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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 4:49:33 GMT -5
Was it said which characters will be in the Suicide Squad?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 9:53:02 GMT -5
Ol Jokers musings on these announcements...
Why isn't Shazam part of the DC cinematic Universe started in MOS? I genuinely don't get this one.
I still despise the casting of Gadot as WW but I'm still hoping she comes through......Ezra Miller is a horrible choice for Flash too. Having Flash on TV & Movies is still a weird move to me.
I know nothing of Ray Fisher to judge him.....I reckon a Cyborg movie could be a big risk.....unless he has a HUGE part in Justice league.
Affleck, Momoa, Irons & Cavill are all still great casting for their respective roles.
Why so long for Solo Bat, Supes and GL movies?
Will Suicide Squad be part of the DCCU?
I still think their desperation to be different from Marvel will be box office folly in the end.
I desperately want this to work out......DESPERATELY. But I am so doubtful.
The end.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 16, 2014 21:04:58 GMT -5
I'm choosing to stay optimistic about this upcoming slate of movies and DC as a movie brand in general... mostly because I'm such a fan of the Affleck casting and (hopefully) future directing. Oh and the Momoa casting... there's a pretty good chance that there are going to be Aquaman bandwagoners coming out of the woodwork en masse five years from now. (Seriously... New 52 Aquaman might be the coolest current DC character.)
Consciously choosing not to make the "universes" connected is a little puzzling, but to be honest, it does clear one gaping plothole in the MCU... namely, how come none of the other Avengers helped Iron Man when the "Mandarin" attacked him? and similar questions.
Pairing Batman with any of the other characters is borderline absurdity if it isn't executed properly, but if they figure out how to make it work as well on the screen as it does in the comics, and they surround it with competency at even the most rudimentary storytelling levels... watch out. These movies are going to be fantastic. But I hope their decision not to combine the movies into one universe is a creative one and not one motivated by a stubbornness not to duplicate Marvel's winning formula or to create their own formula solely so they can say they did it successfully.
All of that said, if BvS comes out and totally sucks, that might just be opening the floodgates for a long series of bad movies. Snyder's recent track record suggests that this might be possible but I'm totally banking on the creative influence of Affleck to make this entire thing work.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 16, 2014 21:11:31 GMT -5
Oh and on a related note, up until they announced that Ezra Miller was also playing the Barry Allen version of The Flash (to me, almost singularly because of how much fun they could have with casting Wally West) with the TV series running at the same time, I was totally convinced that a new Green Lantern movie would have either Kyle Rayner or John Stewart... but now I'm pretty sure that they're going to reboot with Hal Jordan again, terrible Ryan Reynolds movie notwithstanding. They aren't paying much care to concern that fans might confuse the different franchises.
Also I should add, I think it's incredibly ballsy of DC/WB to cast Ezra Miller, who is not only self-identifying as "queer" but also really young. They're obviously trying to diversify the movie version of the JLA in a variety of ways and I like it. It's progressive, and as long as they don't try to beat people over the head with it (by that I mean, I hope they aren't doing it just to say they're doing it), it could be trailblazing in a lot of ways.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 10:22:00 GMT -5
I'm choosing to stay optimistic about this upcoming slate of movies and DC as a movie brand in general... mostly because I'm such a fan of the Affleck casting and (hopefully) future directing. Oh and the Momoa casting... there's a pretty good chance that there are going to be Aquaman bandwagoners coming out of the woodwork en masse five years from now. (Seriously... New 52 Aquaman might be the coolest current DC character.) . Agreed....new 52 Aquaman is awesome if they capture that onscreen? It will be A1.. The entire DC reboot was a washout for me aside from a few things....and Aquaman was one of them. Also I do think the way they are going about things is an attempt to "not be Marvel". Honestly.....a billion $$ movie is a billion $$ movie.....and I reckon Justice League would have been one for sure the buildup way. Heres hoping it still will be. I'm so confused and irritated by the choice to leave Cap Marvel out though.
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Post by King Silva on Oct 17, 2014 11:27:52 GMT -5
Ezra is a great actor so I am happy for him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 12:44:58 GMT -5
Consciously choosing not to make the "universes" connected is a little puzzling, but to be honest, it does clear one gaping plothole in the MCU... namely, how come none of the other Avengers helped Iron Man when the "Mandarin" attacked him? and similar questions. . Its a question I have never brought to the table in IM3,Thor II or Cap II to be honest(although a mention at least of Shield agent Hawkeye would have been nice here).....so it doesn't bother me in the slightest BUT wont future Batman, Aquaman, Cyborg, Flash etc etc etc films suffer from these pedantic and redundant questions too? yeah they will. It still doesn't help me understand why the hell the Shazam franchise is being excluded.....also word seems to be now Suicide Squad is in the DCCU. Harley Quinn is set to be a member......so obviously Joker is out there-which makes Batman's retirement even more unpalatable to me. ah well.....minor nitpick.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 17, 2014 13:53:19 GMT -5
Consciously choosing not to make the "universes" connected is a little puzzling, but to be honest, it does clear one gaping plothole in the MCU... namely, how come none of the other Avengers helped Iron Man when the "Mandarin" attacked him? and similar questions. . Its a question I have never brought to the table in IM3,Thor II or Cap II to be honest(although a mention at least of Shield agent Hawkeye would have been nice here).....so it doesn't bother me in the slightest Bothered the crap out of me. It's like, I know that Tony "gave up" being Iron Man or whatever at the end of the third movie, but if Cap (and Black Widow) are being branded traitors and renegades by SHIELD, why wouldn't Coulson and Hawkeye at the very least not be involved? Basically, beyond Thor (and the Guardians), who lives in another galaxy or whatever, there's no reason why the entire Avengers team wouldn't be called on there. Especially after Fury is allegedly murdered. That sort of thing will always bother me, because in the Marvel movies all of the main heroes are written as pretty benevolent guys (except Stark, but even he has been fighting for a larger cause since he was kidnapped in the first IM). I'm optimistic that they'll figure a way around that in the DCCU, especially assuming that Chris Terrio is writing the primary JLA movies and hopefully any solo Batman movies as well. I think the characterization of the DC heroes, particularly Batman, could go a long way into explaining this sort of thing. I have heard that DC/WB's strategy might revolve around cliffhanger endings, and those could be effective storytelling devices in this regard too. A nice thing, if the Suicide Squad is included in this universe, is that they're pretty much anti-heroes or even closer to full-fledged villains so that part of the "why aren't they helping Batman" sort of thing can be pretty easily explained away.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Oct 17, 2014 14:01:52 GMT -5
So the flash movie will be with a different guy than the TV show? That's stupid
I love dc, but it seems like they want them to flop
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Oct 18, 2014 8:50:16 GMT -5
i was watching the AMC theater channel on face book and they were talking about the movie announcement by WB creating there own DC Cinematic Universe and the 10 films as well as im pretty damn sure that the guy who runs the show said that WB will be dishing out 1 or 2 Billion in marketing alone each year for these movies which to me blows my mind and i am excited if you guys want the video posted lemme know
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 14:15:38 GMT -5
For those who have stuck with Gotham, has it gotten any better?
