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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 30, 2018 16:55:33 GMT -5
Congrats to Blaney for getting the win and yes the roval is so much better than the oval.
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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 30, 2018 16:59:24 GMT -5
Boy is Truex a big ing crybaby. Boo hoo, Jimmie was going for the win just as much as you were, Martin.
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Post by SodaGuy on Sept 30, 2018 17:04:50 GMT -5
It absolutely sucks NASCAR is going to keep trying to destroy itself by appeasing people who believe "crashing" makes better racing. That really seems to be the criteria for people these days. It's why we're getting "pack racing" in 2019 and some are are already asking for more roval races. Who cares about good racing when you can just tear up a bunch of s*** in packs and poorly designed road courses?
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jeffro2000
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Post by jeffro2000 on Sept 30, 2018 17:20:41 GMT -5
I only watched a handful of laps, but I didn't care for that. It was just strange to me and especially my eyes.
It was probably still better than what it wouldve been though, and I probably wouldn't have watched any of it.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Sept 30, 2018 19:29:28 GMT -5
Johnson deserves that elimination. You can't tell me that Jimmie doesn't know that he's 8 points to the good in 2nd place. Hell, Almirola knew every 10 seconds how many points he needed. That's called good communication between spotter and driver, and crew chief and driver. He didn't have the car to win, he obviously tried to divebomb in 16, and took out the leader in a clearly failed attempt to win when he was fine in 2nd. MTJ has EVERY right to be mad. Great car that, being right place right time, had the win in hand. And it was stolen again.
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Post by blissfan4life on Sept 30, 2018 20:18:44 GMT -5
Johnson deserves that elimination. You can't tell me that Jimmie doesn't know that he's 8 points to the good in 2nd place. Hell, Almirola knew every 10 seconds how many points he needed. That's called good communication between spotter and driver, and crew chief and driver. He didn't have the car to win, he obviously tried to divebomb in 16, and took out the leader in a clearly failed attempt to win when he was fine in 2nd. MTJ has EVERY right to be mad. Great car that, being right place right time, had the win in hand. And it was stolen again. 2nd doesn't win championships. Truex knows that. When he watches the replay and looks back he'll be less angry.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 30, 2018 20:25:57 GMT -5
Johnson deserves that elimination. You can't tell me that Jimmie doesn't know that he's 8 points to the good in 2nd place. Hell, Almirola knew every 10 seconds how many points he needed. That's called good communication between spotter and driver, and crew chief and driver. He didn't have the car to win, he obviously tried to divebomb in 16, and took out the leader in a clearly failed attempt to win when he was fine in 2nd. MTJ has EVERY right to be mad. Great car that, being right place right time, had the win in hand. And it was stolen again. He knows where he is but he doesnt know where others are. What happens if he stays 2nd and others wreck where Larson & Almirola pass enough to finish ahead of him with points. The only situation where he's guaranteed to advance is him winning.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Oct 1, 2018 5:46:32 GMT -5
Johnson deserves that elimination. You can't tell me that Jimmie doesn't know that he's 8 points to the good in 2nd place. Hell, Almirola knew every 10 seconds how many points he needed. That's called good communication between spotter and driver, and crew chief and driver. He didn't have the car to win, he obviously tried to divebomb in 16, and took out the leader in a clearly failed attempt to win when he was fine in 2nd. MTJ has EVERY right to be mad. Great car that, being right place right time, had the win in hand. And it was stolen again. He knows where he is but he doesnt know where others are. What happens if he stays 2nd and others wreck where Larson & Almirola pass enough to finish ahead of him with points. The only situation where he's guaranteed to advance is him winning. That was the last lap. The next flag ended the race and the field froze where it was. He was 8 points to the good. No justification to overdriving 2 corners and wrecking the leader.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 1, 2018 7:57:06 GMT -5
He knows where he is but he doesnt know where others are. What happens if he stays 2nd and others wreck where Larson & Almirola pass enough to finish ahead of him with points. The only situation where he's guaranteed to advance is him winning. That was the last lap. The next flag ended the race and the field froze where it was. He was 8 points to the good. No justification to overdriving 2 corners and wrecking the leader. There was a car literally stopped in the middle of the track with no caution that Larson had to pass for a point. Nothing was guaranteed until that line was crossed.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 1, 2018 8:48:01 GMT -5
