Chief
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Post by Chief on Feb 24, 2014 1:05:28 GMT -5
That's a nice notion yet tonight's match was a great match and all anyone is talking about is him not winning.
People want him to be champion and win. If he loses they will be sad and complain. It didn't matter at Mania.
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Post by slappy on Feb 24, 2014 1:10:14 GMT -5
Do you ever dislike something they do? Do you complain? Is that crying? You've never been upset with something they did? Or are you too cool to do something like that? It's a TV show where guys in underwear pretend to fight, I don't take it too seriously -- I enjoy it and I spend money on it, but I don't cry about it when a result goes a certain way. Edge is one of my favourites of all time, and plenty of my favourite Edge matches are matches that he lost. The only thing I ever really complain about is the lack of characters and stories, and the frequency of pointless filler rematches in the midcard that go on forever (but I can skip those as long as I'm not watching live). I don't get butthurt because ROH guys lose sometimes, or because my favourite "workrate" guy doesn't get a "push" that dirtsheet writers want him to get. I grew out of that phase years ago. Who is he allowed to lose it to that won't upset you? Oh there we go. "Indy fanboys" Jesus ing Christ. So what if people like indy wrestling? What's wrong with that? Why is that an insult? I bet a lot of fans in the crowd don't know what ROH is but still cheer Bryan and Punk and others. You definitely need to get over yourself thinking you are better because you don't take wrestling seriously or because you believe yourself to be above certain terms. So you don't like good wrestling? If you do then I don't understand your argument about "workrate" guys. Why are you saying we complain about guys not getting pushes that dirtsheet writers want them to get when most of us discount most dirtsheets? That makes zero sense. Who here is even saying something like that? "Meltzer wants Punk pushed so that means I do too." No one is saying that. You've pulled that out of nowhere. Do you watch sports? Do you get upset if your favorite team doesn't make the playoffs? Do you get invested in games and upset when your team loses? Or are you again too cool for that? I'm fine with him losing to almost anyone as long as they are built up right and aren't a part time guy or Batista.
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Post by Epic Z on Feb 24, 2014 1:10:24 GMT -5
Do you ever dislike something they do? Do you complain? Is that crying? You've never been upset with something they did? Or are you too cool to do something like that? It's a TV show where guys in underwear pretend to fight Do you even really like wrestling, or do you just like to give people who are atucal fan's a hard time? That's a legit question. Also if you hate these "smarks" and the "IWC" so much no one is forcing you to be around these "smarks" on the "IWC" I also hate to break it to you but you are apart of the "IWC" as well and you are a smark. Please stop acting like you are the coolest guy on the board and are above everyone and everybody else on here is as you said earlier in this thread "butthurt" and all dumb smarks just because we are mad that one of our favorites lost.
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Post by slappy on Feb 24, 2014 1:11:53 GMT -5
It's a TV show where guys in underwear pretend to fight Come on man, show some respect. He's too cool for all of this. See how cool he is by mocking those who like it. He likes it but it's ok as long as he mocks everyone else then he can still feel alright about watching guys in underwear pretend to fight.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 24, 2014 1:14:14 GMT -5
It's a TV show where guys in underwear pretend to fight Do you even really like wrestling, or do you just like to give people who are atucal fan's a hard time? That's a legit question. That's a dumb question. Of course I like wrestling. I love wrestling. But I enjoy it for what it is -- accepting that it's guys in their underwear pretending to fight doesn't mean that I don't like it. Many wrestlers themselves nowadays accept that that's what they do for a living.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 24, 2014 1:16:28 GMT -5
Why all the arguing guys? If its still about Daniel I think everyone has a perfectly good reason to be upset with everything thats gone on the past 6 or so months.
