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Post by LA Times on Apr 15, 2014 14:33:58 GMT -5
That contract from 1997 is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention it was in December which is AFTER Vince let Bret Hart go because he "couldn't afford him". I never knew there were any contract negotiations after Warrior became unreliable for the last time back in 1996. Also, who the hell was Warrior losing to so much in 1991?Undertaker in goofy stipulation matches and Savage by countouts and the like. I think Ultimate Warrior has only been pinned by 4 guys-Rick Rude, Sgt Slaughter, Randy Savage maybe and Hulk Hogan in WCW |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 15:37:30 GMT -5
Wow I'm shocked he's had 84 matches with Taker Glad I'm not the only one. I officially need to see some of these. I saw one of those matches and it was a body bag match that Warrior won. It was what you would expect. A lot of clotheslines and bodysalms and rest holds. If I remember correctly, Warrior did the press slam into the splash and rolled Taker into the bag. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 15, 2014 15:58:59 GMT -5
Glad I'm not the only one. I officially need to see some of these. I saw one of those matches and it was a body bag match that Warrior won. It was what you would expect. A lot of clotheslines and bodysalms and rest holds. If I remember correctly, Warrior did the press slam into the splash and rolled Taker into the bag. I've seen this match. Undertaker was pretty poor in the ring during this time, probably mainly due to him being in "zombie mode" all the time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 16:59:00 GMT -5
I heard his ex wife was trying to release a book, many years ago, I wonder what happened to that? I'm sure it would have been alot of bogus stories, but still would have been interesting to read Speaking of books, Warrior said he was in the middle of writing a book in his "Karma is coming to collect" video he did a while ago. I wonder if he got anywhere close to completing it? Here's what it would've been in a nutshell: "I'm great. Hogan sucks. Gays are immoral. Liberals are terrible people. Everyone owes me." |
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Post by k5 on Apr 15, 2014 17:54:06 GMT -5
very interesting stuff. i wonder how warrior would have fit into the attitude era - i could see him feuding with the hart foundation.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Apr 15, 2014 17:59:45 GMT -5
I always wondered why he had so many PPV matches with rick rude, I guess vince liked their chemistry...what was there..Royal rumble posedown, 2 summerslams, wrestlemania, and of course the SNME, was nice to see the fued last so long and have a good story......i like rude, so it was nice to see him win at Wrestlemania, even though it was cheating, and he beat warrior, it just made sense
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 18:04:02 GMT -5
I always wondered why he had so many PPV matches with rick rude, I guess vince liked their chemistry...what was there..Royal rumble posedown, 2 summerslams, wrestlemania, and of course the SNME, was nice to see the fued last so long and have a good story......i like rude, so it was nice to see him win at Wrestlemania, even though it was cheating, and he beat warrior, it just made sense With the exception of Wrestlemania VI (which really was hardly a match) Rude was always his best opponent. Rude could bring out the best in Warrior. The only reason 'Mania vs. Hogan was better is because of just how huge it was. It was one of those matches that was bigger than wrestling, where it could've been the sloppiest match ever, just watching those two lock up was enough. |
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Apr 15, 2014 18:06:29 GMT -5
I always wondered why he had so many PPV matches with rick rude, I guess vince liked their chemistry...what was there..Royal rumble posedown, 2 summerslams, wrestlemania, and of course the SNME, was nice to see the fued last so long and have a good story......i like rude, so it was nice to see him win at Wrestlemania, even though it was cheating, and he beat warrior, it just made sense With the exception of Wrestlemania VI (which really was hardly a match) Rude was always his best opponent. Rude could bring out the best in Warrior. The only reason 'Mania vs. Hogan was better is because of just how huge it was. It was one of those matches that was bigger than wrestling, where it could've been the sloppiest match ever, just watching those two lock up was enough. yes, Rude was definately a good opponent for him, but same can be said for Macho Man, they clicked as well |
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Post by Duck Holliday on Apr 15, 2014 18:40:05 GMT -5
I think his wrestlemania 7 match against Macho Man was his best match, but Macho carried the whole thing.
