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Post by Markw on Jan 18, 2014 17:34:16 GMT -5
I really doubt they would bury Sting. I don't think they care for Sting, they don't care for WCW superstars. Superstars like Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Scott Hall didn't become WWE Champion, why? Because Vince doesn't care for them to become the champion. All those years they were just hired to build up Triple H, mocking the top WCW superstars from attitude era. Sting realized that himself and said it in interviews, so yeah Sting could possibly be buried, especially if he feuds the Undertaker. No pun intended. Goldberg was given a World Heavyweight Championship run when the belt was being used on the flagship show. And to be honest I think not giving Steiner, Hall or Nash the belt was perfectly reasonable, taking so long to give it to Booker T and Rob Van Dam was a much bigger crime. Vince McMahon may have wanted to prove a point and sure he didn't make the most of the WCW wrestlers. But bringing Sting in to bury him would serve no purpose, it won't happen. I'm sure that if he came in (and I doubt he will) then he'll have a feud with The Undertaker that should be brilliant and would basically book itself, he'd lose to 'Taker at Mania and that would probably be it. He almost certainly wouldn't be made to look a fool, we'd get a match a lot of people have wanted to see for a long time and that would be that. I could understand not joining in 2001/2002/2003 because of concerns about the way he'd be used, but in 2014 when he's 54 years old? He'd be coming in for McMahon to make money from Undertaker/Sting, so Vince wouldn't want to make him look bad in the build up and losing to a man who has beaten practically everyone at Wrestlemania really wouldn't do much damage. Still, it probably won't happen.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Jan 18, 2014 18:06:59 GMT -5
I kinda just want a current Sting Mattel figure
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 18:14:16 GMT -5
I really doubt they would bury Sting. I don't think they care for Sting, they don't care for WCW superstars. Superstars like Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Scott Hall didn't become WWE Champion, why? Because Vince doesn't care for them to become the champion. All those years they were just hired to build up Triple H, mocking the top WCW superstars from attitude era. Sting realized that himself and said it in interviews, so yeah Sting could possibly be buried, especially if he feuds the Undertaker. No pun intended. You think as much as they jerk off Sting whenever they get a chance to do so they'd bring him in just to bury him? If they didn't care, you wouldn't see him profiled in every video package about the World Title and they wouldn't have talked to him the two or three times he nearly signed with them.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Jan 18, 2014 18:25:05 GMT -5
I'm undecided when it comes to Sting wrestling for Vince. As a wrestling fan, I always wanted Sting in the WWE. I want to see what he can do with Taker, Triple H, CM Punk, but the truth is, I don't know if he really has it in him at this point. Taker vs Sting is without a doubt one of the biggest dream matches in pro wrestling history. But at this point, I'd rather Sting go down in the history books as the greatest to never wrestle for Vince McMahon rather than having him be just another victim to the streak. I mean, of course the build up could be awseome, but it needs more time than just post-rumble to Mania. There is just no way Sting would win. And in my eyes, if Sting signs on to job to Taker at Mania, he'd be a sellout.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 18:28:18 GMT -5
LOL, I'm gonna assume you're an 8 year old... Then you have never made your way over to the custom accessories forum have ya? No, I was just never disloyal to Vince when all his stars went to WCW. I am a WWF loyalist. TNA
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 18, 2014 18:50:30 GMT -5
Then you have never made your way over to the custom accessories forum have ya? No, I was just never disloyal to Vince when all his stars went to WCW. I am a WWF loyalist. TNA I pretend TNA doesn't exist
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 19:00:25 GMT -5
TNA I pretend TNA doesn't exist I have never seen TNA. I live in Mexico and it is not down here. Not that I would tune in anyways. But on the Fall of WCW DVD I have there is a Sting match. I will watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 19:00:40 GMT -5
I kinda just want a current Sting Mattel figure Also a flashback Wolfpac Sting.
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Post by Brad on Jan 18, 2014 19:20:17 GMT -5
I really don't care if he comes or not to be honest.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Jan 18, 2014 20:20:27 GMT -5
I kinda just want a current Sting Mattel figure Also a flashback Wolfpac Sting. Yah that would be epic i always placed NWO sting in WCW versus NWO revenge for Nintendo 64
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2014 20:25:59 GMT -5
Anyone think this is a good idea?