That was the last lap. The next flag ended the race and the field froze where it was. He was 8 points to the good. No justification to overdriving 2 corners and wrecking the leader. There was a car literally stopped in the middle of the track with no caution that Larson had to pass for a point. Nothing was guaranteed until that line was crossed. One car is a whole lot different than the eight cars a barely-limping 42 had to pass. Anyway, you could never convince me that if Jimmie hadn't had divebombed the chicane like some iRacing n00b, Truex wouldn't have "accidentally" missed it himself and hand the victory to the 48, or at least created a drag race to the line.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Oct 1, 2018 9:48:14 GMT -5
That was the last lap. The next flag ended the race and the field froze where it was. He was 8 points to the good. No justification to overdriving 2 corners and wrecking the leader. There was a car literally stopped in the middle of the track with no caution that Larson had to pass for a point. Nothing was guaranteed until that line was crossed. 2nd place would have locked him in, especially if he crossed the start/finish line. The one car that Larson passed would not have taken Jimmie out when - had he finished 2nd - he was 8 points up. We'll just agree to disagree on what Johnson did. He would have been in if he had been happy with 2nd, but no. He's greedy, and he took himself out of the playoffs and stole the win from MTJ. It's over. I'm moving on. Looking forward to Dover, and hopefully MTJ's winless streak ends there and he locks into the round of 8.
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 2, 2018 12:14:39 GMT -5
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Adding downforce back to the cars and removing HP (down to 550!) is literally the opposite of what they should've done. It's been fun y'all.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Oct 2, 2018 15:14:43 GMT -5
An 8" spoiler? That's gonna be huge off the back of the cars.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 3, 2018 20:50:55 GMT -5
Reading about the rules changes and the only thing Im not a fan of is the huge growth with the spoiler & splitter. Its just going to look weird to me. Like when they put those god awful wings on the cars. However if NASCAR's plan goes off like they expect it to, they're going back to the old school mentality of stock car racing where cars are "equal" and the best DRIVER is going to succeed. Im completely ok with that.
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Post by SodaGuy on Oct 3, 2018 21:44:22 GMT -5
2016: NASCAR took away downforce to "create better racing":
2018: NASCAR added downforce to "create better racing":
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Oct 4, 2018 13:26:25 GMT -5
*Ryan Preece to drive the 47 for JTG Daugherty in 2019. *Chris Buescher will be back in the 37. *Daniel Hemric, as previously announced, will drive the 31 in 2019. *Gander Outdoors to sponsor the Dover race this weekend. Officially called the Gander Outdoors 400; 39 teams entered, so barring a last minute addition of at least 2 teams, all drivers that attempt to qualify will make the field. *Kasey Kahne still not cleared, and will not be back in the 95. Regan Smith again will drive the car. *Ryan Newman will drive a Waste Masters/22 In 22 scheme, highlighting the challenges of and raising awareness to the veteran suicide crisis.
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Post by blissfan4life on Oct 6, 2018 16:16:21 GMT -5
Always amuses me when people say they loved the way Dale Sr raced but then turn around and criticize other drivers for racing the same way lol.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 6, 2018 16:52:14 GMT -5
Always amuses me when people say they loved the way Dale Sr raced but then turn around and criticize other drivers for racing the same way lol. Assuming you are talking about the Chastain-Tifft thing, it looked to me like the 2 backed up into the 4 anyway. Ross drove it into the corner aggressive yeah, but his car stuck while Matt drifted up the groove and was trying to get past the 60 himself. Unless Ross Chastain is so good at driving like an a** he makes the other drivers look like the bad guys lol
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Oct 7, 2018 13:21:41 GMT -5
Sounds similar to the 2012 Homestead race where Jimmie suffered a "mechanical failure" right after his pit crew messed up his chances of getting the Cup over Brad K. Park him instead of him enduring the embarrassment of not racing for a title...
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 7, 2018 15:37:39 GMT -5
Im just here early waiting for the bitching & whining.
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