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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 17, 2014 22:59:03 GMT -5
I enjoyed the hell out of the entire under card for the most part. Jericho vs Wyatt got a little slow for me, and Reigns vs Orton did a little bit too. I loved the Superman Punch into the RKO and the powerslam from Orton. Wyatt kind of sucked the life out of the audience by hitting Sister Abigail on the outside before taking it back into the ring. Which I guess was fine since he's a heel but the crowd was flat for the actual finish because of that spot from what I could tell.
I was cruising at about a 9/10 enjoyment level until the main event. I thought Cena vs Brock was absolutely terrible though. I think there are multiple other ways they could have had Brock dominate Cena without making it so boring. Brock mostly just stood around, and when he wasn't standing around he was throwing German Suplexes. They produced a masterpiece in 2012, but this was total sh*t imo. The outcome is fine, as I didn't have a horse in the race so to speak, but I wasn't entertained by the journey they took to get to that point. That to me was easily one of the worst SummerSlam main events of all time. Probably goes back to Diesel vs Mabel since I've seen anything that bad.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 17, 2014 22:59:11 GMT -5
I don't mind Reigns either.. But I do mind Reigns taking the title from Brock Lesnar at a Wrestlemania. 1. Him beating Brock Lesnar. 2. At the main event of Wrestlemania. I'm all for him ONE DAY being a big time player, and eventual face of WWE.. But not all within a year.. Like it would literally not even be a full year of singles action, then he'll beat Brock Lesnar in the main event of WM31 for the Undisputed Title? Meh.. I'm not OK with that. I concur. I don't dislike Reigns in the slightest, but at this point, him going over Brock ing Lesnar in the main event of WrestleMania for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship is far too forced. The audience may turn on Reigns by then, too. It just seems like a plan that is just waiting to blow up in their faces. Tonights audience was a bad sign for Reigns. I've been supporting him since the split but tonights crowd wasn't buying into him. Its the first time I've noticed a crowd not really behind him though. That damn Orton chin lock wasn't doing anyone any favors though.
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Post by Chip on Aug 17, 2014 23:00:04 GMT -5
100 pages, must have been a fun thread.....
Cesaro/RVD was fun. Surprised RVD won but both guys have been losing so much it was bound to happen.
Glad Ziggler is IC champ, maybe now he can legiti......ah forget it, at least they are doing something with the guy
Rusev sucks. Everything about him sucks, that was a decent match (that Swagger CARRIED on his back) and a crap ending, I'm so done with Rusev winning
Rollins/Ambrose was MOTN for sure, so much fun, so much awesome. Those 2 are the best thing going
Bray/Jericho was OK, nothing special, but nice to see Bray get a big win....he needed that. Jericho's thigh though! ouch!
Reigns & Orton was what I expected. Reigns is superman, WE GET IT. They are gonna push him no matter what and you will like it, so there's nothing else to do about it. I'd be more happy if it wasn't so forced and nauseating.
Lesnar/Cena was interesting to say the least. Didn't expect 50 german suplexes and some punches. Nice ass kicking, but a boring wrestling match to close out your 2nd biggest show of the year. They definitely made me want to see RAW tomorrow to see where this is going, because the corner they have backed themselves into is a small one now.
Overall what I watched of the show was very good. Everything delivered from an entertainment standpoint and the match quality was great. They definitely did things right. A lot of great wrestling and very little bullcrap.
See you bums in the RAW thread tomm.
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 17, 2014 23:00:28 GMT -5
Just wanna say this should have been Swagger's theme.
An edited version obviously maybe America Hell Yeah!
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Post by IRS on Aug 17, 2014 23:00:52 GMT -5
Roman is totally getting the win against Lesnar at Mania. All this is to build Lesnar up as unbeatable. That is a sickening thought. It really is. They're making Reigns into the new Cena WAYYYYYYYY too fast. Him going over Lesnar at WM31 for the belt would just be a terrible mistake. Honestly, Lesnar vs. Bryan would be such a better matchup - assuming Bryan is recovered by then.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 17, 2014 23:09:34 GMT -5
100 pages, must have been a fun thread..... Cesaro/RVD was fun. Surprised RVD won but both guys have been losing so much it was bound to happen. Glad Ziggler is IC champ, maybe now he can legiti......ah forget it, at least they are doing something with the guy Rusev sucks. Everything about him sucks, that was a decent match (that Swagger CARRIED on his back) and a crap ending, I'm so done with Rusev winning Rollins/Ambrose was MOTN for sure, so much fun, so much awesome. Those 2 are the best thing going Bray/Jericho was OK, nothing special, but nice to see Bray get a big win....he needed that. Jericho's thigh though! ouch! Reigns & Orton was what I expected. Reigns is superman, WE GET IT. They are gonna push him no matter what and you will like it, so there's nothing else to do about it. I'd be more happy if it wasn't so forced and nauseating. Lesnar/Cena was interesting to say the least. Didn't expect 50 german suplexes and some punches. Nice ass kicking, but a boring wrestling match to close out your 2nd biggest show of the year. They definitely made me want to see RAW tomorrow to see where this is going, because the corner they have backed themselves into is a small one now. Overall what I watched of the show was very good. Everything delivered from an entertainment standpoint and the match quality was great. They definitely did things right. A lot of great wrestling and very little bullcrap. See you bums in the RAW thread tomm. I'm not going to lie for a minute there I thought Orton was going over with that RKO and I was perfectly fine with it. Then the match went how I expected.
