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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 1, 2014 9:19:46 GMT -5
I was always curious why whenever Austin/Taker always got together for a match of some sort why Austin never took a bump for the Last Ride or the Tombstone after their match at IYH 15. It seems crazy that for all their matches Austin never took anything worse than a chokeslam.
Summerslam 98
Breakdown 98
Rock Bottom 98
Over The Edge 99
Fully Loaded 99
Armageddon 00
Backlash 01
Judgment Day 01
Backlash 02
I always figured it was because of Austin's neck problems following Summerslam 97 that he didn't think his body could hold up to moves like that? Does anyone know this for sure? I've always been curious.
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Post by sean™ on Aug 1, 2014 9:21:40 GMT -5
Honestly, I always thought Undertaker's chokeslam from the outside of the ring in, at Summerslam 98, was worse than any tombstone he could have given.
That being said, I'm still upset at Austin cheating on said occasion. CLEAR LOW BLOW, REF!
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 1, 2014 9:24:45 GMT -5
Honestly, I always thought Undertaker's chokeslam from the outside of the ring in, at Summerslam 99, was worse than any tombstone he could have given. That being said, I'm still upset at Austin cheating on said occasion. CLEAR LOW BLOW, REF! Yea I remember as a kid I loved that match but it hasnt held up well for me over time. Lots of things bout that match just don't make sense, ill spare it given Austin blacked out mid match though. I just remember thinking when I got older why Undertaker would give Austin respect after he gave him a low blow to win, as well as why he wasnt disqualified. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 1, 2014 9:59:15 GMT -5
I never noticed this but that's true. Maybe it did have to do with his neck. I can't remember Austin taking a Tombstone from Kane either and I don't remember him ever taking a powerbomb.
Weird because he took like 20 Germans from Chris Benoit in their Smackdown match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:09:53 GMT -5
I can easily say that Austin wasn't going to take any sort of piledriver from anyone after the Owen botch.
As for powerbombs, probably because the impact on his neck would've been very painful for him.. Especially if Taker would've given one WM 25 style
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 1, 2014 10:12:29 GMT -5
Their matches were usually pretty weak anyway.
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 1, 2014 10:16:18 GMT -5
I never noticed this but that's true. Maybe it did have to do with his neck. I can't remember Austin taking a Tombstone from Kane either and I don't remember him ever taking a powerbomb. Weird because he took like 20 Germans from Chris Benoit in their Smackdown match. Yea thats true I forgot about Kane. I remember watching Rock/Austin from Mania 19 hearing Rock hit those loud Rock Bottoms, right after Austin was hospitalized. I kept thinking no way Austin is gonna walk out of this ring. I thought that would have done his neck in for sure. Those were some of the loudest, ring crashing Rock Bottoms I think I have ever heard. |
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Post by sean™ on Aug 1, 2014 10:31:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I always thought Undertaker's chokeslam from the outside of the ring in, at Summerslam 99, was worse than any tombstone he could have given. That being said, I'm still upset at Austin cheating on said occasion. CLEAR LOW BLOW, REF! Yea I remember as a kid I loved that match but it hasnt held up well for me over time. Lots of things bout that match just don't make sense, ill spare it given Austin blacked out mid match though. I just remember thinking when I got older why Undertaker would give Austin respect after he gave him a low blow to win, as well as why he wasnt disqualified. If anyone's getting my respect, it's the giant man who hit a leg drop off of the top rope onto the announcers table. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:44:41 GMT -5
Yea I remember as a kid I loved that match but it hasnt held up well for me over time. Lots of things bout that match just don't make sense, ill spare it given Austin blacked out mid match though. I just remember thinking when I got older why Undertaker would give Austin respect after he gave him a low blow to win, as well as why he wasnt disqualified. If anyone's getting my respect, it's the giant man who hit a leg drop off of the top rope onto the announcers table. You, sir, respect the right man! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 14:53:25 GMT -5
The neck.
I don't think he took a powerbomb of piledriver period after Summerslam 1997 (except for a proper Tombstone from Kane/Taker).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 15:07:06 GMT -5
this was addressed on Paul Bearers shoot....Tombstones weren't off the table, but UT wasn't comfortable because he didn't want to be the guy that crippled Austin if anything went wrong.
Bearer said UT LOVED working with Austin because of his energy and the fact he sold his blows like he had been hit with a ball & chain every time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 15:09:38 GMT -5
A Tombstone done properly is literally one of the safest bumps you can take in the ring. In the hands of Taker & Kane he was fine.
However, I sure as hell don't see Austin taking any Powerbombs from ANYBODY.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 18:28:54 GMT -5
A Tombstone done properly is literally one of the safest bumps you can take in the ring. In the hands of Taker & Kane he was fine. However, I sure as hell don't see Austin taking any Powerbombs from ANYBODY. Very true on both accounts. But Taker didn't want to do tombstones? Then that was the end of that. |
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 1, 2014 21:49:43 GMT -5
It is incredibly sad that none of the singles encounters Steve Austin & The Undertaker were anything about 2 1/2 stars. Their match at SummerSlam 98 started out good but when Austin got his lights knocked out of him, the quality of the match suffered big time. I remember Austin was being asked about his encounters with 'Taker and from the way Austin's voice was, I can really sense he had a match worthy of 3 1/2 to 4 stars. Those two just had bad luck in the ring and the chemistry just wasn't right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 8:28:19 GMT -5
It's interesting how 2 of the biggest stars in WWE history have amazing legacies and matches away from one another but crap the bed together.
It goes to show how important the chemistry between the two guys/girls is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 16:06:52 GMT -5
It's interesting how 2 of the biggest stars in WWE history have amazing legacies and matches away from one another but crap the bed together. It goes to show how important the chemistry between the two guys/girls is. Very true |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 19:46:25 GMT -5
Good point never realized that
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Aug 3, 2014 20:05:06 GMT -5
Austin versus Undertaker never lived up to the hype. Certain styles don't mesh very well and sometimes similar styles clash.
On paper, HBK versus Mr. Perfect sounds like a DREAM match, but the only memorable thing about their Summerslam match was how unremarkable it was.
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Post by sean™ on Aug 4, 2014 14:21:04 GMT -5
I won't disagree that Undertaker/Austin never had the best chemistry. But at least two of their matches (the Summerslam 98 and Over the Edge 99 ones) are two of my favorites.
I suppose I enjoy the story being told at the time more so than the match.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 5, 2014 15:22:40 GMT -5
Austin versus Undertaker never lived up to the hype. Certain styles don't mesh very well and sometimes similar styles clash. On paper, HBK versus Mr. Perfect sounds like a DREAM match, but the only memorable thing about their Summerslam match was how unremarkable it was. Amen to the former and the latter. None of the matches Steve Austin had with The Undertaker are worthy of being 3-star affairs. |
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