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Post by Robert69 on Jul 17, 2014 18:23:49 GMT -5
Heres a video of HHH talking about sting I'm convinced we owe a LOT more to HHH than meets the eye. These individuals he mentions "NEVER" being involved again... Vince historically holds grudges. HHH historically is a wrestling guy, a fan, and he's not a dumb business man, by any means. I really believe a lot of these smoothed over relationships have a lot to do with him, and now with Sting getting involved, it's hard for me to call 'coincidence'. "What's best for business" indeed. What's his biggest misstep so far? Mistico? I can't put that solely on him. The dude should have been sent to development before being thrown on TV...hell, I don't even put that fully on Mistico. For all the flack he catches, HHH may be exactly what we've been waiting for, for the business. That noted -- am I the only one who watched the video on Monday and thought "Man, Sting's working on getting in shape"? -- nowhere near as big as he used to be but -- not fair to expect that at this point. He was looking more fit than he did in TNA.
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Post by Devilkiller on Jul 17, 2014 18:24:07 GMT -5
I want it. Simple as that. I feel it'll be okay. He wasn't terrible in TNA, and with the biggest company in wrestling he may get that fire. Who knows?
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Post by PJ on Jul 17, 2014 18:33:47 GMT -5
What did he say in the interview? It won't play on my phone Basically said that people said Bruno would "never" be in the WWE and Warrior would "never" be in the WWE and people that are saying Sting will "never" be in the WWE, to "never say never" (with a smirk on his face) Thanks. I ended up watching it on my PS3
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 18:38:36 GMT -5
HHH has played a HUGE part in all these reluctant signings. For me there can be no doubt that he deserves the credit here.
He obviously is able to sway these guys by talking to them in a way that Vince either finds impossible to do or is blocked by his colossal ego.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Jul 17, 2014 18:41:47 GMT -5
I'm convinced we owe a LOT more to HHH than meets the eye. These individuals he mentions "NEVER" being involved again... Vince historically holds grudges. HHH historically is a wrestling guy, a fan, and he's not a dumb business man, by any means. I really believe a lot of these smoothed over relationships have a lot to do with him, and now with Sting getting involved, it's hard for me to call 'coincidence'. "What's best for business" indeed. What's his biggest misstep so far? Mistico? I can't put that solely on him. The dude should have been sent to development before being thrown on TV...hell, I don't even put that fully on Mistico. For all the flack he catches, HHH may be exactly what we've been waiting for, for the business. That noted -- am I the only one who watched the video on Monday and thought "Man, Sting's working on getting in shape"? -- nowhere near as big as he used to be but -- not fair to expect that at this point. He was looking more fit than he did in TNA. I can't help but agree with everything you mentioned. With what I highlighted, we've seen "wrestling guys" run promotions, and like HHH I mean former full time talent. More often than not they run them right into the ground. It really appears (at face value, granted) that HHH is taking the all the good from the past and trying to minimize the bad as much as humanly possible. I've said before, a few years ago the WM main event would have started at the 2014 Rumble as Batista vs. Orton and probably stayed that way. No one held a gun to the company's head and said "put Bryan in or we'll shoot." That was a common sense decision that they chose to make based on what the crowd wanted. Now, Punk walks out, the Champ gets injured and then the IC champ gets hurt too and now he has to manage all that commotion, but that's a story for another time.
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Post by El Armbar on Jul 17, 2014 19:54:46 GMT -5
I'm sure that HHH can relate to the wrestlers (like Bruno, Warrior and Sting) in a way that Vince McMahon cannot. I can imagine HHH saying, "I know Vince is an a-hole sometimes, I worked for him too. Ha ha ha ha!"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 21:00:10 GMT -5
Sting is my favorite wrestler of all time since the first time i saw him on Clash of the Champions when i was a kid!! He had his blonde buzzcut and the wild facepaint I think he wasn't wearing shoes in this match but i was sold since! I totally agree with his reasons for not going to the WWE but he should have been joined over 12 years ago when everyone was really good!! Hogan was good, Flair was good, HBK was awesome!! This was the right time for him to join! Helping TNA was cool but its just a watered down version of WCW!! If this was 4 years ago I would want to see him every monday night on Raw but lets face it facts...Sting is over the hill as well as Undertaker (oops Blasphemy lol)!! Brock Lesnar made Taker look his age and as bad as i wanna see the Icon vs the Phenom at Wrestlemania...If they going to do it they need to be in shape and good health and also knock the ring rust off!! Hell if Rickey "the Lizard" Steamboat can come back and have a good match why can't the Stinger!! And also... ppl say sting and hogan are over the hill and they don't wanna see them wrestle but if mick foley boring ass comes back they love it smh!!