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Post by Yayo on Aug 17, 2014 23:14:22 GMT -5
Well, I loved the entire PPV honestly. The two most promoted matches (Steph/Brie and Cena/Lesnar) underperformed but I honestly got what I expected out of both of them. Lesnar/Cena was boring and had me totally thinking that Cena would prevail in the end. So damn happy that wasn't the case. Brock mocking the Undertaker was also great
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Post by Word™ on Aug 17, 2014 23:15:01 GMT -5
That is a sickening thought. It really is. They're making Reigns into the new Cena WAYYYYYYYY too fast. Him going over Lesnar at WM31 for the belt would just be a terrible mistake. Honestly, Lesnar vs. Bryan would be such a better matchup - assuming Bryan is recovered by then. I said this a little bit earlier, but back in April/May I told my friends "They're gonna build towards Bryan vs. Brock at Summerslam".. Then Bryan got injured, and then we found out it was a really, really, really serious injury. Then obviously the Summer played out with Cena/Brock happening, when it would have been Brock/Bryan.. I would adore Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar, I want to see that match SO bad. It has '5 star match' written all over it.. D-Bry would literally bring out the very best in Brock, and D-Bry would have been able to take the punishment Brock throws around. But after the neck injury, the surgery, being behind on recovery time and what not.. I don't think Brock vs. Bryan is possible anymore or even smart for Bryan, especially if he wants to continue a healthy career. That's a very sad thought, honestly.
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 17, 2014 23:15:03 GMT -5
PPV was good. Couldnt believe a Lumberjack match was the MOTN but it was. Goes to show you all you need are the right guys or feud and things can work. Lesnar/Cena was exactly what I thought it was going to be. They hyped the sh*t out of the match and Cena barely got in any offense, he was supposed to do whatever it takes to win but he could barely land a punch. Also, I cant believe they would even risk their main stars health for what we saw tonight, FOR Brock Lesnar. The guy who left on them after he was given everything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 23:15:35 GMT -5
The show was great in my opinion...
Dolph vs. Miz was good, the finishing sequence was understandably the best part of the match. Nothing great but pretty good.
Paige vs. AJ was good for a Divas match, the spot of AJ jumping to the outside with a clothesline was awesome, nothing too memorable but a decent match.
Rusev vs. Swagger was fantastic, people in the thread weren't liking the outcome but the whole match was very well done. Very well written too.
Rollins vs. Ambrose was very interesting, I would've loved if there was a table spot or something like that to the chaos but besides that it was great.
Bray vs. Jericho was incredibly lacklustre, I can't believe anyone would put this as their match of the night because it was just nothing special.
Stephanie vs. Brie was good, Stephanie was very impressive and looked to be in very good in ring shape, I expected Nikki to turn on Brie during the whole match, but it was still a very good heel turn.
Reigns vs. Orton was what it was, it was well booked and the finishing sequence was good. Nothing else to say about the match.
Brock vs. Cena was incredible. It wasn't an all out competitive brawl, it was a brilliantly booked attack, not really to be considered a match because it was 99% of Brock's offense. Crazy good stuff but I can see why some people aren't pleased with it. I personally enjoyed it.
Overall the show was great, my second favourite show of the year behind WrestleMania. The matches were very good, the booking was fantastic, it was all great.
