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Post by sitruC on Aug 18, 2014 20:31:35 GMT -5
Yup, I too would rather Lesnar be generic scared heel #626399393 and run from any fight and not be an entertaining monster like he is...
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Aug 18, 2014 20:34:22 GMT -5
If Cena won, people would complain. Lesnar won, people still complain. Literally the only thing that could ever happen on a wrestling show that wouldn't result in people complaining is if a nuclear bomb went off at the same time and destroyed all life on the planet. Exactly. I wanted to stand and applaud that event last night, loved it. If you don't like it, don't watch.
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Post by The Yes Man on Aug 18, 2014 20:41:11 GMT -5
The most satisfying result would be Brock passing out cold to a Daniel Bryan submission.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 20:49:09 GMT -5
Yup, I too would rather Lesnar be generic scared heel #626399393 and run from any fight and not be an entertaining monster like he is... way to put words in my mouth unless... try this Dominant victories by heels result in an unsatisfying product
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 18, 2014 21:04:52 GMT -5
Again, a lot of people don't find last night to be unsatisfying but you do. So I guess it's an unsatisfying product.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:18:35 GMT -5
The most satisfying result would be Brock passing out cold to a Daniel Bryan submission. I'd rather he tap. But there's no clue when Bryan will be back
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 21:19:25 GMT -5
Again, a lot of people don't find last night to be unsatisfying but you do. So I guess it's an unsatisfying product. this is a long run, overall sort of thing I'm talking about
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Post by The Yes Man on Aug 18, 2014 21:25:11 GMT -5
The most satisfying result would be Brock passing out cold to a Daniel Bryan submission. I'd rather he tap. But there's no clue when Bryan will be back I'm pretty sure he'll be back by January-ish. Maybe sooner, considering he MIGHT not need the second surgery.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 22:07:27 GMT -5
now see, if they can come up with something like that for a heel in the Rollins vs Ambrose match , I want it for a face
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Post by Falconsinclair on Aug 18, 2014 23:51:42 GMT -5
If Cena won, people would complain. Lesnar won, people still complain. Literally the only thing that could ever happen on a wrestling show that wouldn't result in people complaining is if a nuclear bomb went off at the same time and destroyed all life on the planet. Sadly if that happened, most peopled would probably still think it was work. As for Brock Lesnar being the champion, I for one am excited to see where it goes. For once in almost 30 years we have been given something different at the top of the card, and maybe, just maybe it is time for the WWE to slow down a little. Brock can hold the title from now until Mania and only wrestle at Night of Champions, Survivor Series, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber and I would be happy. Maybe NOT having the title around to focus everything around for a bit will force the creative team to start thinking outside of the box, and we can once again get some "Casual fans" back on board.
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Post by IRS on Aug 19, 2014 1:16:25 GMT -5
So, in your opinion, a heel should NEVER have a dominant victory over a face? Ever?
I have to say, I'm really glad I'm not watching a product that you're booking. Seriously, who the hell wants to watch a wrestling show where every single heel is a p-ssy?
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 19, 2014 1:23:28 GMT -5
The money is in the chase. The babyface chasing the bad guy, overcoming the odds, always makes for the best ending. You're essentially complaining because the hero hasn't defeated the evil monster half way through the book.
Bad guys have to come out on top to make the good guys look credible in victory.
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Post by ryan93 on Aug 19, 2014 2:27:31 GMT -5
If Lesnar didn't win big or if he lost it would have ruined the Undertaker's legacy. Lesnar is more dominant than ever and beating Taker in a close one and then him doing this to Cena proves that the Undertaker put up the best fight and could lead to Undertaker coming back for Brock and the Title before calling it quits at WM 31.
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Post by weaseltv on Aug 19, 2014 2:51:22 GMT -5
When I think about it, the Rock and Cena went toe to toe back and forth. The Rock did not dominate Cena like Lesnar. When the Undertaker went against Lesnar, Lesnar beat him up. It wasn't anything like the beating Cena took. At least you can say that Taker coudn't take the beating Cena took because... he couldn't take those type of bumps.... Cena landed on the back of his head a few times... When HHH went against Lesnar.... HHH lost twice and won once.... HHH did not get dominated like Cena... CM Punk did not get the beating Cena did... The Big Show... well.. he got the beating Cena did...
The point is, it's difficult in justifying a real opponent for Lesnar now. in singles matches just this year Cena beat Cesaro, Wyatt, Rollins, Kane, Harper, Rowan, Orton, Sandow. If Lesnar just ran over Cena... how can any of those guys do any better?
Reigns and Bryan are the only 2 top guys at the moment that don't have those losses. The only other person I see now out there that can face him... is HHH .... and I wouldn't put it past WWE to make that happen....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 4:27:08 GMT -5
The money is in the chase. The babyface chasing the bad guy, overcoming the odds, always makes for the best ending. You're essentially complaining because the hero hasn't defeated the evil monster half way through the book. Bad guys have to come out on top to make the good guys look credible in victory. NWA, AWA, and WCW booked with that philosophy. WWE destroyed them
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Aug 19, 2014 4:40:27 GMT -5
The butt hurt is so severe from the Cena lovers, it's bringing me so much joy!! You have the younger ones with the blatant rage, then you have the clever older ones who attack the match & the part time champion thing as way to get their seethe out. its marvelous.
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Post by sitruC on Aug 19, 2014 6:13:08 GMT -5
Yup, I too would rather Lesnar be generic scared heel #626399393 and run from any fight and not be an entertaining monster like he is... way to put words in my mouth unless... try this Dominant victories by heels result in an unsatisfying product Or how about try this It was satisfying to most people and you're wrong
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Post by wyleecyotee on Aug 19, 2014 7:01:42 GMT -5
People love the bad guy winning, that's why empire strikes back is most peoples favourite Star Wars film.
Bad guys need credibility and Brock has it, with how he took out cena it opens so many questions of who and how Brock will finally lose the title and to who.
Also most people don't like cena as a wrestler so they enjoyed him getting suplexed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 7:20:15 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar as champion after leaving Cena laying in blood, piss and vomit?
I'm satisfied.
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Post by havoc7179 on Aug 19, 2014 8:22:25 GMT -5
People who are glad Lesnar won have obviously forgotten The Rock's horrible reign last year. If he is full time then great but if not I don't want another part time champion. Back before the Attitude era (and this may have been a WCW thing), the Champion only headline PPVs. Once in a while, he'd square off in the ring, but my recollection was that he'd only wrestle the main event of PPVs. He had to defend the belt once ever thirty days, and that was it. Didn't even have to wrestle. Only when the Monday Night Wars came about did I see titles always on the line.
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