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 17, 2014 21:37:11 GMT -5
I'm convinced we owe a LOT more to HHH than meets the eye. These individuals he mentions "NEVER" being involved again... Vince historically holds grudges. HHH historically is a wrestling guy, a fan, and he's not a dumb business man, by any means. I really believe a lot of these smoothed over relationships have a lot to do with him, and now with Sting getting involved, it's hard for me to call 'coincidence'. "What's best for business" indeed. What's his biggest misstep so far? Mistico? I can't put that solely on him. The dude should have been sent to development before being thrown on TV...hell, I don't even put that fully on Mistico. For all the flack he catches, HHH may be exactly what we've been waiting for, for the business. That noted -- am I the only one who watched the video on Monday and thought "Man, Sting's working on getting in shape"? -- nowhere near as big as he used to be but -- not fair to expect that at this point. He was looking more fit than he did in TNA. I can't help but agree with everything you mentioned. With what I highlighted, we've seen "wrestling guys" run promotions, and like HHH I mean former full time talent. More often than not they run them right into the ground. It really appears (at face value, granted) that HHH is taking the all the good from the past and trying to minimize the bad as much as humanly possible. I've said before, a few years ago the WM main event would have started at the 2014 Rumble as Batista vs. Orton and probably stayed that way. No one held a gun to the company's head and said "put Bryan in or we'll shoot." That was a common sense decision that they chose to make based on what the crowd wanted. Now, Punk walks out, the Champ gets injured and then the IC champ gets hurt too and now he has to manage all that commotion, but that's a story for another time. Running ANY business isn't without it's missteps. We need only look at WCW, and you have an entire class' worth of business education on how to build a company from literally nothing -- to the TOP of it's respective product -- and run it right into the ground. It's a crash course in everything to do -- and not to do. Vince may be a jerk, sometimes, but he's not stupid. The man has clearly done something right for nearly 40 years, now. His kids aren't stupid; his son-in-law, is not stupid. That said, they'll make mistakes. Nobody is perfect at what they do. We have to allow for missteps here and there. HHH is more or less running the company, at this point. (Minus the MAJOR decisions, I'm sure, but at this point, he likely even gets a say in those) -- Cena got hurt what? Last year? Punk walks out. The Rock/Batista trade off on part-timing; the decision to end Taker's streak is made; D Bry becomes the biggest thing in wrestling, arguably since Stone Cold/The Rock...and almost IMMEDIATELY suffers blows with his father passing, and then the surgeries. You lose 2 of your top 3 guys. Talk about a tumultuous time in the WWE right now, when you look at the big picture... But I remind people that it's also an AMAZING time. For all the problems they're facing, they have Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt -- Cena (whether you like him, or not. I don't) is still delivering -- Orton is delivering. Sheamus is better now than he's been in a LONG time. Cesaro, Big E, etc, etc....we have top names still performing great for the company -- and STELLAR talent coming up. It's clearly a transitional period for WWE. It may be for a couple years -- but damn. When you look at the past YEAR alone...what they've done to hold the company together, and make it all work. Impressive. And I feel that HHH had a DEFINITE hand in it. Now add to that, that they went out and got the ONE name missing from WWE's mantle. The ONE name that belonds in the upper pantheon of wrestling greats -- who until Monday Night had never "officially" appeared on Live WWE TV...(All you young'uns reading this, have to understand how big a deal that is. Sting is one of the greatest of ALL TIME -- and he's never stepped foot in a WWE ring.) I mean -- if this were Pokemon, dude just caught Zapdos, alright? One of the elites left out there. It's a GRAND time to be a Sting fan; to be a WWE fan -- and HHH is owed a thanks for that, I think.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 17, 2014 22:15:22 GMT -5
It's cool to finally see, but I'm just bummed it didn't happen 10 years ago.
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Post by HVMMONS on Jul 20, 2014 17:56:02 GMT -5
It's cool to finally see, but I'm just bummed it didn't happen 10 years ago. The outcomes would be endless.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jul 20, 2014 18:28:28 GMT -5
Make him the leader of a new faction. Sting and The Court of Crows, if i can steal a name from the Batman comics. Give them some face paint someone like Ambrose would look even crazier with face paint and throw in two other guys. Just a suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 21:28:33 GMT -5
Tomorrow on Raw sandow comes out dressed as sting Sting comes out and beats him up
"I have something important to say to all of the little stingers in the audience, Subscribe to the WWE Network, brother!"