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Post by ICW on Aug 17, 2014 23:19:15 GMT -5
I enjoyed the hell out of the entire under card for the most part. Jericho vs Wyatt got a little slow for me, and Reigns vs Orton did a little bit too. I loved the Superman Punch into the RKO and the powerslam from Orton. Wyatt kind of sucked the life out of the audience by hitting Sister Abigail on the outside before taking it back into the ring. Which I guess was fine since he's a heel but the crowd was flat for the actual finish because of that spot from what I could tell. I was cruising at about a 9/10 enjoyment level until the main event. I thought Cena vs Brock was absolutely terrible though. I think there are multiple other ways they could have had Brock dominate Cena without making it so boring. Brock mostly just stood around, and when he wasn't standing around he was throwing German Suplexes. They produced a masterpiece in 2012, but this was total sh*t imo. The outcome is fine, as I didn't have a horse in the race so to speak, but I wasn't entertained by the journey they took to get to that point. That to me was easily one of the worst SummerSlam main events of all time. Probably goes back to Diesel vs Mabel since I've seen anything that bad. Wow, that's an interesting take. I could see where you're coming from although I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think the key to your entire statement was what I highlighted in bold font. I wanted Brock Lesnar to win. Badly. I am so sick of John Cena "over coming the odds" and I'm sick of him stacking up these miraculous victories. But more than that...I'm sick of WWE shoving him down our throats. It's not that they shove him down our throats by telling us he's "the face of the company." That's a very obvious point and one I wouldn't dispute. It's their insistence on ranking him up there with Hogan and Austin, their insistence that Cena is as special as they were/are. During the height of his career, Hulk Hogan legitimately changed this industry. The same can be said for Stone Cold. Can we honestly say John Cena has legitimately changed the industry for the better? I think that's debatable. Hogan was the face of the Golden Era, an era that was absolutely must-watch television. He's The King of Sports Entertainment (in my humble opinion). What he did for this industry during the prime of his career can never be forgotten or disputed. Stone Cold was the face of the Attitude Era, an era that was absolutely must-watch television. He was the face of edginess and he made people want to watch wrestling again. Cena? Nope, I just don't think anything he's ever done compares to Hogan and Austin. So, getting back to my larger overall point...tonight was truly something special for fans that are absolutely sick of John Cena. It's a night for celebration. Brock Lesnar is the type of figure a lot of fans have been craving for a long, long time. Nearly a decade. To see him do what he did to Cena, the poster child for what's been wrong with wrestling for the past decade...it was pretty ing awesome. I could see how you or anyone else that didn't have a "horse in this race" feel. As someone who did, however, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 17, 2014 23:23:44 GMT -5
you would think so but this is wwe and John Cena we are talking about. What better to have them shove the idea than Jon Cena. Is greatest of all time than have him be the one that beat the one in 21 and 1.and summer slam going off the air with Cole say OMG Cena did it. He is the greatest WWE super star of all time. you were wrong
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Post by Kanenite on Aug 17, 2014 23:29:13 GMT -5
Am I the only one who laughed when Sin Cara was randomly all by himself in the crowd and got beat up by Rollins?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 17, 2014 23:35:21 GMT -5
I liked Summerslam, although last year's was much better IMO. I liked the Intercontinental Title match, and I love that Ziggler won the title, I know me and my cousin marked out when he won. Paige vs. AJ was much better than Battleground, but I also noticed it was too short of a match and maybe their match from Battleground may have cause them to shorten the match here. It still didn't sell me on being 100% a fan of Paige as I was in her days in development. I honestly would not have made her win the title in this match. I liked the Flag match. I really wanted Swagger to win the match, but oh well. I guess Rusev could feud with Sheamus since I don't see this feud lasting. Ambrose vs. Rollins was an awesome match. For a lumberjack match, it was ing entertaining. I remember laughing at all the comments people made when Ambrose announced the Lumberjack match and I knew from the start they would find a way to make it entertaining. I even saw that spot with Ambrose and Rollins landing on everyone happening. Rollins winning made sense to continue the feud. Bray vs. Jericho was, again to me, better than the match at Battleground. Brie vs. Stephanie was a much better match than I expected. I totally saw Nikki Bella turning. At least this time, I can actually tell them apart in the feud, lol. Orton vs. Reigns, it was what I expected. I was a little surprised that the crowd did not react the way I had hoped. I feel the crowd turning on Reigns sooner than later and that's sad cause I really wanted Roman Reigns' push to work. I liked the powerslam and RKO spots Orton did. I honestly would have had Reigns lose to Orton to continue their feud, cause I feel they could have more than just one PPV match and IMO for that to happen, Orton kind of needed the win more, but I'm happy Reigns won the match. The main event was, well it was basically Lesnar raping Cena with german suplexes. I liked that Lesnar dominated Cena, but I was not a big fan of the finish. It felt also anti-climatic to be, but I think it's mostly because I was expecting the match to go down like the match with Taker at Mania where it would have taken three F5's to win. Lesnar winning should not have been a shock to anyone, everyone should have seen that coming. Looking forward to tomorrow.
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Post by Jamal on Aug 18, 2014 0:17:45 GMT -5
I'm usually annoyed by the bitching, but I thought tonight was mostly meh. Glad to see Lesnar win but the match was the worst one these two have had. I would have honestly preferred Lesnar win after the first F-5.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:19:40 GMT -5
Good show.
