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Post by HVMMONS on Jun 28, 2014 16:11:54 GMT -5
So, I'm watching No Mercy 2002 as I type this, and I'm very entertained with Smackdown's commentary. Taz and Michael Cole actually talk about the match, moves, storyline backgrounds... all while giving excitement, and being entertaining. There's not one spot/match where I questioned their commentary.
Now that Michael Cole is the voice of the WWE, I'm sure the majority of Wfigs can agree that Michael Cole is unbearable on commentary now. What happened? I listened to Part 1 & 2 of Talk Is Jericho w/ Paul Heyman and Edge yesterday. Paul talked about the Smackdown 6, Raw being the storyline/promo show, and how Smackdown was the pure wrestling show. With that being said, Taz and Cole basically had no barrier on what to say.
With this topic being relevant to the current WWE product, I feel that it never fails for JBL, Cole, and King to get sidetracked and talk about nonsense that has nothing to do with the match going on in the ring. Is being the voice of WWE holding Cole back? Did Taz bring out the best of Cole? Is JBL/King holding him back? Will Cole be exciting again (he was in my opinion)? Discuss.
P.S: Edge & Mysterio v. Angle & Benoit stole the show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 16:26:01 GMT -5
They're getting told what to say and what to talk about. They do as good as they can with what they're given.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jun 28, 2014 16:27:47 GMT -5
They're getting told what to say and what to talk about. They do as good as they can with what they're given. Exactly. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 16:28:23 GMT -5
Still, it seems Cole has just lost his passion. He's so monotone and boring and kills the moment for me.
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Post by HVMMONS on Jun 28, 2014 16:30:34 GMT -5
Right. I understand that they're being told what to say, but so was J.R. Not trying to start another Cole v. J.R debate, but J.R improvised most of his work. Like Willow said above, Cole seems like he's lost his passion. No excitement whatsoever compared to his past work. If he does get excited, it's easy to tell that it's a fake reaction.
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Post by IRS on Jun 28, 2014 16:42:22 GMT -5
He hasn't been the same since he was moved to RAW, imo.
On SD! he did a superb job, and I think he made an entertaining team with Taz - though it probably helped greatly that they had Heyman guiding them.
But after he was paired with Lawler and made to be the new top commentator over JR... he just wasn't the same. I think being live as opposed to changing the commentary in post-production for SD!, like Heyman mentioned doing on Talk Is Jericho, may play a big part in it.
Not to mention Vince likely yelling at him, and telling him what to say.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Jun 28, 2014 16:58:04 GMT -5
Times have changed. There is notably less of an emphasis on wrestling now than there was 12 years ago. And it's possible that Cole himself has lost the passion he once had.
I still think that one of Cole's greatest moments was when he was freaking out at last year's Royal Rumble over CM Punk retaining the WWE Championship. I feel like whenever Cole is supporting a face and they get screwed over, it brings out the fire inside him (Edge cashing in Money in the Bank against The Undertaker, John Cena against Wade Barrett at Hell in a Cell 2010). I wish he was always that energetic.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 16:58:38 GMT -5
I think Cole is miserable on current day commentary. Hell on the leaked SD from May he says
"Do you want me to say that every time, because I've said it a crapload of times tonight." We don't hear Vince's reply, but we do hear Cole's cowed reaction: "OK...yes sir...yes sir...OK, I've got it sir."
This doesnt sound like a man that is just so happy and thrilled
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 17:00:00 GMT -5
Still, it seems Cole has just lost his passion. He's so monotone and boring and kills the moment for me. I'm sure it wears on him being yelled at constantly and having to remember the 100 things he gets told he has to talk about. Cole does fantastic in the spot he's in and managing all the crap that get's thrown at him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 17:05:07 GMT -5
Terrible to terribler
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Post by RybackV1 on Jun 28, 2014 17:09:39 GMT -5
I've always said Michael Cole is like the Cena of commentary. His work regressed as it went on.
At least cole got a heel turn.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2014 17:44:28 GMT -5
I've always said Michael Cole is like the Cena of commentary. His work regressed as it went on. At least cole got a heel turn. Heel Cole in NXT 3 and Redemption > All. |
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Post by Roman Bellic on Jun 28, 2014 18:10:29 GMT -5
Micheal Cole was at his worst during 2010-2011 and anyone would agree
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Post by sitruC on Jun 28, 2014 19:59:10 GMT -5
I think its due to the times, back then stuff like Twitter wasn't used in WWE (idk if it was invented I am not opening Wiki) so there was no things to promote or talk about other than wrestling
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Post by Nash on Jun 29, 2014 0:16:05 GMT -5
As a heel he was un watchable. One of the biggest examples I remember in recent memory of actually changing the channel when he would go on those screaming rants. Good god.
He's better now as a face again. Still not as good as his original SD! days of course. But like others have said I think that more has to do with all the force fed stuff he is told to do on a weekly basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 1:06:20 GMT -5
Cole has sucked since 1997.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 29, 2014 1:15:36 GMT -5
Cole lost his smile.
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Post by k5 on Jun 29, 2014 2:34:54 GMT -5
Cole has sucked since 1997. this. he didn't catch on to move names for an unbearable amount of time. i prefer schiavone over him...and that's scary. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Jun 29, 2014 2:40:49 GMT -5
Cole has sucked since 1997. this. he didn't catch on to move names for an unbearable amount of time. i prefer schiavone over him...and that's scary. He still thinks a cross face is an STF. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 29, 2014 8:49:23 GMT -5
Cole and taz were good together. They were on the b Show so didn't suffer from Vince's rath as much. Now that he is the main man on raw the wwe felt the need to give him a crappy heel run a few years ago and control everything he does.
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