I want to give it another chance but wanted to see if it has improved at all.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 19, 2014 14:44:56 GMT -5
i was watching the AMC theater channel on face book and they were talking about the movie announcement by WB creating there own DC Cinematic Universe and the 10 films as well as im pretty damn sure that the guy who runs the show said that WB will be dishing out 1 or 2 Billion in marketing alone each year for these movies which to me blows my mind and i am excited if you guys want the video posted lemme know That would be unprecedented... they're releasing just two movies per year... no movie has ever had a marketing budget of $500M-$1B. Either he misspoke or maybe you misheard him. I doubt any movie studios spend $500M in marketing costs per year for their entire lineup of movies.
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Post by el torro on Oct 19, 2014 15:47:37 GMT -5
For those who have stuck with Gotham, has it gotten any better? I want to give it another chance but wanted to see if it has improved at all. Penguin is still the highlight of the show. As a whole, it's still meh.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 19, 2014 16:04:01 GMT -5
I think Gotham might be the worst show on TV right now. I was really rooting for it because I like Mackenzie and Logue, but the show is beyond redemption at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 4:04:03 GMT -5
I think Gotham might be the worst show on TV right now. I was really rooting for it because I like Mackenzie and Logue, but the show is beyond redemption at this point. I like both guys too..... but I agree this show is no good IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 5:30:16 GMT -5
So Jenna Malone's involvement in Batman vs Superman: Dawn Of Justice is drawing down HEAPS of speculation at the moment......and since she has been seen on set with red hair? Its fired up so to speak.
1) Is she the Carrie Kelly version of Robin?
2) Is she Barbara Gordon/Oracle/Batgirl
and if the red hair isn't permanent?
3) Is she Harleen Quinzel aka Harley Quinn
4) Is she Supergirl(referenced in Easter eggs in MOS)
Thoughts?
Personally I would like her as Babs Gordon/Oracle.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Oct 20, 2014 7:11:09 GMT -5
I'm hoping for BABS as well, Carrie/Robin wouldn't be too bad. But my gut says either Batgirl/Barbara or Super Girl.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 9:34:40 GMT -5
I'm hoping for BABS as well, Carrie/Robin wouldn't be too bad. But my gut says either Batgirl/Barbara or Super Girl. Ive no desire to Carrie/Robin whaatsoever.... Robin may be a hard enough sell as it is without going with one of the least known versions of the character
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Oct 22, 2014 16:07:06 GMT -5
i was watching the AMC theater channel on face book and they were talking about the movie announcement by WB creating there own DC Cinematic Universe and the 10 films as well as im pretty damn sure that the guy who runs the show said that WB will be dishing out 1 or 2 Billion in marketing alone each year for these movies which to me blows my mind and i am excited if you guys want the video posted lemme know That would be unprecedented... they're releasing just two movies per year... no movie has ever had a marketing budget of $500M-$1B. Either he misspoke or maybe you misheard him. I doubt any movie studios spend $500M in marketing costs per year for their entire lineup of movies. i was shocked when i heard this and i am not lying and checked again its 2 Billion heres the video for proof , its AMC theaters Youtube channel they post videos on marvel dc and tons of other stuff all the time heres the video he says 2 billion at about 3 minutes and 39 or 40 seconds in but watch the whole video its awesome and i think u guys will enjoy the show
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 22, 2014 16:27:06 GMT -5
That would be unprecedented... they're releasing just two movies per year... no movie has ever had a marketing budget of $500M-$1B. Either he misspoke or maybe you misheard him. I doubt any movie studios spend $500M in marketing costs per year for their entire lineup of movies. i was shocked when i heard this and i am not lying and checked again its 2 Billion heres the video for proof , its AMC theaters Youtube channel they post videos on marvel dc and tons of other stuff all the time heres the video he says 2 billion at about 3 minutes and 39 or 40 seconds in but watch the whole video its awesome and i think u guys will enjoy the show Totally insane! My bad for doubting what you heard. I can't imagine how the movies can even be profitable with $150-$250M production budgets in addition to $500M-$1B in marketing for each of them.
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