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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 15:34:04 GMT -5
Oh I know man. I wasn't defending myself from something I thought you said or anything. I was just making a point that my opinion of the trailer has nothing to do with it being a Bay film. Why do you despise Fincher? He is easily my favorite director and has done two of my favorite movies ever in Fight Club and Se7en. I think he's excellent. He ruined Alien 3. because he dislikes James Cameron he tore down everything Cameron had built and refused to expand on certain elements of the story or even explain some outstanding issues in his movie. The assembly cut of Alien 3 is much better because it makes the best of the the turd that Fincher begat. For years Fox took the blame here.....but Weaver, Dance and others set the record straight. They weren't blameless but neither was Fincher. I like some of his stuff(but still find him chronically overrated like Christopher Nolan). It would be ridiculous for me to say I think hes a hack because some of his stuff is GREAT. Ehhh...yeah. I agree. Alien 3 sucked. I've heard there were a TON of issues in regard to that movie. A lot were Fincher related and some were not. It was his first big film directing role so I tend to cut him some slack since he also more than made up for it with Se7en, Fight Club, Dragon Tattoo, etc. I just pretend Alien 3 & 4 simply don't exist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 16:00:37 GMT -5
the turtles look like Batista I truly believe that Mikey is played by Russell Westbrook of the OKC Thunder; I mean that as a compliment by the way, I mean, if you're gonna play a ninja turtle...you wanna be Mikey
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 3, 2014 16:27:07 GMT -5
He ruined Alien 3. because he dislikes James Cameron he tore down everything Cameron had built and refused to expand on certain elements of the story or even explain some outstanding issues in his movie. The assembly cut of Alien 3 is much better because it makes the best of the the turd that Fincher begat. For years Fox took the blame here.....but Weaver, Dance and others set the record straight. They weren't blameless but neither was Fincher. I like some of his stuff(but still find him chronically overrated like Christopher Nolan). It would be ridiculous for me to say I think hes a hack because some of his stuff is GREAT. Ehhh...yeah. I agree. Alien 3 sucked. I've heard there were a TON of issues in regard to that movie. A lot were Fincher related and some were not. It was his first big film directing role so I tend to cut him some slack since he also more than made up for it with Se7en, Fight Club, Dragon Tattoo, etc. I just pretend Alien 3 & 4 simply don't exist. I love David Fincher too. But I'm not a big James Cameron fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:20:25 GMT -5
Exactly. The Rock ing killed his role. Hilarious. some people just don't find black comedies based on real life incidents to be funny, especially when they involve someone's remains getting caught in chainsaws Fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:25:02 GMT -5
some people just don't find black comedies based on real life incidents to be funny, especially when they involve someone's remains getting caught in chainsaws Fair enough lol I don't mean to be a downer, but I honestly think that's the answer to why I couldn't enjoy it...I kept thinking, "this was true?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:28:00 GMT -5
lol I don't mean to be a downer, but I honestly think that's the answer to why I couldn't enjoy it...I kept thinking, "this was true?" Honestly I was so surprised how well the Rock was comedic acting that I kind of ignored it. It was kind of a whole laughing at how stupid these guys really were type thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 23:13:41 GMT -5
lol I don't mean to be a downer, but I honestly think that's the answer to why I couldn't enjoy it...I kept thinking, "this was true?" Honestly I was so surprised how well the Rock was comedic acting that I kind of ignored it. It was kind of a whole laughing at how stupid these guys really were type thing. I can understand that & I don't judge those that liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 23:51:59 GMT -5
Ehhh...yeah. I agree. Alien 3 sucked. I've heard there were a TON of issues in regard to that movie. A lot were Fincher related and some were not. It was his first big film directing role so I tend to cut him some slack since he also more than made up for it with Se7en, Fight Club, Dragon Tattoo, etc. I just pretend Alien 3 & 4 simply don't exist. I love David Fincher too. But I'm not a big James Cameron fan. Terminator Aliens (directors cut) The Abyss Terminator 2(directors cut) are why Im a fan. Titanic & Avatar are piss though. Aliens is one of THE most important sci fi movies ever IMO. why Cameron steered away from what he was good at Ill never know.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 4, 2014 10:21:04 GMT -5
I love David Fincher too. But I'm not a big James Cameron fan. Terminator Aliens (directors cut) The Abyss Terminator 2(directors cut) are why Im a fan. Titanic & Avatar are piss though. Aliens is one of THE most important sci fi movies ever IMO. why Cameron steered away from what he was good at Ill never know.So he could win Oscars... and also gives us the two highest grossing films of all time and reinvent the way movies are made. I'm pretty sure those "piss" movies account for 6 Oscar nods for Cameron and nearly 5 billion dollars in box office gross.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 11:29:56 GMT -5
I love David Fincher too. But I'm not a big James Cameron fan. Terminator Aliens (directors cut) The Abyss Terminator 2(directors cut) are why Im a fan. Titanic & Avatar are piss though. Aliens is one of THE most important sci fi movies ever IMO. why Cameron steered away from what he was good at Ill never know. I don't see why Titanic or Avatar are that bad Joker. Yes they are criminally over rated but they are both good films. Neither are my favorites but I own both on DVD and I enjoy watching them Terminator 1 is among my all time favorite films (I actually much prefer it to T2, which is saying something because T2 is ing fantastic too).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 13:08:15 GMT -5