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Post by PVA on Apr 15, 2014 18:42:28 GMT -5
That contract from 1997 is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention it was in December which is AFTER Vince let Bret Hart go because he "couldn't afford him". I never knew there were any contract negotiations after Warrior became unreliable for the last time back in 1996. Also, who the hell was Warrior losing to so much in 1991? I thought warrior in 1991 was one of his better years, as his character showed more vulnerability (losing title, locked in casket, bitten by snakes, etc) he lost a lot of matches to savage without pinned or submitted . Either cage match or count out . Mostly count outs or dqs with undertaker. Warrior being unreliable is more of a "self destruction " myth. Not say he wasn't difficult to work with, demands, etc. but I think it's unfair to call him reliable when we don't know all the details. |
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Post by PVA on Apr 15, 2014 18:47:20 GMT -5
I think his wrestlemania 7 match against Macho Man was his best match, but Macho carried the whole thing. I agree the wm. 7 match was his best . While savage was great, saying he was responsible for all that was good is sounding like you hate warrior. Savage and warrior had a good relationship and meshed well in the ring and spent time out of it going back n forth with ideas for that match. Negotiating how many elbow drops vs number of flying shoulders, etc |
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Post by HuskerTornado on Apr 15, 2014 18:54:04 GMT -5
very interesting stuff. i wonder how warrior would have fit into the attitude era - i could see him feuding with the hart foundation. I think people forget how much his character had changed, had more of a dark act and dark humor to it in 96. Lots of interesting feuds could have taken place. His 98 run ended with a really hot Nitro crowd after the terrible Havoc match (that Hogan didn't want to work on leading up to Havoc, which is why their timing was so off together), but Bischoff and Hogan got their "W" and paid him to stay home. Warrior tells a funny story about how bad WCW's office was back then, they sent him plane tickets to the next couple shows after his last tv appearance and when he got there, Bischoff couldn't believe he was there. I heard his ex wife was trying to release a book, many years ago, I wonder what happened to that? I'm sure it would have been alot of bogus stories, but still would have been interesting to read Speaking of books, Warrior said he was in the middle of writing a book in his "Karma is coming to collect" video he did a while ago. I wonder if he got anywhere close to completing it? Warrior kept journals throughout his entire career, which is pretty amazing. A shame his book never got completed, because I'm sure there are all sorts of good stuff in those journals. |
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Post by HuskerTornado on Apr 15, 2014 18:56:00 GMT -5
I think his wrestlemania 7 match against Macho Man was his best match, but Macho carried the whole thing. I agree the wm. 7 match was his best . While savage was great, saying he was responsible for all that was good is sounding like you hate warrior. Savage and warrior had a good relationship and meshed well in the ring and spent time out of it going back n forth with ideas for that match. Negotiating how many elbow drops vs number of flying shoulders, etc That's the regurgitation of the Ted Dibiase Self Destruction scripted interview of "leading by the nose", etc. Warrior talking about working with Savage is good stuff. From their promo tapings to working on their matches, those guys' personalities were a great fit and their characters were made for each other. |
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Post by dod0411 on Apr 15, 2014 19:14:37 GMT -5
I agree macho and warrior complemented each other well.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Apr 15, 2014 23:25:32 GMT -5
I think his wrestlemania 7 match against Macho Man was his best match, but Macho carried the whole thing. I agree the wm. 7 match was his best . While savage was great, saying he was responsible for all that was good is sounding like you hate warrior. Savage and warrior had a good relationship and meshed well in the ring and spent time out of it going back n forth with ideas for that match. Negotiating how many elbow drops vs number of flying shoulders, etc I think Savage and Warrior were in two different leagues. I think Warrior was fine for his era, but Randy's body of work and quality of work far exceeds Warriors. I may have been hyperbolic in saying Macho carried the whole thing, Warrior did his job. My understanding was that Savage choreographed most the match. No I'm not a Warrior fan--the man or the performer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 7:00:47 GMT -5
Speaking of books, Warrior said he was in the middle of writing a book in his "Karma is coming to collect" video he did a while ago. I wonder if he got anywhere close to completing it? Here's what it would've been in a nutshell: "I'm great. Hogan sucks. Gays are immoral. Liberals are terrible people. Everyone owes me." That is pretty much my feelings as well... |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 16, 2014 16:32:10 GMT -5
That contract from 1997 is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention it was in December which is AFTER Vince let Bret Hart go because he "couldn't afford him". I never knew there were any contract negotiations after Warrior became unreliable for the last time back in 1996. Also, who the hell was Warrior losing to so much in 1991?I just looked it up, and he was losing to Slaughter and Savage constantly after Royal Rumble 91 leading into Wrestlemania VII. I guess Warrior was just paying his dues from being Champion for so long, he was putting Slaughter over cause he was the Champion, and Savage to make their feud mean something come Wrestlemania VII. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 18:50:03 GMT -5
That contract from 1997 is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention it was in December which is AFTER Vince let Bret Hart go because he "couldn't afford him". I never knew there were any contract negotiations after Warrior became unreliable for the last time back in 1996. Also, who the hell was Warrior losing to so much in 1991?I just looked it up, and he was losing to Slaughter and Savage constantly after Royal Rumble 91 leading into Wrestlemania VII. I guess Warrior was just paying his dues from being Champion for so long, he was putting Slaughter over cause he was the Champion, and Savage to make their feud mean something come Wrestlemania VII. Interesting... |
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Apr 16, 2014 19:05:49 GMT -5
I just looked it up, and he was losing to Slaughter and Savage constantly after Royal Rumble 91 leading into Wrestlemania VII. I guess Warrior was just paying his dues from being Champion for so long, he was putting Slaughter over cause he was the Champion, and Savage to make their feud mean something come Wrestlemania VII. Interesting... Yeah man, the losses to Savage were in a cage match. Actually, one of those matches is on the Warrior DVD/Blu Ray that just came out. Savage beat him in the cage match a few days after Royal Rumble 91. |
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Apr 16, 2014 19:59:28 GMT -5
Does anyone know where I can find the Match with warrior vs Savage from SNME after macho King Attacked Warrior in his match against dibiase...It was a dark match, i think it lasted a couple minutes...anything?
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