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Post by Epic Z on Feb 24, 2014 1:18:29 GMT -5
Do you even really like wrestling, or do you just like to give people who are atucal fan's a hard time? That's a legit question. That's a dumb question. Of course I like wrestling. I love wrestling. But I enjoy it for what it is -- accepting that it's guys in their underwear pretending to fight doesn't mean that I don't like it. Many wrestlers themselves nowadays accept that that's what they do for a living. I'm not going to get into this, I have so much to say but I am just going to leave this thread. Not worth wasting my time.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 24, 2014 1:25:17 GMT -5
Oh there we go. "Indy fanboys" Jesus ing Christ. So what if people like indy wrestling? What's wrong with that? Why is that an insult? Nothing is wrong with liking indie wrestling. Getting butthurt every time that a guy from the indies loses a match in WWE and doing the " this company never watching again" gimmick? That's where it gets mockable. Because ultimately, if the results make you that upset with everything, why keep spending so much money on the product? I think you've got a bit of a complex about people being cool. I've never really used that word in relation to wrestling fans -- none of us are cool. I don't watch sports anymore, no, but the comparison doesn't really work. Wrestling is predetermined. Crying that [name of wrestling company] sucks because [character A] didn't win a match is like crying that [title of soap opera] sucks because [character A] and [character B] didn't get married. So him losing a belt to Cena and Orton, all good with you?
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trukid
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Post by trukid on Feb 24, 2014 1:32:13 GMT -5
I think the whole thing is its not the fact that bryan lost that people are necessarily mad about its how he lost
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Post by trukid on Feb 24, 2014 1:33:25 GMT -5
It was another shifty finish now im curious bout orton batista for crowd reactions alone i wonder how they will build it up
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Post by slappy on Feb 24, 2014 1:34:28 GMT -5
Oh there we go. "Indy fanboys" Jesus ing Christ. So what if people like indy wrestling? What's wrong with that? Why is that an insult? Nothing is wrong with liking indie wrestling. Getting butthurt every time that a guy from the indies loses a match in WWE and doing the " this company never watching again" gimmick? That's where it gets mockable. Because ultimately, if the results make you that upset with everything, why keep spending so much money on the product? I think you've got a bit of a complex about people being cool. I've never really used that word in relation to wrestling fans -- none of us are cool. I don't watch sports anymore, no, but the comparison doesn't really work. Wrestling is predetermined. Crying that [name of wrestling company] sucks because [character A] didn't win a match is like crying that [title of soap opera] sucks because [character A] and [character B] didn't get married. So him losing a belt to Cena and Orton, all good with you? But we don't do that. We may be upset when a guy who happened to have wrestled on the indys gets ed over but it's not "any indy guy loses a match and everyone is ready to quit watching." Ziggler never wrestled on the indys and "we" still love him and get pissed when he's screwed over. Matt Hardy is currently working for ROH. I don't see a huge swell of support for him now because of it. It's not about being cool, it could be any word that shows you think you are above everyone. The soap opera comparison doesn't work. Those writers don't write the next show based on how everyone reacted to the last one. Those shows can do stuff that people don't like because it is scripted. Wrestling while "scripted" is still athletic and people are going to want to see their favorites elevated. Sure, they can book anything they want and to hell with what the fans want, but if the fans see a guy is working hard and delivering night after night and is constantly getting screwed they are going to get behind him and want him to succeed and to be at the top. Soap Opera writers don't have to worry about anything like that. If they built up a good story around Cena or Orton winning, fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 1:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by Duck Holliday on Feb 24, 2014 1:55:24 GMT -5
Oh there we go. "Indy fanboys" Jesus ing Christ. So what if people like indy wrestling? What's wrong with that? Why is that an insult? Nothing is wrong with liking indie wrestling. Getting butthurt every time that a guy from the indies loses a match in WWE and doing the " this company never watching again" gimmick? This indy thing is getting soo old. His being a former indie guy has nothing to do with why I like Daniel Bryan (and I suspect the droves of fans he has in every arena he visits feel similarly)--cause I never saw that stuff before I already liked his WWE work. And get real "every time a guy from the indies loses a match..." I don't hear anywhere near the support for Ambrose and nowhere near that for Rollins. That indie excuse is a lame scapegoat.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 24, 2014 1:57:28 GMT -5
Ziggler never wrestled on the indys and "we" still love him and get pissed when he's screwed over. Who is "we"? Nothing to do with being above anyone. I do sincerely apologise if I have offended you or made you think I'm above you, and I hope that isn't the case. That wasn't my intention. I just enjoy when people get butthurt over silly things at 11pm Eastern time every few Sundays. Fans of particular actors/romances etc want to see their favourites "elevated" (ie doing things on TV that they want to see) too. But if you don't like the comparison, then perhaps a more apt real sports comparison is like someone who believes in God boycotting church because God didn't "book" the result of a football game the way they wanted. God is ignoring their prayers, trolling them, whatever other terms people use about WWE when Daniel Bryan doesn't get to win everything all the time. It's not a perfect comparison, but it's about the closest to " this company they don't know what they're doing, never watching again" type responses when a wrestler loses. Wrestling is quite unique, in the sense of it being a fake sport. I think that people forget that wrestling is supposed to play with their emotions and upset them when their heroes lose. They think that because they know it's fake, they can never let themselves get "worked" -- that's why almost anything real that happens in wrestling is met with a bunch of "it's a work" responses, because people hate the idea of wrestling "working" them. And so when WWE writes shows to craft a story of Daniel Bryan and his fans getting screwed, people can't accept that they're being "worked" and instead aim their butthurt at WWE doing something wrong, when the intention all along was for Bryan fans to get butthurt and further the story of him vs the machine.
