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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 20, 2014 12:11:02 GMT -5
....then why not have Lesnar vs. Cena for free the following night on Raw??
Clearly the WWE Network is only $9.99, and they could have anything on the PPV now and people would watch it, because it's so cheap. So if they want to pop a rating for Raw, why not give the fans the title rematch for free??
Remember when Austin vs. Kane and Austin vs. Taker happened on the Raw's after KOTR 98 and 99?? Two big title matches, and the ratings were amazing for it.
I feel that usually the night after a PPV, all we see are the same matches that we saw at the PPV except for the WWE Title match.
WWE is only hurting themselves. If they want the ratings to go up for Raw, they gotta put on PPV like matches for free like they did back in 1998. And this isn't a "oh I crave the Attitude Era" post, it's just a post on why not give Raw something to talk about??
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Post by McBlake on Aug 20, 2014 12:14:08 GMT -5
I never caught Raw, but I'm assuming storyline wise Cent wouldn't be in any state for another big match 24 hours after that. Outside of kayfabe, doubt Brock would work a match on free TV anyway.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 20, 2014 12:22:15 GMT -5
They'd be giving away a sure-fire PPV draw to pop a rating for one week. (See: The Death of WCW)
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 20, 2014 12:28:40 GMT -5
They'd be giving away a sure-fire PPV draw to pop a rating for one week. (See: The Death of WCW) And with ratings meaning less than ever this won't happen. I do like your thought process because I remember being stoked for Austin/Taker and Austin/Kane on Raw. The WWE Title hasn't changed hands on Raw since Miz won it in 2011. And the World Title changed hands last year when Ziggler cashed in.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 20, 2014 13:22:55 GMT -5
If they have a hard time drawing ratings once the NFL season is over, THEN I think they should panic and do something like this.
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Post by rustyy on Aug 20, 2014 13:31:34 GMT -5
Then you piss off everyone that bought your ppv, then you lose subs.
Plus like that other dude said, death of wcw
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 20, 2014 13:47:57 GMT -5
From 1997 - 2004 we saw a lot of WWE or World Title matches and rematches take place on Raw. And the ratings then were much better then they are now, because they were putting on matches that were PPV like matches that fans would want to see.
If at the beginning of Raw it was announced that Cena gets his rematch tonight with Lesnar, then fans would tune in and check it out. We haven't had a Raw like that in so long. No wonder fans miss the Attitude Era so much. Matches like that happened more frequently and the ratings were higher then... shocking!
And to say that this would be like the Death of WCW then you are all wrong. WCW died because AOL didn't want wrestling on TNT or TBS anymore. Get your facts straight!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 14:00:32 GMT -5
are you kidding? Massive slap in the face to everyone who bought the ppv.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 20, 2014 14:05:31 GMT -5
are you kidding? Massive slap in the face to everyone who bought the ppv. Did you not watch Raw back in 98 or 99 or even 2000?? They would do this every so often, have a big title rematch the following night and it would draw huge ratings. And if everyone is paying $9.99 now a month for the PPV and all the other content they receive, then this is the best chance for them to start having higher profile title matches for free on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 14:08:11 GMT -5
are you kidding? Massive slap in the face to everyone who bought the ppv. Did you not watch Raw back in 98 or 99 or even 2000?? They would do this every so often, have a big title rematch the following night and it would draw huge ratings. And if everyone is paying $9.99 now a month for the PPV and all the other content they receive, then this is the best chance for them to start having higher profile title matches for free on Raw. no, I din't watch RAW back then, so I wouldn't know.
and I bought the ppv since im in the UK, not everyone has the network yet.
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 20, 2014 14:09:26 GMT -5
From 1997 - 2004 we saw a lot of WWE or World Title matches and rematches take place on Raw. And the ratings then were much better then they are now, because they were putting on matches that were PPV like matches that fans would want to see. If at the beginning of Raw it was announced that Cena gets his rematch tonight with Lesnar, then fans would tune in and check it out. We haven't had a Raw like that in so long. No wonder fans miss the Attitude Era so much. Matches like that happened more frequently and the ratings were higher then... shocking! And to say that this would be like the Death of WCW then you are all wrong. WCW died because AOL didn't want wrestling on TNT or TBS anymore. Get your facts straight!
