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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 19, 2014 19:11:01 GMT -5
If they square off in a Hell in a Cell it will be the first time in many years that a HIAC match will truly mean something.
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Post by HHH316 on Aug 19, 2014 20:18:40 GMT -5
I think a HIAC match would be amazing. A simple cage match wouldn't do this justice. If Brock isn't going to wrestle at every PPV, this storyline has been so good, why not let it headline?
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Post by wrestlingfan1000 on Aug 19, 2014 20:21:38 GMT -5
Loved the way they wrote that, still giving him that maniac character is just awesome makes you want imagine that and I actually loved it.
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Post by El Armbar on Aug 19, 2014 20:35:26 GMT -5
Hopefully the Ambrose v. Rollins feud lays the ground work for future main event feuds between the two. Sorta how Austin v. Rock and Triple H v. Rock eventually developed from IC to World Title rivalries. Roman Reigns would be in the mix too because of their history. Maybe a triple threat for the WWE WHC at Wrestlemania 33.
Ambrose & Rollins have executed a simple, basic story line to perfection. Their match at SS has to be the greatest lumber jack match of all-time. Ambrose is going to come back hot as heck. Who knows what they do with Rollins in the meantime.
Dean Ambrose might just be this year's Daniel Bryan, I just don't see Wrestlemania ending with a guy wearing a wife beater and jeans holding up the championship. But that's a easy fix.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 19, 2014 21:31:30 GMT -5
This essentially opens the door for Rollins to cash-in for the title. Meaning when Ambrose returns, we could be looking at this feud on another level. I agree last night was the test to see if they could carry the rating. The match certainly delivered so I guess we'll see if the casual audience gave it a chance and stayed engaged.
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Post by Jaz on Aug 20, 2014 0:09:55 GMT -5
That's awesome. I'm fine with Ambrose leaving for awhile, because it sounds like we're gonna get Ambrose/Rollins in a Hell in a Cell match in October. I can already picture how great it will be when Dean returns.
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Post by rustyy on Aug 20, 2014 0:12:20 GMT -5
I love it!! WWE is absolutely booking Ambrose perfectly. As I said last night, anyone complaining needs to have their standards reevaluated. My standards involve winning matches, which he won't do. Just like he'll always be a failure to me if he never wins the WWE title. So he can be booked perfectly like a bitch which is what is happening now, but it will never show what he can do. Story was cool but when he gets back he'll win a blow off match at some PPV no one will remember against Rollins and then not have anything else to do while Rollins becomes WWE champion. Funny how that works.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 4:40:16 GMT -5
Awesome way to write him off. But my interest in Raw is likely to go down with two of my favourites leaving. Oh well, there's still some good talent on the shows but Ambrose really added to it. A few months ago to me Ambrose was an overhyped internet darling who bored me to tears but ever since breaking away from The Shield and getting his lunatic gimmick he has made me a fan of his. One of the highlights of todays product for me. I feel the exact same way. Since the start of the Shield he never really overly impressed me in terms of character, I guess that's because he didn't have a lot of time to really define himself, but now he is one of my favourites of every wekk.
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Post by RV F'N D on Aug 20, 2014 6:22:55 GMT -5
I love this. Ambrose could cut some good video promos during his time "off", and really add fuel to the fire. Perfect world...Rollins cashes in later this year to win the WWE title, Ambrose wins Rumble '15, and those 2 put on the greatest match in Wrestlemania history where Dean emerges victorious as WWE Champion. In between time they just feud & wrestle a lot. what? too much? Lol that sounds perfect to me. This really is the best thing going, and I hope they realize what they have here. Ambrose could be the man if they let him.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 20, 2014 6:36:14 GMT -5
Awesome way to write him off. But my interest in Raw is likely to go down with two of my favourites leaving. Oh well, there's still some good talent on the shows but Ambrose really added to it. A few months ago to me Ambrose was an overhyped internet darling who bored me to tears but ever since breaking away from The Shield and getting his lunatic gimmick he has made me a fan of his. One of the highlights of todays product for me. I feel the exact same way. Since the start of the Shield he never really overly impressed me in terms of character, I guess that's because he didn't have a lot of time to really define himself, but now he is one of my favourites of every wekk. I hate to say I told you so but god dammit we all told you so before he was even on the roster. From day one that he walked out of CZW I said he'd be the hottest thing in the company and a he needed was that microphone. The guy just oozes charisma and you can't help but be drawn in by his character. The man behind the character is just as interesting I might add.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 6:49:24 GMT -5
Awesome way to write him off. But my interest in Raw is likely to go down with two of my favourites leaving. Oh well, there's still some good talent on the shows but Ambrose really added to it. I feel the exact same way. Since the start of the Shield he never really overly impressed me in terms of character, I guess that's because he didn't have a lot of time to really define himself, but now he is one of my favourites of every wekk. I hate to say I told you so but god dammit we all told you so before he was even on the roster. From day one that he walked out of CZW I said he'd be the hottest thing in the company and a he needed was that microphone. The guy just oozes charisma and you can't help but be drawn in by his character. The man behind the character is just as interesting I might add. I've seen some a bit of his CZW stuff despite not ever being into the Deathmatch scene, and from that I gather he has improved a load since coming to the WWE, it wasn't bad but it was obvious he hadn't come into his own in the ring until coming to the WWE. He definitely had the same charisma in CZW but I still think his WWE stuff thus far is better, and has the potential to be really great.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 20, 2014 6:57:19 GMT -5
