going to have faith that the Paul Bearer baf does just fine. I think kids aren't the ones collecting the baf pieces, but three of the four figures are kid friendly enough, with snark favorite Damien Sandow being the other, and the baf is very anticipated. I'm not saying eBay won't be littered with unwanted loose figures from the set, but that has been every BOPPV set so far. I'm only basing this on the idea that if I had to take an educated guess, I'd say kids didn't care about Michael Cole, Teddy Long, John Laurainitis, Ricardo Rodriguez, and so forth. Those always seemed to be a collector aimed notion. Don't think it's gonna hurt to ne optimistic, bit even balanced with realism, I think it'll sell fairly well. Oh, and I'm not trying to fight with you, really. I think Next Man's Sweater, despite being gradient to some people, has an educated and logical mindset. He made some good points (as well as you, I might add), and I just wanted to concrete what he was saying in a little more positive manner. Edit: totally forgot to add the best point which is something that works in all our favor. Mattel's profit isn't going to be from us, its gonna be from ToysRus. What it does for them is irrelevant because they'll order tons of this, hit or not, to simply have the edge over other stores.
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Post by R.J. Wilson on Mar 29, 2014 22:07:21 GMT -5
Is that stuff in the back on cm punks package accessories or just package cause it's not on the others
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Post by poindizzle on Mar 29, 2014 22:27:00 GMT -5
Went back to page one to actually look ay the figures. Where in the blue hell did that Del Rio photo come from? That's not Del Rio...
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 29, 2014 22:27:46 GMT -5
does anyone have a case breakdown yet? I thought someone posted on another page that it was 2 of everyone or at least the boxes overseas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 1:00:15 GMT -5
I know Mattel is doing this for WHAT THEY THINK WILL BE profit, I alluded to this in the post he responded to. My point is Mattel has failed at the legends series, failed at legends two packs, failed at Entrance Greats, failed at Defining Moments, succeeded at flashbacks, and will fail at BAF because they're putting a bunch of basic modern figures that a lot of legends collectors don't want with a legends build-a-figure that a lot of kids don't care about it. It's a big risk, as I already said. Profit is profit, again and again. So how come Mattel didn't realize how to make profit with 4 out of 5 of the past incarnations of legends??? Did they consider profit then? And you think they know what they're doing now? Profit would come from providing a product that your customer base would buy. Not us on this forum, but the vast majority of collectors who rarely if ever venture to this board. We take a poll on here, but it will be far from scientific. Mattel has failed to make enough "profit" in 4/5 of legends. Here's attempt 6. Playing the odds, I'd say won't make enough profit on this either. Again, profit is profit, right? I'm not saying Mattel has always made great decisions, and certainly the failure of the legends line seems like it stemmed from the flawed idea that if Jakks had already done it that they shouldn't because they could only make money from new and unreleased things like Ricky Steamboat. Of course Steamboat would have been a great inclusion in the line later after releasing a more solid line of recognizable wrestlers and attires. I guess they paid too much credence to all the threads where people said they would stop collecting when Jakks lost the line. Difference of opinion respected on sales, bit I'm going to have faith that the Paul Bearer baf does just fine. I think kids aren't the ones collecting the baf pieces, but three of the four figures are kid friendly enough, with snark favorite Damien Sandow being the other, and the baf is very anticipated. I'm not saying eBay won't be littered with unwanted loose figures from the set, but that has been every BOPPV set so far. I 'm only basing this on the idea that if I had to take an educated guess, I'd say kids didn't care about Michael Cole, Teddy Long, John Laurainitis, Ricardo Rodriguez, and so forth. Those always seemed to be a collector aimed notion. Don't think it's gonna hurt to ne optimistic, bit even balanced with realism, I think it'll sell fairly well. Oh, and I'm not trying to fight with you, really. I think Next Man's Sweater, despite being gradient to some people, has an educated and logical mindset. He made some good points (as well as you, I might add), and I just wanted to concrete what he was saying in a little more positive manner. Edit: totally forgot to add the best point which is something that works in all our favor. Mattel's profit isn't going to be from us, its gonna be from ToysRus. What it does for them is irrelevant because they'll order tons of this, hit or not, to simply have the edge over other stores. I 100% agree with the first bolded section. But of course, it was Mattel who made that decision, just as it is Mattel who decided to put Bearer in a Best of PPV 2013 series. I hope you're right about it succeeding, but I don't think so. But kids see Cole, Long, Laurainitis, Rodriguez on TV, they don't see Bearer. Yeah they make it for Toys R Us. Why were the legends 2 packs cancelled after one series? Because TRU decided not to buy more. If this one fails, they may say the same thing. TRU has to be able to move them or they won't want them anymore either. That means these better sell well or that could be it.
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