Taker gets the win at WM Sting ask for one more shot at Summerslam Then taker wants one last shot SS
Sting takes the series 2-1
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 18, 2014 20:28:18 GMT -5
I pretend TNA doesn't exist I have never seen TNA. I live in Mexico and it is not down here. Not that I would tune in anyways. But on the Fall of WCW DVD I have there is a Sting match. I will watch it. I tried Watching TNA once and I couldn't get into it.
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Post by Rattlehead on Jan 18, 2014 21:50:03 GMT -5
I don't think they care for Sting, they don't care for WCW superstars. Superstars like Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Scott Hall didn't become WWE Champion, why? Because Vince doesn't care for them to become the champion. All those years they were just hired to build up Triple H, mocking the top WCW superstars from attitude era. Sting realized that himself and said it in interviews, so yeah Sting could possibly be buried, especially if he feuds the Undertaker. No pun intended. You think as much as they jerk off Sting whenever they get a chance to do so they'd bring him in just to bury him? If they didn't care, you wouldn't see him profiled in every video package about the World Title and they wouldn't have talked to him the two or three times he nearly signed with them. I'm not here stating this like it's facts, just my personal opinion , that Sting would be smart to stay away from the WWE ring, "nearly" signed? Probably a good reason why he hasn't. Like I said, Sting would be smart to stay from a WWE ring, don't care how much hype they give him, it doesn't prove to be a successful idea. Maybe he will prove me wrong someday but as for now, I say stay away Sting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 2:08:04 GMT -5
I really doubt they would bury Sting. I don't think they care for Sting, they don't care for WCW superstars. Superstars like Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Scott Hall didn't become WWE Champion, why? Because Vince doesn't care for them to become the champion. All those years they were just hired to build up Triple H, mocking the top WCW superstars from attitude era. Sting realized that himself and said it in interviews, so yeah Sting could possibly be buried, especially if he feuds the Undertaker. No pun intended. Nash and Goldberg were both champions in WWE.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jan 19, 2014 2:14:22 GMT -5
Scotty Steiner losing to HHH is not what destroyed him in the WWE. Vince buried him after that cause he was a WCW guy. Plain and simple. More than likely Vince gave Steiner the song & dance about how he was gonna start at the top and be one of his main eventers so he would sign the dotted line.
Have Steiner knew beforehand what was going to go down, I doubt he would've signed on.
And its not like his final WWE run "destroyed" him. His legacy is still in tact as one of the greatest tag team wrestlers in Pro Wrestling history and one of the brightest standouts (as a singles competitor) in WCW history.
You spend most of this post making my point. So what is your objection? My use of the word, "destroy"? Well, kind of. You did say "destroy". There's no objection, I respect your opinion. I was just making a point that how Steiner's final WWE run went down did not ruin or "destroy" his legacy. Plus, during that time period when Steiner came in Vince was still hell bent on burying WCW Stars. This is 2014, I don't think he's on that kick anymore. I really doubt they would bury Sting. I feel the same way. It would be silly to bring in one of the biggest stars in the history of the business and then bury him. Especially with Triple H in charge of creative now. He seems to respect the history of the business more than Vince or Stephanie does.
There is another thing. Again, this is 2014, and like you said Trips respects the history of the biz waaay more than Vince ever did, So there's also that. Even if Vince still wanted to bury WCW Stars I'm sure Hunter is more than capable to talk some sense into him. Burying Sting would not be best for business.
Too bad there wasn't a guy like Triple H in Vince's ear in 2001 when WWE bought out WCW. Things would've went down waaay differently, and for the better too!
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Post by Rattlehead on Jan 19, 2014 2:21:02 GMT -5
I don't think they care for Sting, they don't care for WCW superstars. Superstars like Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Goldberg, and Scott Hall didn't become WWE Champion, why? Because Vince doesn't care for them to become the champion. All those years they were just hired to build up Triple H, mocking the top WCW superstars from attitude era. Sting realized that himself and said it in interviews, so yeah Sting could possibly be buried, especially if he feuds the Undertaker. No pun intended. Nash and Goldberg were both champions in WWE. Nash didn't become WWE Champion after his WCW/NWO days. As for Goldberg I can't remember, do you know what Match it was he won the WWE title?