I hate to say I told you so but god dammit we all told you so before he was even on the roster. From day one that he walked out of CZW I said he'd be the hottest thing in the company and a he needed was that microphone. The guy just oozes charisma and you can't help but be drawn in by his character. The man behind the character is just as interesting I might add. I've seen some a bit of his CZW stuff despite not ever being into the Deathmatch scene, and from that I gather he has improved a load since coming to the WWE, it wasn't bad but it was obvious he hadn't come into his own in the ring until coming to the WWE. He definitely had the same charisma in CZW but I still think his WWE stuff thus far is better, and has the potential to be really great. Ignore his death match stuff. Its good for deathmatches but that's not saying much. Although he is one of the few deathmatch guys thats ever incorperated storytelling into his deatchmatches. Check out his work against Sami Callihan and Robert Anthony. He's just as good on the mic in 2009 as he is now. Ill admit that he is getting better in the ring. He's always been good in the ring but mostly in the aspect of telling a story and making everyone look great kind of way. Now he is still doing that but going out of his way to make his work stand out.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 20, 2014 8:33:37 GMT -5
This essentially opens the door for Rollins to cash-in for the title. Meaning when Ambrose returns, we could be looking at this feud on another level. I agree last night was the test to see if they could carry the rating. The match certainly delivered so I guess we'll see if the casual audience gave it a chance and stayed engaged. Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I would be interested to see the quarterly breakdowns. Seems likely people may just not have given them a chance. I know we've seen drop-offs in the 3rd hour like that before. So I wonder how the individual segment did versus the totality of the hour.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 20, 2014 8:45:22 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I would be interested to see the quarterly breakdowns. Seems likely people may just not have given them a chance. I know we've seen drop-offs in the 3rd hour like that before. So I wonder how the individual segment did versus the totality of the hour. I'd guess that their segments did the best ratings of that hour. But generally, ratings tend not to do well for recently-elevated guys. The majority of fans tend to wait a little before jumping on the bandwagon for new main eventers. Jericho in 2008 as world champion did really poorly in his ratings, Punk in 2011 was an utter disaster when it came to ratings, his quarters were embarrassing. The ratings tend to only perk up for the really big stars like Cena, Hogan, Rock, Brock, Bryan, Punk from 2012/13, HHH etc... And even then, not always much. But I think Ambrose and Rollins (and Reigns, for that matter) would need significantly more time as top guys before we could really expect them to pull in viewers for main events.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 20, 2014 8:48:25 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I would be interested to see the quarterly breakdowns. Seems likely people may just not have given them a chance. I know we've seen drop-offs in the 3rd hour like that before. So I wonder how the individual segment did versus the totality of the hour. I'd guess that their segments did the best ratings of that hour. But generally, ratings tend not to do well for recently-elevated guys. The majority of fans tend to wait a little before jumping on the bandwagon for new main eventers. Jericho in 2008 as world champion did really poorly in his ratings, Punk in 2011 was an utter disaster when it came to ratings, his quarters were embarrassing. The ratings tend to only perk up for the really big stars like Cena, Hogan, Rock, Brock, Bryan, Punk from 2012/13, HHH etc... And even then, not always much. But I think Ambrose and Rollins (and Reigns, for that matter) would need significantly more time as top guys before we could really expect them to pull in viewers for main events. Yeah, you ultimately have to commit to those guys longterm for them to draw and the stock is still rising on The Shield members as solo competitors.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 20, 2014 9:19:25 GMT -5
I love it!! WWE is absolutely booking Ambrose perfectly. As I said last night, anyone complaining needs to have their standards reevaluated. My standards involve winning matches, which he won't do. Just like he'll always be a failure to me if he never wins the WWE title. So he can be booked perfectly like a bitch which is what is happening now, but it will never show what he can do. Story was cool but when he gets back he'll win a blow off match at some PPV no one will remember against Rollins and then not have anything else to do while Rollins becomes WWE champion. Funny how that works. I think it's great that others can see into the future, but I can not. Nor do I pretend to. And I certainly don't complain about things that haven't even happened yet. I watch what is going on at this moment, and I'm loving it. Seems like about 98% of this place is. Guess you're in the 2%. Ambrose has yet to lose to Rollins clean. So I have no idea how anyone can claim he's being booked like a "bitch". It took TWO people to contain him (Rollins + Kane = 2). And even though Ambrose was outnumbered, they still had trouble stopping him! If he was out there losing clean to Sandow, Slater, or Fandango you could say he's being booked poorly. But he was in the main event on RAW and only "injured" so he can film a movie. He looked pretty damn legit to me. But then again... I can't see into the future.
