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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Dec 15, 2015 18:01:22 GMT -5
At least we're getting new people /: There's really no "at least" with that... Those choices are beyond any awful expectation I had. Bayonetta looks pretty unqiue, so does Corrin. But why Corrin?!
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Post by Ace Bennett on Dec 15, 2015 20:31:29 GMT -5
I thought the Bayonetta announcement was really cool to be honest, but the FE character followed by the "lol here are all the characters we could've done instead but are mii outfits" part kinda miffed me. I understand that FE characters are probably very easy to make in terms of layouts, but we don't need 47 of them in the game. Geno, Tails, and Knuckles would've all been awesome to see get done over the FE character. I really wanted the Inklings from Splatoon or Shovel Knight instead.
Still gonna buy it though....so I guess doesn't really matter. The dragon stuff is unique and looks fun if I'm being honest and Bayonetta was one character I thought was too unrealistic to join the game so I didn't even consider her an option, but I think she will be a cool addition.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 15, 2015 21:23:36 GMT -5
Honestly, while the inclusion of Bayonetta, Ryu, and Cloud is very cool, the DLC additions for Smash Bros were incredibly underwhelming. Characters like King K. Rool, Geno, Splatoon, Tails and others that could have had really cool, original move sets were forced into Mii Fighter costumes while we got two clones (Roy and Lucas), three characters who should have just been on the original roster (Lucas, Roy, and Mewtwo), three sword fighters (Roy, Cloud, and Corrin), a character NO ONE asked for because it hadn't even be released yet (Corrin).
It's like they just saw that nobody was taking the Smash Ballot seriously (Goku and Shrek) so they just said to hell with it. My dream choice was Banjo-Kazooie, but it's not sour grapes because I knew that was never a likelihood. If you were going to do repeat characters from old games like Mewtwo, why not go back and add Ice Climbers, Squirtle, and Ivysaur so we have new types of characters? Or, if you're adding one clone like Roy, why not go back an add Wolf, too?
Nintendo has never been good with DLC but overall I'd give the Smash DLC like a C/C+. The stages released so far are good and the new ones look fun, but the only DLC characters that make any sense to me are Bayonetta, Cloud, and Ryu.
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Post by King Silva on Dec 15, 2015 22:43:33 GMT -5
I'm content with the choices even if I really wanted Chun-Li..
Females are needed for the game so getting two more can't hurt.
I've never played either of the games they are from but they look great and so far I am big fans of any FE characters.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 15, 2015 22:57:56 GMT -5
Bayonetta is an ok choice. I've never played her game, but I know it's popular.
I'm just shocked that she's THAT popular.
Really disappointed in no Simon Belmont, Ryu Hayabusa, or Banjo. All 3 are 3rd partiers that helped define Nintendo.
Corrin COULD be a cool character, but not at the expense of someone we actually wanted...
Pretty let down by these last two reveals.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 16, 2015 1:20:10 GMT -5
Bayonetta is an ok choice. I've never played her game, but I know it's popular. I'm just shocked that she's THAT popular. Really disappointed in no Simon Belmont, Ryu Hayabusa, or Banjo. All 3 are 3rd partiers that helped define Nintendo. Corrin COULD be a cool character, but not at the expense of someone we actually wanted... Pretty let down by these last two reveals. Yeah, if you would have told me at the beginning, we were only getting seven characters, there's no way I would want Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy involved. Realistically, looking at what they gave us as Mii Fighter Costumes, it should have been: Bayonetta Cloud Corrin OR Roy Geno King K. Rool Knuckles OR Tails Mewtwo In a perfect world (for me) though I'd take out either FE character and go Ice Climbers exclusive to WiiU and Star Wolf exclusive to 3DS.
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 16, 2015 2:05:20 GMT -5
I loved the final presentation and look forward to playing as Corrin and Bayonetta. They look like two of the most unique fighters in the series.
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Post by Weemanv1 on Dec 16, 2015 13:44:56 GMT -5
Love the DLC choices. I always welcome more characters. Let's be real, there are only like five characters on the roster that would actually be missed if they weren't there and the other 40+ are bonuses that I for one am grateful for.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 16, 2015 14:26:32 GMT -5
I love Mewtwo and Lucas. And even Roy is a neat addition. I wish all past fighters made it in. I'd rather Pichu, Squirtle, and Ivysaur over Dr Mario, Toon Link, ZS Samus, Palutena, or Dark Pit.
I don't know how a character qualifies as being "broken" but jeeeezus, Cloud can freaking destroy people. A lot of fun to play as and his level is really awesome too.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Dec 16, 2015 17:47:29 GMT -5
Seems like the Mii costumes were ways of Sakurai saying "Sorry, they'll have to wait for Smash 5 (5mash? Sma5h?)" He knows the demand of Inklings, K. Rool, Geno, etc.
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 17, 2015 1:46:59 GMT -5
Seems like the Mii costumes were ways of Sakurai saying "Sorry, they'll have to wait for Smash 5 (5mash? Sma5h?)" He knows the demand of Inklings, K. Rool, Geno, etc. I thought the same thing. It's a nice gesture.