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Jan 19, 2014 2:33:11 GMT -5
Anyone think this is a good idea? Taker gets the win at WM Sting ask for one more shot at Summerslam Then taker wants one last shot SS Sting takes the series 2-1 I actually like that a lot. Taker keeps his streak and Sting goes over. This would be probably the only case where it doesn't feel like Sting is selling out, although maybe Sting's first win should come before their Mania match. But like I said, having him coming in just to lay down for Taker at Mania would not be fun to see. Especially if their Mania is in Chicago, NY, or Philly, I could already here the 'You sold out!' chants.
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Jan 19, 2014 2:40:15 GMT -5
You spend most of this post making my point. So what is your objection? My use of the word, "destroy"? Well, kind of. You did say "destroy". There's no objection, I respect your opinion. I was just making a point that how Steiner's final WWE run went down did not ruin or "destroy" his legacy. Plus, during that time period when Steiner came in Vince was still hell bent on burying WCW Stars. This is 2014, I don't think he's on that kick anymore. I feel the same way. It would be silly to bring in one of the biggest stars in the history of the business and then bury him. Especially with Triple H in charge of creative now. He seems to respect the history of the business more than Vince or Stephanie does.
There is another thing. Again, this is 2014, and like you said Trips respects the history of the biz waaay more than Vince ever did, So there's also that. Even if Vince still wanted to bury WCW Stars I'm sure Hunter is more than capable to talk some sense into him. Burying Sting would not be best for business.
Too bad there wasn't a guy like Triple H in Vince's ear in 2001 when WWE bought out WCW. Things would've went down waaay differently, and for the better too!
I agree with you on Hunter respecting the history more than Vince, and as much as I think Vince McMahon is an ass hole in real life, at least Vince gives us what we want if he knows he can turn a profit out on it. Triple H will just book himself against Sting and go over. It wouldn't have anything to do with WCW, it will have to do with HHH's ego over Sting's legacy. While having Triple H in Vinny Mac's ear is a good thing for backstage stuff, like HoF inductees and such, having him control the on screen product is NOT best for business.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 2:56:11 GMT -5
Nash and Goldberg were both champions in WWE. Nash didn't become WWE Champion after his WCW/NWO days. As for Goldberg I can't remember, do you know what Match it was he won the WWE title? He beat Triple H at Unforgiven 2003.
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Post by | NLS™ | on Jan 19, 2014 3:28:14 GMT -5
Well, kind of. You did say "destroy". There's no objection, I respect your opinion. I was just making a point that how Steiner's final WWE run went down did not ruin or "destroy" his legacy. Plus, during that time period when Steiner came in Vince was still hell bent on burying WCW Stars. This is 2014, I don't think he's on that kick anymore.
There is another thing. Again, this is 2014, and like you said Trips respects the history of the biz waaay more than Vince ever did, So there's also that. Even if Vince still wanted to bury WCW Stars I'm sure Hunter is more than capable to talk some sense into him. Burying Sting would not be best for business.
Too bad there wasn't a guy like Triple H in Vince's ear in 2001 when WWE bought out WCW. Things would've went down waaay differently, and for the better too!
I agree with you on Hunter respecting the history more than Vince, and as much as I think Vince McMahon is an ass hole in real life, at least Vince gives us what we want if he knows he can turn a profit out on it. Triple H will just book himself against Sting and go over. It wouldn't have anything to do with WCW, it will have to do with HHH's ego over Sting's legacy. While having Triple H in Vinny Mac's ear is a good thing for backstage stuff, like HoF inductees and such, having him control the on screen product is NOT best for business. Well, Triple H doesn't have the book, so more than likely that won't happen unless they have a series of bouts. However, He does have some influence on the book though, so I'm sure he'd suggest a Sting/Triple H feud. I'd love to see it (assuming Sting signs for more than a one-off deal) regardless who wins the series. But at the same time you gotta remember all final decisions STILL go thru Vince. So really, Trips doesn't have the power to freely stroke his ego. On another note: On the whole Trips is the lesser of two evils. But in a sense, it's still good to have Vince around to keep his ego in check. But in vice verse, it's also good to have Trips around as well to influence what's best for business when he's not directly involved in an angle. Which is also why, realistically I think the odds The Stinger FINALLY jumping ship is in the realm of possibility.
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