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Post by T R W on Aug 20, 2014 10:18:48 GMT -5
I was wondering, who the hell keeps a big stack of cinder blocks by a wrestling ring, and why?
Still awesome segment though.
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Post by rustyy on Aug 20, 2014 13:04:27 GMT -5
My standards involve winning matches, which he won't do. Just like he'll always be a failure to me if he never wins the WWE title. So he can be booked perfectly like a bitch which is what is happening now, but it will never show what he can do. Story was cool but when he gets back he'll win a blow off match at some PPV no one will remember against Rollins and then not have anything else to do while Rollins becomes WWE champion. Funny how that works. I think it's great that others can see into the future, but I can not. Nor do I pretend to. And I certainly don't complain about things that haven't even happened yet. I watch what is going on at this moment, and I'm loving it. Seems like about 98% of this place is. Guess you're in the 2%. Ambrose has yet to lose to Rollins clean. So I have no idea how anyone can claim he's being booked like a "bitch". It took TWO people to contain him (Rollins + Kane = 2). And even though Ambrose was outnumbered, they still had trouble stopping him! If he was out there losing clean to Sandow, Slater, or Fandango you could say he's being booked poorly. But he was in the main event on RAW and only "injured" so he can film a movie. He looked pretty damn legit to me. But then again... I can't see into the future. I don't need to see in the future. It's obvious they don't want him to be the guy so unless fans riot like they did for Bryan then he will have a shallow career in the non existent mid card and then be released. While roman and Seth fight for the title for the next 10 years. I mean, look at Sandow, best mic worker in the E and he's so far down the card he may as well not have a job. Inb4 but he gets tv time like that matters
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Post by marino13 on Aug 20, 2014 13:44:27 GMT -5
I think it's great that others can see into the future, but I can not. Nor do I pretend to. And I certainly don't complain about things that haven't even happened yet. I watch what is going on at this moment, and I'm loving it. Seems like about 98% of this place is. Guess you're in the 2%. Ambrose has yet to lose to Rollins clean. So I have no idea how anyone can claim he's being booked like a "bitch". It took TWO people to contain him (Rollins + Kane = 2). And even though Ambrose was outnumbered, they still had trouble stopping him! If he was out there losing clean to Sandow, Slater, or Fandango you could say he's being booked poorly. But he was in the main event on RAW and only "injured" so he can film a movie. He looked pretty damn legit to me. But then again... I can't see into the future. I don't need to see in the future. It's obvious they don't want him to be the guy so unless fans riot like they did for Bryan then he will have a shallow career in the non existent mid card and then be released. While roman and Seth fight for the title for the next 10 years. I mean, look at Sandow, best mic worker in the E and he's so far down the card he may as well not have a job. Inb4 but he gets tv time like that matters I don't see how "it's obvious" they don't want him to be the guy. But that may be because I don't watch wrestling so I can act like a cynical know it all who can predict the future. And I certainly wouldn't pretend to know what WWE decision makers are thinking. I'm watching it for today, not months or years down the road. If WWE wasn't protecting Ambrose they would have had him lose to Rollins clean and then move on. His whole character is based on being the guy you can't keep down no matter how hard you hit him. And having his face put through cinder-blocks by TWO people makes him look a hell of a lot tougher than had he just taken two months off without any explanation. Sandow... best mic worker? Um.. okay.
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Post by rustyy on Aug 20, 2014 14:48:05 GMT -5
I don't need to see in the future. It's obvious they don't want him to be the guy so unless fans riot like they did for Bryan then he will have a shallow career in the non existent mid card and then be released. While roman and Seth fight for the title for the next 10 years. I mean, look at Sandow, best mic worker in the E and he's so far down the card he may as well not have a job. Inb4 but he gets tv time like that matters I don't see how "it's obvious" they don't want him to be the guy. But that may be because I don't watch wrestling so I can act like a cynical know it all who can predict the future. And I certainly wouldn't pretend to know what WWE decision makers are thinking. I'm watching it for today, not months or years down the road. If WWE wasn't protecting Ambrose they would have had him lose to Rollins clean and then move on. His whole character is based on being the guy you can't keep down no matter how hard you hit him. And having his face put through cinder-blocks by TWO people makes him look a hell of a lot tougher than had he just taken two months off without any explanation. Sandow... best mic worker? Um.. okay. What is he going to do after Rollins? Just be a crazy guy in the lower card, I don't watch to be a cynic but it just so happens every talented guy gets held down unless your just a yes man. And yes he is, by far. Guy can do it all. No one else could pull off these god awful gimmicks and still make it good. His delivery is the best wwe has had in a long time
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