WCW died because it was a money pit. Trust me, if the company had been raking in tens or hundreds of millions of dollars per year, AOL/Time Warner would have built the networks around WCW instead of abandoning ship when it had taken on (way, WAY) too much water.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 14:12:28 GMT -5
I agree it would help KEEP viewers but I don't think it would really add any.
The same people who purchased/watched Summerslam are the same people who watched Raw the following night.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 20, 2014 14:13:22 GMT -5
TNA has done this numerous times and every time they do it people complain regardless of them getting a good main event.
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 20, 2014 14:28:16 GMT -5
Doesnt matter if thats how things were done in 98/99, its not how its done today, back then WWE was in a ratings war with WCW, today ratings more or less dont mean anything until WWE needs to look for a new home from Universal networks, which is doubtful that will happen given their good relationship.
Also since the emergence of the network, do you think WWE would give away their main money match on TV instead of trying to get people to subscribe to the network and watch it? I mean they only promote the network 100 times a week on TV. There's no way they'd give away the rematch on TV when they could get you to buy the network and watch it there.
I agree that a title change every once in a while would be nice on TV, even if it was the US, IC or Tag Titles but I also enjoy the fact we're given longer title reigns to make the titles more legit. I personally would be surprised if we ever saw the WWE World Title change hands on Raw again unless it was a MITB cash in.
On top of that who exactly is left to give us the quality main event Raw you speak of? We clearly get Orton/Cena every other week and its a snoozefest and other than that, Brock is a part timer, Taker is basically gone, Triple H doesn't wrestle much anymore, and you're never gonna see someone like Rock wrestle on Raw again. I would like to see the WWE World Title defended more on Raw but definitely not change hands.
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Post by Dan on Aug 20, 2014 14:37:31 GMT -5
The whole reason they had Heyman come out with Lesnar to stand there for ten minutes straight talking about how badly Lesnar destroyed Cena, was so that people who didn't already have the Network or order Summerslam would possibly go and do so now so that they could watch it. By having the same Match for free, why would they want to go and invest $9.99 when they are getting it for free?
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Post by adzy on Aug 20, 2014 15:17:26 GMT -5
I do think we should get the occasional title match on RAW, but if u put on more main events like we saw this week there wouldn't be a need for it. Less adverts/self promotion and more wrestling/storyline progression and the ratings should be good. I'm from the UK so I never watch live.....but would my recording of the show affect ratings in USA?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 15:23:19 GMT -5
Want the ratings to go up here you go
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Post by WMDman on Aug 20, 2014 15:42:56 GMT -5
They'd be giving away a sure-fire PPV draw to pop a rating for one week. (See: The Death of WCW) Exactly -WMD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 16:07:41 GMT -5
Want the ratings to go up here you go Bring back Nidia?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 20, 2014 16:22:49 GMT -5
Doesnt matter if thats how things were done in 98/99, its not how its done today, back then WWE was in a ratings war with WCW, today ratings more or less dont mean anything until WWE needs to look for a new home from Universal networks, which is doubtful that will happen given their good relationship. Also since the emergence of the network, do you think WWE would give away their main money match on TV instead of trying to get people to subscribe to the network and watch it? I mean they only promote the network 100 times a week on TV. There's no way they'd give away the rematch on TV when they could get you to buy the network and watch it there. I agree that a title change every once in a while would be nice on TV, even if it was the US, IC or Tag Titles but I also enjoy the fact we're given longer title reigns to make the titles more legit. I personally would be surprised if we ever saw the WWE World Title change hands on Raw again unless it was a MITB cash in. On top of that who exactly is left to give us the quality main event Raw you speak of? We clearly get Orton/Cena every other week and its a snoozefest and other than that, Brock is a part timer, Taker is basically gone, Triple H doesn't wrestle much anymore, and you're never gonna see someone like Rock wrestle on Raw again. I would like to see the WWE World Title defended more on Raw but definitely not change hands. All great points. There aren't many LEGIT main eventers. As you said, Orton and Cena but that's played out to death. CM Punk is gone, Daniel Bryan is injured and the others are part timers. The only main eventers that the WWE has built well lately are Ambrose, Reigns and Rollins, and Wyatt to a lesser extent. This was one of the bigger main events they could put on.
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