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Post by kingpin005 on Jul 20, 2014 22:39:04 GMT -5
I was live in that arena. The crowd was upset because they thought he would debut. I'm not from Richmond, VA...so I'm cool with saying that it was a garbage crowd. The arena is small and the people are mostly low income. I have nothing against low income folks...but that arena had every type of trash you could imagine in it. Anybody that expected Sting to debut in Richmond, Virginia should take a long walk on a short pier. They will debut Sting in a large city, probably post PPV...not the last monday night show heading into a PPV.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 21, 2014 5:48:07 GMT -5
I was live in that arena. The crowd was upset because they thought he would debut. I'm not from Richmond, VA...so I'm cool with saying that it was a garbage crowd. The arena is small and the people are mostly low income. I have nothing against low income folks...but that arena had every type of trash you could imagine in it. Anybody that expected Sting to debut in Richmond, Virginia should take a long walk on a short pier. They will debut Sting in a large city, probably post PPV...not the last monday night show heading into a PPV. Richmond is one of the East Coast's historical hotbed cities for wrestling. It has hosted PPVs, RAW, Nitro, ECW, and ROH. Sting performed there on a regular basis in his prime, so I'm perplexed as to how you think his impending debut as a senior citizen ready for the HOF is somehow "too big"?
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Post by kingpin005 on Jul 21, 2014 9:52:00 GMT -5
I was live in that arena. The crowd was upset because they thought he would debut. I'm not from Richmond, VA...so I'm cool with saying that it was a garbage crowd. The arena is small and the people are mostly low income. I have nothing against low income folks...but that arena had every type of trash you could imagine in it. Anybody that expected Sting to debut in Richmond, Virginia should take a long walk on a short pier. They will debut Sting in a large city, probably post PPV...not the last monday night show heading into a PPV. Richmond is one of the East Coast's historical hotbed cities for wrestling. It has hosted PPVs, RAW, Nitro, ECW, and ROH. Sting performed there on a regular basis in his prime, so I'm perplexed as to how you think his impending debut as a senior citizen ready for the HOF is somehow "too big"? Richmond has one of the smallest arena's on the east coast. The debut will come from a larger city. This isn't the 80's. Ric Flair himself didn't get the ovation that he used to. What Richmond used to be and what it is today (with regard to wrestling) are very different. Sting is arguably one of the most recognizable names in wrestling history. He is not debuting in an arena that can barely hold 12k people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:22:26 GMT -5
Richmond is one of the East Coast's historical hotbed cities for wrestling. It has hosted PPVs, RAW, Nitro, ECW, and ROH. Sting performed there on a regular basis in his prime, so I'm perplexed as to how you think his impending debut as a senior citizen ready for the HOF is somehow "too big"? Richmond has one of the smallest arena's on the east coast. The debut will come from a larger city. This isn't the 80's. Ric Flair himself didn't get the ovation that he used to. What Richmond used to be and what it is today (with regard to wrestling) are very different. Sting is arguably one of the most recognizable names in wrestling history. He is not debuting in an arena that can barely hold 12k people. Batista returned in Dayton. Place doesn't even hold barely 10k. I don't think they take location into account THAT much
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 21, 2014 23:04:22 GMT -5
Richmond is one of the East Coast's historical hotbed cities for wrestling. It has hosted PPVs, RAW, Nitro, ECW, and ROH. Sting performed there on a regular basis in his prime, so I'm perplexed as to how you think his impending debut as a senior citizen ready for the HOF is somehow "too big"? Richmond has one of the smallest arena's on the east coast. The debut will come from a larger city. This isn't the 80's. Ric Flair himself didn't get the ovation that he used to. What Richmond used to be and what it is today (with regard to wrestling) are very different. Sting is arguably one of the most recognizable names in wrestling history. He is not debuting in an arena that can barely hold 12k people. There's nothing particularly small about a wrestling crowd that size. WrestleMania 7 was held in LA and attended by just over 16,000 people. MITB 2011 (Cena vs. Punk) had a crowd of just over 14,000. Also, Sting's arrival is hardly a game-changing event for WWE. Yes, he *was* huge in his time, but that was long ago. He's there for the short-term nostalgia pop before he calls it quits. If Brock Lesnar, who came back to work main event programs with Cena, HHH, and Undertaker, can return on RAW (4/2/12), then was no reason whatsoever that Sting couldn't have debuted on any PPV.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 23, 2014 16:45:23 GMT -5
A preview of Sting's debut
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