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Post by Jack on Feb 24, 2014 2:12:11 GMT -5
Holy crap, 6 man tag was incredible.
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Post by avanillamidget on Feb 24, 2014 2:22:56 GMT -5
I thought the entire PPV was pretty enjoyable. I thought Darren Young's inability to sell after taking all the bumps for Titus was the weakest point, which is to say... there weren't many weaknesses. The problem is the bigger picture, where it seems Batista and Randy Orton are our main event, and D-Bryan could be stuck with Kane.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 3:31:03 GMT -5
Ziggler never wrestled on the indys and "we" still love him and get pissed when he's screwed over. Who is "we"? Nothing to do with being above anyone. I do sincerely apologise if I have offended you or made you think I'm above you, and I hope that isn't the case. That wasn't my intention. I just enjoy when people get butthurt over silly things at 11pm Eastern time every few Sundays. Fans of particular actors/romances etc want to see their favourites "elevated" (ie doing things on TV that they want to see) too. But if you don't like the comparison, then perhaps a more apt real sports comparison is like someone who believes in God boycotting church because God didn't "book" the result of a football game the way they wanted. God is ignoring their prayers, trolling them, whatever other terms people use about WWE when Daniel Bryan doesn't get to win everything all the time. It's not a perfect comparison, but it's about the closest to " this company they don't know what they're doing, never watching again" type responses when a wrestler loses. Wrestling is quite unique, in the sense of it being a fake sport. I think that people forget that wrestling is supposed to play with their emotions and upset them when their heroes lose. They think that because they know it's fake, they can never let themselves get "worked" -- that's why almost anything real that happens in wrestling is met with a bunch of "it's a work" responses, because people hate the idea of wrestling "working" them. And so when WWE writes shows to craft a story of Daniel Bryan and his fans getting screwed, people can't accept that they're being "worked" and instead aim their butthurt at WWE doing something wrong, when the intention all along was for Bryan fans to get butthurt and further the story of him vs the machine. WE THE PEOPLE! The ones who chant we want Ziggler, we want Lesnar, BOOTISTA, BORTON, & also Yes Chant! And the CM Punk chant that gets hushed by security an wwe personal
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Post by Escape The Rules on Feb 24, 2014 4:17:07 GMT -5
Called the chamber match from the get go. You guys talk about things being predictable, the only thing more predictable is your constant ing whining. WWE have you wrapped around their finger like puppets and it's damn hilarious to watch. Do you really think they're dumb enough to have Orton/Batista after the reactions Dave's been getting!? The match would get EATEN ALIVE at WM. Shut your ing mouths, sit back and maybe just TRY to enjoy yourselves, you'll get your ing pay off on the biggest stage of them all, have a little bit of patience. Rant over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 7:53:34 GMT -5
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Post by jnavo217 on Feb 24, 2014 8:27:52 GMT -5
So then what do you suggest they do? Do what the WWE wants and cheer Batista, boo Orton and don't complain about a thing they do? Again my post was aimed at the whiny complainy people that act like pouty children that don't get their way. There's more constructive ways to discuss things then Some of the irrational world ending, Daniel Bryan is the new Stone Cold talk that goes on round here. Daniel Bryan is the new stone cold
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