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Post by King Silva on Dec 17, 2015 6:26:21 GMT -5
Mii costumes are ing stupid imo.. I will try to get Cloud (and some stages I've yet to get for some reason..) today or at least by this weekend.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 18, 2015 0:38:09 GMT -5
Articuno? Seems like an odd choice. Definitely needs Squirtle though if I do say so myself. Also, if we're talking wishlists I'd add Tails, Knuckles, and Geno. Dig the art style though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 3:45:42 GMT -5
Articuno? Seems like an odd choice. Definitely needs Squirtle though if I do say so myself. Also, if we're talking wishlists I'd add Tails, Knuckles, and Geno. Dig the art style though. From my description of Articuno: Articuno is kind of a place holder. It would be more appropriate to put a Pokemon from Gen 7 (or perhaps 8) on here, but unfortunately none of those actually exist yet.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Dec 18, 2015 7:38:28 GMT -5
Well, since it's in the topics, I guess I'll start a little wish list for Smash 5 (I'm really growing on 5mash or Sma5h) King K. Rool, Dixie Kong, Wolf, Snake, Alph (as the idea Sakurai had and he used rock pikmin) Waluigi, Paper Mario, Young Link (retooled, using different masks for different abilities) Pichu, Ice Climbers, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Isaac, Inklings, Dr. Robotnic, Knuckles, and a Ken skin for Ryu. I won't be upset if Ken would be his own character.
I doubt all of these will happen, but I can see some of them happening.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 22, 2015 22:26:01 GMT -5
It's going to be tough to top this one.
Bringing back characters is a must. I think leaving them out is just a step back, that's what worries me about a Smash 5, getting back those 3rd partiers.
Although getting rid of fluff characters would be nice. I don't like having multiple Links, Marios, Samus' (Sami?), etc. it lessens the original characters impact on the roster.
Put Zelda/Shiek and the Sami back together as one character. Don't let the handheld limitations effect the console version.
Level variety. Bring back a lot of old favorites and make new ones from all eras that are more than just platforms floating in front of different backgrounds. I want to feel immersed in that world.
Better one player experience. Get rid of dumb things like that board game and the weak attempt at "classic" from Smash 4. I liked the idea behind the story mode in Brawl, but fighting generic characters in generic worlds is lame. The same idea with cool cutscenes and a story, but fighting enemies from the actual games. Kind of like in Melee.
Like the board game thing, get rid of stuff that takes up space. Those masterpieces can't be small to put in. Just put in videos or something of those games. I'd rather have a game that focuses on having as many characters as possible and an awesome, full STORY mode than a game with 50 different, half assed ways to play.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 7:42:25 GMT -5
It's going to be tough to top this one. Bringing back characters is a must. I think leaving them out is just a step back, that's what worries me about a Smash 5, getting back those 3rd partiers. Although getting rid of fluff characters would be nice. I don't like having multiple Links, Marios, Samus' (Sami?), etc. it lessens the original characters impact on the roster. Put Zelda/Shiek and the Sami back together as one character. Don't let the handheld limitations effect the console version. Level variety. Bring back a lot of old favorites and make new ones from all eras that are more than just platforms floating in front of different backgrounds. I want to feel immersed in that world. Better one player experience. Get rid of dumb things like that board game and the weak attempt at "classic" from Smash 4. I liked the idea behind the story mode in Brawl, but fighting generic characters in generic worlds is lame. The same idea with cool cutscenes and a story, but fighting enemies from the actual games. Kind of like in Melee. Like the board game thing, get rid of stuff that takes up space. Those masterpieces can't be small to put in. Just put in videos or something of those games. I'd rather have a game that focuses on having as many characters as possible and an awesome, full STORY mode than a game with 50 different, half assed ways to play. There are some characters they can cut that wouldn't really be a big deal to lose when you see the big picture. If they can secure Cloud for the next game, Ike isn't really needed to return. Zero Suit Samus, while unique could probably go as Metroid should get a new (different) character that isn't Samus. We don't really need all 3 of Marth, Roy and Lucina next game either. Lucina has become a pretty big deal and is one of few females in the game so really Roy isn't necessary to bring back. The multiple Links and Marios are absolutely fine because they're clones, and it's important for Link to have both a child and adult version of the character. As far as putting Zelda/Shiek back together, it really doesn't matter. It takes the same amount of time and resources to make them as a transformation as it does to separate them. If anything it could be easier to balance 2 separate characters. Transformations should really be a thing of the past, it's the one good thing that came from the technical limitations of the 3DS. Some game modes are admittedly hit or miss. Smash Tour sucked, people only really play Smash for the meat and potatoes of the game; the battles (be it 2v2, 1v1v1v1 or whatever) and the characters. The future of Smash is characters IMO.
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 25, 2015 3:39:02 GMT -5
I prefer Zelda and Sheik as separate characters, and Zero Suit Samus is too good to get rid of. They need to cut Fire Emblem characters most importantly.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Dec 25, 2015 13:38:05 GMT -5
Don't cut anyone please. Also just bought the Mario Maker and Wind Waker's stage
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