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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 16:17:02 GMT -5
You are straight up nothing but negative and flame baiting. It's best to just ignore his negativity. He's just miserable with the way WWE is and since he doesn't like the way things are or he's convinced himself that WWE runs a certain way and he just wants to see if he can make other people as miserable with the product as he is. I wouldn't let him bring people down with his negativity. I see I'm not the only one to notice this
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jul 20, 2014 16:57:57 GMT -5
We got to remember Cena, Orton, or Batista weren't ready when they originally got their pushes. I do not think they should push him this quickly. Still needs work as stated in another thread. Of the three, I felt Batista was the more ready of the three. Randy Orton lost all of his momteum after his 28-day reign as the World Heavyweight Champion. John Cena's win over JBL at WrestleMania 21 was anti-climatic. The build towards Triple H/Batista leading into WrestleMania 21 was well done. Batista was given the most amount of traction early on compared to the beginning of Cena and Orton's first World Championship reigns. Reigns is nowhere near as bad as some people say that he is. He has a tremendous look, is solid in the ring and on the microphone, and just has "it." Would I rather have seen Seth Rollins or Dean Ambrose be the immediate breakout star of The Shield? Absolutely, but I'm perfectly fine with Reigns getting the main event treatment. Roman Reigns is one man who has been heavily protected since he debuted. The WWE is at a point where they need a mega-star. Reigns is at the right place but the timing just isn't there yet. Speaking as a "Reigns mark", I agree with the OP's post. Roman Reigns is not ready for the World Title, I feel as over as he is, which he is the second most over Shield member next to Ambrose if we're speaking by reactions of the crowd, he hasn't proven himself as a singles wrestler. It'll take time for him to adjust. I feel that his match with Triple H will be the test to see if he'll make it. If the match is not as great, then we'll know he's not ready. I feel by Royal Rumble 2015, he'll be ready to be the main event guy to take the WWE World Title. Right now, it's too early for any of the three, not so much Ambrose because when the Shield was around, he was the one who got the most singles matches while Rollins and Reigns was the tag team, so Ambrose by that standards is the most ready, but it's too early for him as well. Hopefully it works out for Roman Reigns because he gets the crowd going despite not being as good on the mic as I would like for him to be. It is a positive the WWE hasn't put Reigns in the water just yet. Who knows whether he will sink or swim. If he sinks, that isn't a good thing. If he does swim, the WWE should take advantage and let him keep on swimming. The earliest he is getting the title is WM 31 and it isn't like he has no experience, he has been wrestling for 4 years. The Rock was only in the business for three years prior to becoming the WWF Champion. Reigns is the future. He won't win the title tomorrow but he will win the title eventually. It's not a matter of if but when. I am quoting you on this because I agree with you all the way. Reigns is really good but he can still use some improvement before being the champion. Rollins and Ambrose have progressed a lot more than Reigns has since the end of the shield. IMO You have to remember both Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose have been in the industry far longer than Reigns. That is why both Rollins and Ambrose have made a ton of progress from their FCW days. He's gonna get the strap eventually, might as well just accept it. Good point. I bet some people are going to moan and bitch when Reigns becomes the WWE Champion. The same applied to Cena back in '04. Some people knew he was bound to become champion and when it happened, people began hating Cena when the WWE shoved him down everybody's throat. I His mic work needs work. He can hold his own in the ring, with his comic-book style of action and ridiculous mannerisms. I'll give him that - he gets the crowd excited. But I think this is way too soon for him to win the title. Let the guy get a few upper mid-card and main event level feuds first. I'd say he should feud with Kane for a few months, then feud with Orton for a few months, perhaps Rollins for a few months, and THEN finally face Triple H at WrestleMania, where Triple H will put Reigns over. Reigns does NOT need the WWE Championship just yet. He's just getting started. WWE needs him or another young talent to break out in the worst way right now. It isn't the company's fault that Daniel Bryan's health issues came at such an inconvenient time, but it is their fault that they have gone right back to the same tired, overexposed wrestlers and storylines. The longer WWE stays rooted in the past, the lower RAW's ratings will go. I swear, if there were more eyeballs on the WWE right now, they wouldn't be in the financial woes their in right now. At a time when the WWE is desperate for WWE Network subscribers, the WWE should really re-evaluate what the fans see on the tele right now. The WWE goes back to status-quo when Cena is champion. I've voiced this on here before, but I think he'll be ready by WM31. No doubt about that. They're gonna make him a megastar by WM time. He'll most likely win the Rumble, probably even beating his own record of eliminations. The man is going to run over everything in his path and I HOPE that Brock is the champion then because a Reigns/Brock match, if booked right, could be absolutely killer. No one can say that hearing his music hit and seeing him get face to face with Brock wouldn't be amazing. That crowd would explode. If it was me booking Reigns, I would have him come in as the first entrant and eliminate 13-15 guys and win. Those two conditions would make Reigns look extremely strong leading into WrestleMania. It's tough because you want to strike while the iron is hot, but Roman Reigns isn't ready. I say to wait purely because the WWE doesn't want to put the belt on him and have people give him the John Cena like backlash that hit after he won his first title in 2005 when people realized that he wasn't very good in the ring. Good thing the iron hasn't been plugged in just yet. Give it time, put Reigns into solid programs and build him correctly. Now that you mentioned Cena in 2005, the WWE should have had Cena and Batista as co-winners. Leading into WrestleMania 21, Batista was booked far better than Cena. I will say this, Roman Reigns is at the right place but timing is not on his side for now.