Steph looked amazing and Lesnar killed Cena.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Aug 18, 2014 0:28:38 GMT -5
Im a fan of the Oval IC title, but that white strap looks good on ziggs
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Post by Word™ on Aug 18, 2014 0:55:48 GMT -5
PPV was good. Couldnt believe a Lumberjack match was the MOTN but it was. Goes to show you all you need are the right guys or feud and things can work. Lesnar/Cena was exactly what I thought it was going to be. They hyped the sh*t out of the match and Cena barely got in any offense, he was supposed to do whatever it takes to win but he could barely land a punch. Also, I cant believe they would even risk their main stars health for what we saw tonight, FOR Brock Lesnar. The guy who left on them after he was given everything. That can honestly be said for alot of the best and most legendary wrestlers throughout the history of the WWE. I'm usually annoyed by the bitching, but I thought tonight was mostly meh. Glad to see Lesnar win but the match was the worst one these two have had. I would have honestly preferred Lesnar win after the first F-5. I legitimately thought that was going to happen for a split second..
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Post by El Armbar on Aug 18, 2014 1:58:13 GMT -5
I enjoyed the hell out of the entire under card for the most part. Jericho vs Wyatt got a little slow for me, and Reigns vs Orton did a little bit too. I loved the Superman Punch into the RKO and the powerslam from Orton. Wyatt kind of sucked the life out of the audience by hitting Sister Abigail on the outside before taking it back into the ring. Which I guess was fine since he's a heel but the crowd was flat for the actual finish because of that spot from what I could tell. I was cruising at about a 9/10 enjoyment level until the main event. I thought Cena vs Brock was absolutely terrible though. I think there are multiple other ways they could have had Brock dominate Cena without making it so boring. Brock mostly just stood around, and when he wasn't standing around he was throwing German Suplexes. They produced a masterpiece in 2012, but this was total sh*t imo. The outcome is fine, as I didn't have a horse in the race so to speak, but I wasn't entertained by the journey they took to get to that point. That to me was easily one of the worst SummerSlam main events of all time. Probably goes back to Diesel vs Mabel since I've seen anything that bad. Wow, that's an interesting take. I could see where you're coming from although I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think the key to your entire statement was what I highlighted in bold font. I wanted Brock Lesnar to win. Badly. I am so sick of John Cena "over coming the odds" and I'm sick of him stacking up these miraculous victories. But more than that...I'm sick of WWE shoving him down our throats. It's not that they shove him down our throats by telling us he's "the face of the company." That's a very obvious point and one I wouldn't dispute. It's their insistence on ranking him up there with Hogan and Austin, their insistence that Cena is as special as they were/are. During the height of his career, Hulk Hogan legitimately changed this industry. The same can be said for Stone Cold. Can we honestly say John Cena has legitimately changed the industry for the better? I think that's debatable. Hogan was the face of the Golden Era, an era that was absolutely must-watch television. He's The King of Sports Entertainment (in my humble opinion). What he did for this industry during the prime of his career can never be forgotten or disputed. Stone Cold was the face of the Attitude Era, an era that was absolutely must-watch television. He was the face of edginess and he made people want to watch wrestling again. Cena? Nope, I just don't think anything he's ever done compares to Hogan and Austin. So, getting back to my larger overall point...tonight was truly something special for fans that are absolutely sick of John Cena. It's a night for celebration. Brock Lesnar is the type of figure a lot of fans have been craving for a long, long time. Nearly a decade. To see him do what he did to Cena, the poster child for what's been wrong with wrestling for the past decade...it was pretty ing awesome. I could see how you or anyone else that didn't have a "horse in this race" feel. As someone who did, however, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment. I don't think Cena is greater than Austin or Hogan. But he doesn't get enough credit for the growth the WWE has seen during his run. I think Cena has carried the WWE during his 10 year run. Hogan & Austin revolutionized the business but they also had legendary rivals (ie. Macho Man, Andre, The Rock, HBK, Bret Hart, Undertaker) Cena greatest rivals - Edge, Orton, CM Punk - for the most part are a notch just below the legends Hogan & Austin faced. Cena faced the Miz at Wrestlemania for pete's sake. I don't think you can blame Cena for WWE's failure to create new main event stars. Speaking as a Cena fan, I thought tonight's main event told a great story. The WWE Universe might be too tired of Cena to feel sympathetic for him. But don't kid yourself, this sets Cena up for a great comeback down the line. Hopefully they keep him off TV for awhile while Brock destroys the roster. And if Roman Reigns doesn't pan out by Mania or D-Bry is still injured, the WWE will probably go with Cena again.
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Post by Jack on Aug 18, 2014 2:32:01 GMT -5
Amazing match quality tonight, really enjoyed this.
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