Terminator Aliens (directors cut) The Abyss Terminator 2(directors cut) are why Im a fan. Titanic & Avatar are piss though. Aliens is one of THE most important sci fi movies ever IMO. why Cameron steered away from what he was good at Ill never know.So he could win Oscars... and also gives us the two highest grossing films of all time and reinvent the way movies are made. I'm pretty sure those "piss" movies account for 6 Oscar nods for Cameron and nearly 5 billion dollars in box office gross. Must have touched a nerve here I reckon...... I hate the sight of both movies and always have. Wont be changing that opinion for anyone anytime soon..couldn't give one twopenny f*ck what they made at the box office. never did I mention anyplace that people were stupid for liking them or anything-that's just not my scene. Both films are obviously important(never said they weren't) BUT IMO they are piss and Avatar especially disappointed me. Camerons return to sci fi was meant to be something special instead we got Dances with Wolves/The Last Samurai, Pochahontus etc etc etc in space. Every native vs the invaders movie ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 13:09:33 GMT -5
Terminator Aliens (directors cut) The Abyss Terminator 2(directors cut) are why Im a fan. Titanic & Avatar are piss though. Aliens is one of THE most important sci fi movies ever IMO. why Cameron steered away from what he was good at Ill never know. I don't see why Titanic or Avatar are that bad Joker. Yes they are criminally over rated but they are both good films. Neither are my favorites but I own both on DVD and I enjoy watching them Terminator 1 is among my all time favorite films (I actually much prefer it to T2, which is saying something because T2 is ing fantastic too). That's your own thing AF-if you like them fine-I never said there was anything wrong with that. They both bored me to tears.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 7, 2014 8:14:45 GMT -5
So he could win Oscars... and also gives us the two highest grossing films of all time and reinvent the way movies are made. I'm pretty sure those "piss" movies account for 6 Oscar nods for Cameron and nearly 5 billion dollars in box office gross. Must have touched a nerve here I reckon...... I hate the sight of both movies and always have. Wont be changing that opinion for anyone anytime soon..couldn't give one twopenny f*ck what they made at the box office. never did I mention anyplace that people were stupid for liking them or anything-that's just not my scene. Both films are obviously important(never said they weren't) BUT IMO they are piss and Avatar especially disappointed me. Camerons return to sci fi was meant to be something special instead we got Dances with Wolves/The Last Samurai, Pochahontus etc etc etc in space. Every native vs the invaders movie ever. Not a nerve at all. I love Aliens more than both those films as well. The problem being that we gauge film success by either financial or critical acclaim. Those two films had both. While they may not be my favorite movies ever, they crushed it in both departments, more so than any other films ever. So all I can do is tip my cap to him. I think calling them bad films because the story wasn't new or inventive is unfair, particularly with Titanic, which romanticized a historical event. Sci-Fi is a niche genre. Cameron made Avatar feel familiar because that kind of thing has mass appeal. Does it have the fear, nuance or backstory of Aliens, of course not, but that doesn't make it a bad film, far from it imo. At what point do you give credit to a guy for taking a story you've heard a thousand times before and presenting it in a way that gets people to see it by the millions? Because that's what happened, and plenty of people enjoyed the hell out of it, or it wouldn't have done as well as it did. Dances with Wolves and The Last Samurai may have received some of the same critical nods as Avatar but didn't come anywhere close to the financial success. I don't like Forrest Gump, I think it's a ridiculous film about a moron and it bores me to tears. Doesn't mean I think it's a "bad film" in terms of execution or acting but it's just not for me. That's the difference. Cameron went from a B+ Sci-Fi Director with a cult following to James ing Cameron, a guy damn near everyone on the planet knows.
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Post by demetreymo90 on Jul 7, 2014 21:00:01 GMT -5
I cant wait for this to come out. I always loved Ninja Turtles. hell, I even watch the nickelodeon show still True fan.
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Post by demetreymo90 on Jul 7, 2014 21:15:11 GMT -5
I can't stand when people say "BAY RUINED MY CHILDHOOD!!!" . They did the same thing with the Transformers movies, and now they doing it with this. He's not directing the movie. I've been a fan of the turtles since I was 2 years old. I loved the old cartoons, the old movies, the cartoons from the 2000s and TMNT back in 2007. ADORE the new current Nick cartoon. This movie will be above average at best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 12:34:53 GMT -5
I seen the new Turtles trailer before T4 last Saturday and the kids in attendance absolutely loved it. I will have to go see it whether I wanted to or not(I do) because my Nephews are TMNT addicts.
I will say.....the trailer looked A1 on the big screen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 12:53:09 GMT -5
I seen the new Turtles trailer before T4 last Saturday and the kids in attendance absolutely loved it. I will have to go see it whether I wanted to or not(I do) because my Nephews are TMNT addicts. I will say.....the trailer looked A1 on the big screen. I think it's safe to say the movie is going to kick ass at the box office.
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Post by demetreymo90 on Jul 16, 2014 20:02:47 GMT -5
I seen the new Turtles trailer before T4 last Saturday and the kids in attendance absolutely loved it. I will have to go see it whether I wanted to or not(I do) because my Nephews are TMNT addicts. I will say.....the trailer looked A1 on the big screen. I think it's safe to say the movie is going to kick ass at the box office. I hope
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