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Post by rustyy on Jul 21, 2014 0:04:50 GMT -5
You don't have to agree with me, but look at all the people I like, jobbers or people that will never have a future in the company. They are some of the most talented people in the entire company but they strip away every single thing that gets them over and then job them out. Why would I like the way that's run? It just seems like if you have more than just ring skills now you have no future. Bray Wyatt is the exception here and even then his promos are starting to be more repetitive each and every week. Without starting an argument, there's a difference between criticizing the product, which is OK in my book, and just being negative about something. I'll give you an example. I used to really criticize TNA for their product until I saw that they were improving a little bit. Even when I criticized them, I was always hopeful that they would improve and get their act together. What you're doing is just speculating and assuming that something is going one way when you don't even know if it's really gonna happen. You assume that Ambrose is gonna job soon, you assume that KENTA is not gonna be used correctly. You're criticizing things in a way that makes you sound like a know-it-all prick. Just because most of your favorites was used a certain way, doesn't mean all of your favorites are gonna suffer the same fate. If you're gonna be negative about something without it happening, what's the point of looking forward to seeing Ambrose on TV? Me personally, I look forward to what Ambrose is being used, and if he starts being used as a lower card or job guy, then there's a point to complain, but to complain that Ambrose will become a jobber without knowning? That's where the negativity is wrong and it gets to people as well. I'm not positive because WWE misuse every single person I like and have for a long time. Wyatt, lost all momentum to Cena. Barrett, see the previous, Sandow, previous yet again. Noticing a trend? Ambrose hasn't even won a match since the Shield break up, and if he has it was against some nobody, and he's lost every match since. KENTA I just don't have faith in because of how previous Japanese talent is used, on top of being an indy guy, low English speaking, he will struggle unless they find him a good manager. Lately I haven't looked forward to Ambrose on TV because every time he is curbstomped or beat down, while Reigns and Rollins receive nothing but good. I will try to be more positive though. It's best to just ignore his negativity. He's just miserable with the way WWE is and since he doesn't like the way things are or he's convinced himself that WWE runs a certain way and he just wants to see if he can make other people as miserable with the product as he is. I wouldn't let him bring people down with his negativity. I see I'm not the only one to notice this If I upset you so much, than do exactly as you said you would and ignore me.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 21, 2014 1:18:25 GMT -5
I think they did tonight exactly what they should have. He looked strong and made people believe he could win the belt, even though he didn't ultimately win. Matches like this will help him a lot more in the long run than an actual title reign would right now.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jul 21, 2014 1:52:36 GMT -5
They need to hold off on him, because he sucks. At pretty much everything. Also, lol at "mega-star"... this dud has no star quality whatsoever. If, like Reigns, you have no discernible talent or skills, you at least need a personality to become a "mega-star" - and this drone hasn't got one.
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Post by rustyy on Jul 21, 2014 2:24:31 GMT -5
They need to hold off on him, because he sucks. At pretty much everything. Also, lol at "mega-star"... this dud has no star quality whatsoever. If, like Reigns, you have no discernible talent or skills, you at least need a personality to become a "mega-star" - and this drone hasn't got one. But he's got the look, so that's a talent right? Lol. I agree with everything you said.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 7:22:00 GMT -5
Do we really need a thread bashing Reigns every week after Raw? Is this gonna continue until he gets the title?
Punk never coming back thread? check. Reigns isn't ready/we hate Reigns thread? check
and people complain about Vince and the WWE being repetitive!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 10:02:50 GMT -5
Do we really need a thread bashing Reigns every week after Raw? Is this gonna continue until he gets the title? Punk never coming back thread? check. Reigns isn't ready/we hate Reigns thread? check and people complain about Vince and the WWE being repetitive!! Lol You hit the nail on the head
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